When do we renegotiate?

I believe I've heard 2018.

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

That would only put us back to where most of us are now with the exit fees. They are due to run out by then

(04-30-2016 07:14 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  When do we renegotiate?

Deal expires after 2018-19 school year. ESPN will have an exclusive window to rengotiate during the summer and early fall of 2018. If we can't get a deal done, then we can go to the open market in late 2018.

So I expect we'll start hearing numbers thrown around about two years from now.

Which means we have two more football seasons and two more basketball seasons to state our case for more $$$.

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

(04-30-2016 11:41 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

Which is where the big east was except we have no champ access

(04-30-2016 11:41 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

$10mil. a year would be amazing.

(04-30-2016 12:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 11:41 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

$10mil. a year would be amazing.

We are not getting a 500% raise. $4 -5 million would be awesome to really separate from the G4. Navy should be a really valuable addition. Love to grab someone like Wichita State on the hoops side.

(04-30-2016 12:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 11:41 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:31 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  I believe I've heard 2018.

If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

$10mil. a year would be amazing.

We are not getting a 500% raise. $4 -5 million would be awesome to really separate from the G4. Navy should be a really valuable addition. Love to grab someone like Wichita State on the hoops side.

that's right, keep selling the conference cheap. Buy into ESPN's hype. Settle back in your seats, you'll be here for a very long time.

Screw ESPN. If Aresco isn't seeking Power status, he should be fired. Aim for the moon and if you don't catch it, perhaps you can wrangle in a comet or two. Never ask for pennies when you want dollars.

BYU gets $6-7M per year for their football.

The Big East schools get $5M per year for their basketball.

Combine that, and $11-12M per year is the outer edge of possible. Will we have the leverage to get it? Very likely not. But I remain hopeful we can get BYU money ($6-7M per year) for our combined football + hoops package.

(04-30-2016 12:24 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:12 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 11:41 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:56 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  If we do not lose anybody I think with the amount of content we provide and our wins in the Access Bowls (if Houston can win this year that would be great also), UConn's national championships, we should be fine. We probably just need to make a decent run in the NCAA the next two years and we can probably get around $4-$5 million a team. Not a whole lot compared to P5 but does make a difference.

This league has very good market sizes... It's current members aren't nowhere near been start-ups, most programs/teams have rich histories behind them, had the AAC not been labeled a dead walking conference from start this conference would of easy fetch the 4mil - 5mil per many now think could get.

But now that the AAC has spread it's wings, muscles and shown what most of this leagues teams are capable of when winning upscale games nationally, tv rating $$$ wise, 8mil - 10mil now shouldn't be far out of reach.

$10mil. a year would be amazing.

We are not getting a 500% raise. $4 -5 million would be awesome to really separate from the G4. Navy should be a really valuable addition. Love to grab someone like Wichita State on the hoops side.

that's right, keep selling the conference cheap. Buy into ESPN's hype. Settle back in your seats, you'll be here for a very long time.

Screw ESPN. If Aresco isn't seeking Power status, he should be fired. Aim for the moon and if you don't catch it, perhaps you can wrangle in a comet or two. Never ask for pennies when you want dollars.

4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

(04-30-2016 12:58 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

Do you believe that UCF belongs in a Power Conference? If you do then you must think that UCF is worth at least 25-30Mil a year. That's the going figure for a Power Conference invite.

Florida is worth 80mil a year in Cable user fees. I think that USF is worth at least half that which means, USF is worth 40mil a year. So asking me to except or even cheer about 4-5mil a year is insanity.

I'm not going to debate the expenses or values of every team, that's pointless. What I'm saying is that "MY TEAM" is worth a Power Invite. So that's my going rate. Would the conference get it? Maybe not but, I'm not posting anywhere that I'll except that figure or even rationalize it. 4-5mil is just pennies on the dollar of what this conference is really worth.

FYI: By saying you'd except 4-5 mil a year, you devalue and invalidate all your claims that UCF belongs in a power conference. USF belongs in a power conference. Do all the members of the American? Probably not but, USF does. So, 4-5mil is not a good price for the conference's new media deal. That's all I'm saying.

ESPN is going to offer less money but they agreed to throw in some AAC decals and 32oz. commemorative cups to each school.

i think ESPN possibly passing on the B1G, may help the "American" when comes to time to renegotiating..time will tell.

What would people's thoughts be on possibly going somewhere other than ESPN? If, for example, ESPN is offering $4 million per school and Fox/NBC/CBS are offering $8 million? Honestly, I think Fox is slowly becoming a more viable option as a tv partner but the other two I would pass on.

(04-30-2016 01:05 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:58 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

Do you believe that UCF belongs in a Power Conference? If you do then you must think that UCF is worth at least 25-30Mil a year. That's the going figure for a Power Conference invite.

