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How far should Tolerance go?
From the other thread. The following was written sort of tongue in cheek, but it is true and does demonstrate how ridiculous things can get after sliding down the slippery slope:

Another thread I was reading recently mentioned that Tulane's namesake, a slaveowner, was causing a something of a stink to change their university's name in order to be more tolerant, welcoming and politically correct to today's modern diverse student body.

I did a quick search and found that, lo and behold, William Marsh Rice was also a slaveowner:

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Quote: Rice made his fortune by investing in land, real estate, lumber, railroads, cotton, and other prospects in Texas and Louisiana. In 1860, his total property, which included fifteen slaves, was worth $750,000....he was a slaveowner with fifteen slaves in 1860 and served on the slave patrol for a year. His ashes are buried under John Angel's statue of him on the Rice University campus in Houston.


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William Marsh Rice--namesake of Rice University....for the time being

Looks like the Rice activists have really been dropping the ball on this, which is actually kind of difficult to believe, really. Do they need to get agitated to change the schools' namesake and remove the statue of their founder from its exalted position in the center of the main academic quad ASAP? This is 2016 for goodness sakes, not 1860.

Wonder why so many affiliated with the school continue to promote Rice's racist views by tolerating the statute of the bigot in the main quad, as well as continuing to promote him by keeping his tarnished name as the standard of the University? Would it not be more in line with today's prevailing standards to show our high-minded sensitivity to all people and just remove the statue and rename the University to something less like a giant Rebel flag which is what we now have? Should we all be deeply embarrassed and ashamed and need to assuage our collective guilt by no longer mentioning or helping promote his name until it is fully erased from the campus which his money built--after all, it is blood money? Does the university leadership need to find his slaves' descendants, redistributing the endowment monies to them (because it is really their money, after all and should rightly be taken away from those who worked to build the University up into what it is today--their work might not have been possible at all if not for the unpaid sweat and slave-enabled labor which the founder himself enjoyed whist building his empire) and give them the ownership of their university which was stolen from them?

Maybe one of these descendants can coach football, so perhaps there can finally be a palatable excuse to make that change after 10 years? It's all about doing what is politically correct, and sensitive, after all... Should we not also use a substantial portion of funds to add that third bathroom everywhere there are only two now on campus as well? Maybe the rest of the stadium renovations will just have to wait until we solve this much greater issue?

Maybe we could rename the school the "Politically Correct University of Houston" or PCU of H, for short.

I realize how ridiculous this might sound to 2 or 3 of you, but the rest of course know that we are living in a modern society and these things need to be addressed post haste as they just cannot be tolerated by those who wish to tolerate everything except those things which the elites themselves can't tolerate...all in the name of proving that they are the most tolerant, of course.

I recently bought a copy of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection for my son, as he's old enough to watch some Bugs Bunny cartoons. At the beginning, there is a disclaimer stating that the cartoons on the DVD are reproduced as they originally were shown, without censorship, because to alter or censor them would be tantamount to saying that the attitudes that they depict never existed, which is simply untrue. And when you censor everything to fit whatever the elite intelligentsia of the day decides is correct, you end up with this:

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We already have the cameras and tracking devices being installed almost everywhere. How much more of our truth and freedoms are we going to sacrifice before it is too late...if it's not already?
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
And then, there is this inconvenient truth:

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Should his descendants not be hunted down and all their assets and belongings taken away from all of them today as well in the name of justice?


If you go back far enough, everybody on the planet is guilty of these crimes at some point in their past. Should we then nuke the whole planet in order to be fair and right every wrong ever done in human history?
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
I view Tulane and Rice as this. Yes, they owned other humans beings and that is reprehensible but their financial riches led to two amazing universities. That is good coming out of evil.
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
They would find a lot about our society repugnant.

The tolerance towards homosexuality would be one.
But there would also be the coarseness of our language, our addiction to our phones and other devices, the way we treat each other in person and even more on-line, the level of violence and crime, pornography, our TV shows, the level of our political discourse (the Lincoln-Douglas debates were at a far, far higher level than the things that pass as debates in this century), clothing styles, especially for children, plastic surgery....

Smugness is really not warranted.
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
I hope that you realize that Lincoln despised the Black Man. He stated plenty of times that they were not equal to Whites. And he has a large monument in DC and in our currency....Carry On!
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
(04-29-2016 08:29 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I view Tulane and Rice as this. Yes, they owned other humans beings and that is reprehensible but their financial riches led to two amazing universities. That is good coming out of evil.

