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I can't believe it. I give you this; https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status...0665791488
from Dennis Dodd, a man who was the source for the Big East demise and you guys quote Yodda. 03-banghead

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(05-03-2016 01:06 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Cincinnati is the only no brainer that I see. They're in a talent rich state with a good TV market and proximate to Worst Virginia for a travel pairing. If they wanted to further that they could take UCONN. Not a terrible recruiting location as it opens the northeast a bit and certainly a TV move that makes sense. Also they shore up their basketball a lot. But, you could argue the same for Memphis with maybe better football upside. If they go for a Florida move I don't see them taking both UCF and USF. It ain't really a traditional rivalry and they're so close they might be argued to encroach or overlap TV makets. If they go to 12 and skip Florida then it's between Memphis and UCONN as I see Cinci as a lock. If they go to 14, congratulations to UCF or USF plus UCONN and Memphis.

IF that happens then the AAC should go for FAU and ODU while wait listing Charlotte and FIU. All conjecture at this point and the B12 don't have to hurry anyway.

What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly
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(05-03-2016 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly

Maybe I've missed it but, where's USF's "Full Court Press"?
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Some days it feels like the AAC is just a body ESPN keeps alive to harvest the organs.
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(05-03-2016 05:12 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 05:07 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 05:03 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 04:52 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 04:15 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  @TuxedoYoda's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda/status/72...88352?s=09

I mean that's practically from the commissioner's mouth.

Who the hell is tuxedo yoda and where is his source saying ucf is in??
His source? Uhhh... The force. ^^^this guy 01-wingedeagle

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(05-03-2016 07:12 PM)mascotswinchampionships Wrote:  Some days it feels like the AAC is just a body ESPN keeps alive to harvest the organs.

Good one. Better than being cremated I guess.
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(05-03-2016 06:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly

Maybe I've missed it but, where's USF's "Full Court Press"?

There were several articles mentioning it and several recent articles in the Times about Harland's overatures.
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(05-03-2016 07:37 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly

Maybe I've missed it but, where's USF's "Full Court Press"?

There were several articles mentioning it and several recent articles in the Times about Harland's overatures.

Of Course Harlan talks to them... He worked directly with 4 of the ADs and Kansas's AD is USF former Assistant AD..... and ever team in this conference is putting on a full court press. Every single one.

Simple truth is, neither one of us have a chance if they only go to 12. So far nothing has ruled out 14 or 16... the first piece of information simply said that 8 game and 12 teams was best route to playoff.
Navigate marketing will be the one to tell them where the most money comes from and supposedly Texas has said they are willing to compromise on the network. If Navigate says that 16 teams and a network will bring in the most money, then well, several of us will have a chance.

I tend to think it will be cinci and BYU.... Ive got a few reasons to think that. If they go to 14, Id put a months salary on USF being invited... and it helps that it was Navigate that did the research on who to add to the Big East.
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(05-03-2016 09:24 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 07:37 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly

Maybe I've missed it but, where's USF's "Full Court Press"?

There were several articles mentioning it and several recent articles in the Times about Harland's overatures.

Of Course Harlan talks to them... He worked directly with 4 of the ADs and Kansas's AD is USF former Assistant AD..... and ever team in this conference is putting on a full court press. Every single one.

Simple truth is, neither one of us have a chance if they only go to 12. So far nothing has ruled out 14 or 16... the first piece of information simply said that 8 game and 12 teams was best route to playoff.
Navigate marketing will be the one to tell them where the most money comes from and supposedly Texas has said they are willing to compromise on the network. If Navigate says that 16 teams and a network will bring in the most money, then well, several of us will have a chance.

I tend to think it will be cinci and BYU.... Ive got a few reasons to think that. If they go to 14, Id put a months salary on USF being invited... and it helps that it was Navigate that did the research on who to add to the Big East.

I'll take that $20 bet
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(05-03-2016 09:27 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 09:24 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 07:37 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:37 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 06:34 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's curious is why Usf would put on a full court press and we aren't publicly

Maybe I've missed it but, where's USF's "Full Court Press"?

There were several articles mentioning it and several recent articles in the Times about Harland's overatures.

Of Course Harlan talks to them... He worked directly with 4 of the ADs and Kansas's AD is USF former Assistant AD..... and ever team in this conference is putting on a full court press. Every single one.

Simple truth is, neither one of us have a chance if they only go to 12. So far nothing has ruled out 14 or 16... the first piece of information simply said that 8 game and 12 teams was best route to playoff.
Navigate marketing will be the one to tell them where the most money comes from and supposedly Texas has said they are willing to compromise on the network. If Navigate says that 16 teams and a network will bring in the most money, then well, several of us will have a chance.

I tend to think it will be cinci and BYU.... Ive got a few reasons to think that. If they go to 14, Id put a months salary on USF being invited... and it helps that it was Navigate that did the research on who to add to the Big East.

I'll take that $20 bet

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Who knows what happens but I like USFs chances better with Harlan as AD than our old one.
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Anyone notice the research firm the big12 hired to consult on expansion? Navigate research. Anyone know who else hired navigate to consult for them a year or two ago? UCF. Straight from navigate's website on why conferences expand: http://www.navigateresearch.com/navigate...ces-expand
Which schools meet all those qualifications the best? Notice the order in which they rank the qualifications
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(05-03-2016 11:02 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Anyone notice the research firm the big12 hired to consult on expansion? Navigate research. Anyone know who else hired navigate to consult for them a year or two ago? UCF. Straight from navigate's website on why conferences expand: http://www.navigateresearch.com/navigate...ces-expand
Which schools meet all those qualifications the best? Notice the order in which they rank the qualifications
So, the Golden Knights are in?
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(05-03-2016 11:09 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 11:02 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Anyone notice the research firm the big12 hired to consult on expansion? Navigate research. Anyone know who else hired navigate to consult for them a year or two ago? UCF. Straight from navigate's website on why conferences expand: http://www.navigateresearch.com/navigate...ces-expand
Which schools meet all those qualifications the best? Notice the order in which they rank the qualifications
So, the Golden Knights are in?

No one knows but we all hope for the best. West Tennessee state teachers college may even have a chance. It's a crap shoot.
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(05-03-2016 11:02 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Anyone notice the research firm the big12 hired to consult on expansion? Navigate research. Anyone know who else hired navigate to consult for them a year or two ago? UCF. Straight from navigate's website on why conferences expand: http://www.navigateresearch.com/navigate...ces-expand
Which schools meet all those qualifications the best? Notice the order in which they rank the qualifications

from the site:

1. University Size - More students equal more dollars, more alumni, and an overall larger fan base. Schools with large student populations are naturally attractive because they produce more alumni, which then become fans and ultimately consumers.

2. APR and Academic Success Measures - Conferences are still set in place to help manage institutions of higher learning, and keeping successful academics is certainly a part of that mission. Schools that can enhance the overall academic profile of a conference have an advantage.

3. Television DMA Size - This is a major factor. Many contend it was the driving force behind Rutgers or Maryland to the Big 10. Just because a school may not have a strong following in a particular city does not mean that its location cannot be lucrative to a conference. It is more about the market’s reach and the potential subscription fees that can be charged.

4. Alumni Presence - Conferences want to see an active alumni base, both in athletics and the university. Alumni are key for season tickets, donations, and more.

5. Recruiting - Many conferences sees schools as a favorable place to expand because of recruiting access. Think about USF going to the BIG EAST over a decade ago. That now seems to purely have been a recruiting play with the BIG EAST attempting to gain a footprint in Florida, a high school football recruiting stronghold.
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