Florida is worth 80mil a year in Cable user fees. I think that USF is worth at least half that which means, USF is worth 40mil a year. So asking me to except or even cheer about 4-5mil a year is insanity.

I'm not going to debate the expenses or values of every team, that's pointless. What I'm saying is that "MY TEAM" is worth a Power Invite. So that's my going rate. Would the conference get it? Maybe not but, I'm not posting anywhere that I'll except that figure or even rationalize it. 4-5mil is just pennies on the dollar of what this conference is really worth.

FYI: By saying you'd except 4-5 mil a year, you devalue and invalidate all your claims that UCF belongs in a power conference. USF belongs in a power conference. Do all the members of the American? Probably not but, USF does. So, 4-5mil is not a good price for the conference's new media deal. That's all I'm saying.

Wow your not a homer at all....

(04-30-2016 01:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:05 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:58 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

Do you believe that UCF belongs in a Power Conference? If you do then you must think that UCF is worth at least 25-30Mil a year. That's the going figure for a Power Conference invite.

Florida is worth 80mil a year in Cable user fees. I think that USF is worth at least half that which means, USF is worth 40mil a year. So asking me to except or even cheer about 4-5mil a year is insanity.

I'm not going to debate the expenses or values of every team, that's pointless. What I'm saying is that "MY TEAM" is worth a Power Invite. So that's my going rate. Would the conference get it? Maybe not but, I'm not posting anywhere that I'll except that figure or even rationalize it. 4-5mil is just pennies on the dollar of what this conference is really worth.

FYI: By saying you'd except 4-5 mil a year, you devalue and invalidate all your claims that UCF belongs in a power conference. USF belongs in a power conference. Do all the members of the American? Probably not but, USF does. So, 4-5mil is not a good price for the conference's new media deal. That's all I'm saying.

Wow your not a homer at all....

Really!!!! Do you believe that Houston is worth a Power conference invite?













"HOMER!!!!!!!!"

(04-30-2016 01:30 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:05 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:58 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

Do you believe that UCF belongs in a Power Conference? If you do then you must think that UCF is worth at least 25-30Mil a year. That's the going figure for a Power Conference invite.

Florida is worth 80mil a year in Cable user fees. I think that USF is worth at least half that which means, USF is worth 40mil a year. So asking me to except or even cheer about 4-5mil a year is insanity.

I'm not going to debate the expenses or values of every team, that's pointless. What I'm saying is that "MY TEAM" is worth a Power Invite. So that's my going rate. Would the conference get it? Maybe not but, I'm not posting anywhere that I'll except that figure or even rationalize it. 4-5mil is just pennies on the dollar of what this conference is really worth.

FYI: By saying you'd except 4-5 mil a year, you devalue and invalidate all your claims that UCF belongs in a power conference. USF belongs in a power conference. Do all the members of the American? Probably not but, USF does. So, 4-5mil is not a good price for the conference's new media deal. That's all I'm saying.

Wow your not a homer at all....

Really!!!! Do you believe that Houston is worth a Power conference invite?













"HOMER!!!!!!!!"

Thanks for proving my point..... I mean if you knew anything about UH you would know we were in a power conference before USF even played Division 1 football. But then again I'm not blinded by homerism.

(04-30-2016 02:01 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:30 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 01:05 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 12:58 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  4 to 5 million wouldn't be a raise. Given Boises contract and byus I think we can get more unless we are plucked

Do you believe that UCF belongs in a Power Conference? If you do then you must think that UCF is worth at least 25-30Mil a year. That's the going figure for a Power Conference invite.

Florida is worth 80mil a year in Cable user fees. I think that USF is worth at least half that which means, USF is worth 40mil a year. So asking me to except or even cheer about 4-5mil a year is insanity.

I'm not going to debate the expenses or values of every team, that's pointless. What I'm saying is that "MY TEAM" is worth a Power Invite. So that's my going rate. Would the conference get it? Maybe not but, I'm not posting anywhere that I'll except that figure or even rationalize it. 4-5mil is just pennies on the dollar of what this conference is really worth.

FYI: By saying you'd except 4-5 mil a year, you devalue and invalidate all your claims that UCF belongs in a power conference. USF belongs in a power conference. Do all the members of the American? Probably not but, USF does. So, 4-5mil is not a good price for the conference's new media deal. That's all I'm saying.

Wow your not a homer at all....

Really!!!! Do you believe that Houston is worth a Power conference invite?













"HOMER!!!!!!!!"

Thanks for proving my point..... I mean if you knew anything about UH you would know we were in a power conference before USF even played Division 1 football. But then again I'm not blinded by homerism.

You're a super homer. Which of the two schools was the most recent member of a power conference? Just admit you failed to understand my post and move on.