My understanding is God permits people to act poorly out of respect for their free will, but always seeks to allow a greater good to come out of the evil. Sometimes the good can take quite a while to show, though, so we have to be patient.
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(04-29-2016 09:26 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I hope that you realize that Lincoln despised the Black Man. He stated plenty of times that they were not equal to Whites. And he has a large monument in DC and in our currency....Carry On!

Someday I hope all people can be judged by their individual character and works instead of by the collective color of their skin or the fact that they are a father and not a mother. But that day is not here yet.

When I was a rap DJ in college, the first one to ever be a rap DJ back at my school, on a nerdy punk radio station, it was not because of (or in spite of) my color, but because at the time I was interested in the creativity involved in this new form of music and the excitement of being part of that.

I believe PC hurts everyone in the long run, of all colors and backgrounds, because it promotes fascist fear, encourages people to have cover to hide behind lies and disordered and/or destructive behavior instead of having a chance to honestly and openly work out their differences with honest dialog, no matter how painful. PC too often leaves people further divided about their differences rather than unite them by their similar humanity, because PC promotes dishonesty and resentment from both sides.

PC also allows people to avoid the truth about disordered behavior that promotes stereotypes that promotes division that promotes hurt and hate. PC kills. PC is dishonest. PC will never get us to judging a man or woman solely by their character. When someone is doing something disordered, you can bet calls for being PC about it will be readily present. That hurts all of society and drags us down.
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
California state reps voted against John Wayne Day because he said something racist in a playboy interview in 1971.
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If we took what these PC nutcases preach as gospel, we would have to change a name of a state, change the image of the $1 bill, a name of a university, a monument, and our nation's capital all because we could risk offending some group of people that might be offended. If you look at the history of how liberals try to get social change, they always do things gradually. They will start with low hanging fruit that not many will complain about such as a name of a school like Tulane or Rice, then will work to bigger things. It would not surprise me if in the future, these same liberals will use this as an excuse to discredit anything that our founding fathers have done and using this to change policy of our country on a large scale. I have already of heard people saying stuff to discredit our founding fathers using such means already and most people just shrug it off. For now...
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
The sooner we purge all vestiges of slavery...the better. This schit will never stop until that happens. Let's get it out of the way and move the fck on.
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(04-30-2016 08:05 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The sooner we purge all vestiges of slavery...the better. This schit will never stop until that happens. Let's get it out of the way and move the fck on.

Since the Democratic party supported slavery, I recommend we get rid of all Democrats. Ship them off to Russia, which needs people, Cuba which they are so fond of, or Liberia.
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RE: How far should Tolerance go?
I've long been in favor of removing the hateful term "Alabama" from our school's name.
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And how many states use Indian (excuse me, "native American") words in their name without the tribes permission? So long about half the states.
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Washington owned slaves...better rename the state, the country's capitol, every town and village named Washington, every county, every street, every school, airport, navy ship, etc.

I can't imagine the microagressions that occur when confronted with the name of that odious name.

My apologies to George Washington Carter who henceforth must be know as George Carver.

Jefferson Starship watchout. Your name is next.
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(04-30-2016 11:34 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  Washington owned slaves...better rename the state, the country's capitol, every town and village named Washington, every county, every street, every school, airport, navy ship, etc.

I can't imagine the microagressions that occur when confronted with the name of that odious name.

My apologies to George Washington Carter who henceforth must be know as George Carver.

Jefferson Starship watchout. Your name is next.

Wait until they figure out our space program has killed alien amino acids (or should I say "undocumented amino acids"). Then Starship has to go.
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Meh, people have a habit of picking and choosing what they want to rail on. If there's one thing that happens with time, it is that things that we've been reverent towards eventually fall out of favor or at least become more exposed. We are a young country and atrocities take up the vast majority of our history. It's still hard to talk about history in an uninvolved way for either side.
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(04-30-2016 08:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-30-2016 08:05 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The sooner we purge all vestiges of slavery...the better. This schit will never stop until that happens. Let's get it out of the way and move the fck on.

Since the Democratic party supported slavery, I recommend we get rid of all Democrats. Ship them off to Russia, which needs people, Cuba which they are so fond of, or Liberia.

I agree. Let's start a petition and I'll be first to sign it. 03-wink
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El Paso, Texas is an insult to women, it should be changed to La Paso.
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(04-30-2016 08:05 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The sooner we purge all vestiges of slavery...the better. This schit will never stop until that happens. Let's get it out of the way and move the fck on.

I know it's tiresome, but just think how easy the life of these Americans must be that this is the crusade they choose.

We might just as well expunge our history. Eff all these lunatics.......
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Looks like Woodrow Wilson is the next target. Link to USA Today

And lets not forget that Leland Stanford used Chinese slaves to build the Central Pacific before he endowed Stanford University.
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