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Up to #21 (freom #23) in College Baseball Central, with #25 USM...

http://collegebaseballcentral.com/colleg...016/13753/

...and #14 in Baseball America (up from #15), with #19 FAU and #21 USM...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/c...Z1K1HbY.97
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#22 in Perfect Game (up from #24)...

http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View...icle=12407

....but I'm willing to bet we're still left off the polls from Collegiate Baseball, the writers and the coaches.
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For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.
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Up to #14 (from #16) in D1Baseball...

http://www.d1baseball.com/rankings/d1bas...ign=buffer
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(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

We went 2-2, FWIW.
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(05-02-2016 08:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  #22 in Perfect Game (up from #24)...

http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View...icle=12407

....but I'm willing to bet we're still left off the polls from Collegiate Baseball, the writers and the coaches.

Rice is #29 in the Coaches poll, up 1 spot. FAU held serve at #17 and USM went up 5 spots to 26 from 31, leap frogging Rice. I guess a midweek win vs. #21 ULL made more of a difference than 2 losses to #17 USM in their case????
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Go figure-- we returned to Collegiate Baseball's Top 25 (#21 up from #29) for the first time since the first week of the season (with #18 USM, but no FAU anywhere?)...

http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseb...ll-5-2-16/
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(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.
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(05-02-2016 04:25 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.

Actually, Eric is one of the very best college baseball pundits. He has considerable credibility. He grew up in Omaha, where he annually attended the CWS as a kid, and has loved the sport ever since. He is also a big Rice Owl and Wayne Graham supporter, but for some reason has been down on us all season.
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Still inexplicably not ranked (in their Top 30) by the writers (#20 FAU, #25 USM), but then again, neither is ECU...

http://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/news/...60502.html
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(05-02-2016 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 04:25 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.

Actually, Eric is one of the very best college baseball pundits. He has considerable credibility. He grew up in Omaha, where he annually attended the CWS as a kid, and has loved the sport ever since. He is also a big Rice Owl and Wayne Graham supporter, but for some reason has been down on us all season.

I guess I will go sit in the corner now 07-coffee3
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(05-02-2016 04:42 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 04:25 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.

Actually, Eric is one of the very best college baseball pundits. He has considerable credibility. He grew up in Omaha, where he annually attended the CWS as a kid, and has loved the sport ever since. He is also a big Rice Owl and Wayne Graham supporter, but for some reason has been down on us all season.

I guess I will go sit in the corner now 07-coffee3

Maybe we've let him down too many years in a row in the postseason. I've noticed he's been pretty down on us too.
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Hey, Eric included Rice in his "Eight for Omaha" one week this season!
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I don't think Eric is down on Rice Baseball. He loves what WG has built here, but he calls it like he sees it.
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(05-02-2016 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 04:25 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.

Actually, Eric is one of the very best college baseball pundits. He has considerable credibility. He grew up in Omaha, where he annually attended the CWS as a kid, and has loved the sport ever since. He is also a big Rice Owl and Wayne Graham supporter, but for some reason has been down on us all season.

He certainly has been a big time supporter. If I remember correctly, he was a fan when all the other pundits did not give us the time of day. And I think he had an article urging Jameson Taillon to come to Rice rather than signing with the pros, to "hep Wayne Graham and Rice win another national championship."
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(05-02-2016 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 04:25 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 08:57 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For some reason, Stitchhead Sorenson continues to pile on us this season, as he once again includes us in his weekly "ouch" list (yet doesn't include USM who went 1-3 on the week?)...

http://www.d1baseball.com/analysis/ouchl...ign=buffer

Quote:– Rice
What Happened: Won two of three vs. Charlotte
Why It Hurts: … because the Owls actually dropped 11 spots in the RPI.

Yes, Wayne and the Boys took a shot to the solar plexus from this weekend. Not for any kind of losses, mercy no. But they actually dropped from No. 20 in the RPI down to No. 30. Yes ten spots, despite winning the series against 155th-ranked Charlotte at Reckling Park this weekend. Yes, yes, yes, this is another byproduct of the watering down of the CUSA thanks to all that conference hopping that went on two to three years ago. See how football still screws with our sport?

...and he implies that CUSA is weak this year when in reality it is virtually tied with the Pac-12 for #3 ranking in RPI, ahead of the Big 12, Big 10 and Big West. Go figure.

From the D1 Website:

Eric Sorenson (West Coast/National)

Email Eric/Follow @stitch_head
Eric Sorenson comes to D1Baseball from Los Angeles. Due to a lack of hobbies, he’s been a college baseball writer for far longer than any human being should be.

If he had any credibility then they would likely elaborate on it, as they have done with everyone else on staff.

Actually, Eric is one of the very best college baseball pundits. He has considerable credibility. He grew up in Omaha, where he annually attended the CWS as a kid, and has loved the sport ever since. He is also a big Rice Owl and Wayne Graham supporter, but for some reason has been down on us all season.

I kind of scoff at the idea of a college baseball pundit or "expert".

Aside from a few teams, these guys don't know jack **** about college baseball relative to college basketball or football analysts. It isn't their fault. It is just impossible. There are too many games, too many teams, and too little media for these guys to have well-based opinions. If you've gotten to watch a team play 10-15 times (which I seriously doubt any analyst has even seen Florida play that many times), that is still a small sample size that doesn't tell you much.

All these guys can base their opinions on are schedules, stats, RPIs, draft prospect reports from scouts, a conversation with the coach (who surprise, likes his team), and then maybe some games that they get to watch online or in person. From what I can tell, that's all I ever see from D1's "analyses" in free article,s and that's all Kendall's work on Perfect Game was for the brief time that I was subscribed to it. Again, I think he does the best he can. Being a college baseball "expert" is just impossible.
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I agree with you ^

With that said, I do think the D1 guys do as good of a job as they can. They recognize their limitations, and do try to cover non-SEC/ACC teams which is nice.

One complaint about D1, now in their second season, is that it seems more of their content is subscription-only than it was last season. They gotta make money I guess, but their subscriptions aren't cheap for this student! Spotify>D1Baseball!!
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(05-02-2016 10:00 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  I kind of scoff at the idea of a college baseball pundit or "expert".

Aside from a few teams, these guys don't know jack **** about college baseball relative to college basketball or football analysts. It isn't their fault. It is just impossible. There are too many games, too many teams, and too little media for these guys to have well-based opinions. If you've gotten to watch a team play 10-15 times (which I seriously doubt any analyst has even seen Florida play that many times), that is still a small sample size that doesn't tell you much.

All these guys can base their opinions on are schedules, stats, RPIs, draft prospect reports from scouts, a conversation with the coach (who surprise, likes his team), and then maybe some games that they get to watch online or in person. From what I can tell, that's all I ever see from D1's "analyses" in free article,s and that's all Kendall's work on Perfect Game was for the brief time that I was subscribed to it. Again, I think he does the best he can. Being a college baseball "expert" is just impossible.

I'm pretty sure the main guys at d1 are at different ballparks every weekend and for a lot of mid-week games. I know that Eric gets on the company jet (as he calls it) and sees many different matchups each season. If you know what you are looking at while watching a game, and you've been doing it awhile (like Eric), then we benefit from reading about their observations.

I would agree that the coverage of NCAA baseball is pitiful as compared to the "major" sports, but it sure has improved in the last 10 years. BA used to be the best, but their unapologetic view is that college baseball is a feeder to the big leagues. d1 came around with a singular focus on college baseball. Hooray!
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Compared to me, lots of guys are college baseball pundits, and I enjoy hearing their take on things, including the experts right here on the Parliament.
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(05-03-2016 08:38 AM)grol Wrote:  
(05-02-2016 10:00 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  I kind of scoff at the idea of a college baseball pundit or "expert".

Aside from a few teams, these guys don't know jack **** about college baseball relative to college basketball or football analysts. It isn't their fault. It is just impossible. There are too many games, too many teams, and too little media for these guys to have well-based opinions. If you've gotten to watch a team play 10-15 times (which I seriously doubt any analyst has even seen Florida play that many times), that is still a small sample size that doesn't tell you much.

All these guys can base their opinions on are schedules, stats, RPIs, draft prospect reports from scouts, a conversation with the coach (who surprise, likes his team), and then maybe some games that they get to watch online or in person. From what I can tell, that's all I ever see from D1's "analyses" in free article,s and that's all Kendall's work on Perfect Game was for the brief time that I was subscribed to it. Again, I think he does the best he can. Being a college baseball "expert" is just impossible.

I'm pretty sure the main guys at d1 are at different ballparks every weekend and for a lot of mid-week games. I know that Eric gets on the company jet (as he calls it) and sees many different matchups each season. If you know what you are looking at while watching a game, and you've been doing it awhile (like Eric), then we benefit from reading about their observations.

I would agree that the coverage of NCAA baseball is pitiful as compared to the "major" sports, but it sure has improved in the last 10 years. BA used to be the best, but their unapologetic view is that college baseball is a feeder to the big leagues. d1 came around with a singular focus on college baseball. Hooray!

Yeah, as I said, I think they do the best they can. I'm certainly thankful for what they do and we are better off for it. Something is better than nothing.

I'm just saying that they can provide little insider information about more than a few teams and even then, they are basing it on a small sample size. In addition to the lack of coverage, much of it simply has to do with the nature of baseball. Teams get hot and play completely over their heads for stretches (let alone individual games). They get cold and play terrible baseball. I think you need to watch at least 15-20 games scattered throughout the season to have an accurate perception of how good a baseball team is. No one has time to do that for more than a couple of teams.

Hell, I'm even a little dubious on coverage from a regional scope for those reasons, let alone national.

That doesn't mean that I don't want to read and keep up. It just means that I'm taking anything and everything they say with a pound of salt because they are probably just looking at stats, schedule, and who has the most high profile draft prospects for all but a handful of teams.
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