(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:55 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Voter ID is perfectly reasonable and should be the norm. I don't see a problem with same-day registration though.

I think so long as you have a proper state ID and proof you live in that district (utility bill) and your vote is provisional then that can work.

I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

The hours are the same, but fewer days. Personally...once the candidates are determined, let people vote.

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:55 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Voter ID is perfectly reasonable and should be the norm. I don't see a problem with same-day registration though.

I think so long as you have a proper state ID and proof you live in that district (utility bill) and your vote is provisional then that can work.

I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:55 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I think so long as you have a proper state ID and proof you live in that district (utility bill) and your vote is provisional then that can work.

I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:55 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I think so long as you have a proper state ID and proof you live in that district (utility bill) and your vote is provisional then that can work.

I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

You have a link for that? It is the easiest way to vote period. Do you walk your check down to the power company, mail it, or pay via online account?

(04-26-2016 04:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

You have a link for that? It is the easiest way to vote period. Do you walk your check down to the power company, mail it, or pay via online account?

A link to many people not liking to vote absentee? How about the percent of people the do not vote absentee? The absentee ballot is the easiest to abuse. There is a fear for many that the vote will not be counted, lost in the mail or not arrive in time. People like to see the ballot go in the box. For me, I usually early vote but I will probably get an absentee ballot for the wife this time.

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Right that must be it...

(04-26-2016 08:53 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  he's a Bush appointee out of Atlanta...keep filing til you get a liberal judge.

You can't do that.

How dare you talk to UofMemphis like that! Using facts and logic to support your opinion.

(04-26-2016 06:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Right that must be it...

is it not obvious?

(04-26-2016 06:45 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

You have a link for that? It is the easiest way to vote period. Do you walk your check down to the power company, mail it, or pay via online account?

A link to many people not liking to vote absentee? How about the percent of people the do not vote absentee? The absentee ballot is the easiest to abuse. There is a fear for many that the vote will not be counted, lost in the mail or not arrive in time. People like to see the ballot go in the box. For me, I usually early vote but I will probably get an absentee ballot for the wife this time.

Do you have a link for that? Any evidence?

(04-26-2016 08:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Right that must be it...

is it not obvious?

It must be nice to live in a world where you get to tell other people the exact reasons they want something..

(04-26-2016 08:44 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Right that must be it...

is it not obvious?

It must be nice to live in a world where you get to tell other people the exact reasons they want something..

it must be nice to live in a world where you only respond with pictures rather than defend or explain your viewpoints.

(04-26-2016 08:46 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:44 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Right that must be it...

is it not obvious?

It must be nice to live in a world where you get to tell other people the exact reasons they want something..

it must be nice to live in a world where you only respond with pictures rather than defend or explain your viewpoints.

What's to defend... Before there was any discussion as to what I think and why you said this..

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Maybe you could have asked why I thought something first instead of making your blatant preconception the point of discussion.

(04-26-2016 09:08 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:46 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:44 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 06:51 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Right that must be it...

is it not obvious?

It must be nice to live in a world where you get to tell other people the exact reasons they want something..

it must be nice to live in a world where you only respond with pictures rather than defend or explain your viewpoints.

What's to defend... Before there was any discussion as to what I think and why you said this..

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Maybe you could have asked why I thought something first instead of making your blatant preconception the point of discussion.

or you could grow a brain and some common sense and actually explain your thought process rather than drag this out over a full page of posts. this is why I enjoy talking with the other cons on here more than you. they actually have the inclination to get straight to the point.

(04-26-2016 09:13 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:08 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:46 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:44 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 08:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  is it not obvious?

It must be nice to live in a world where you get to tell other people the exact reasons they want something..

it must be nice to live in a world where you only respond with pictures rather than defend or explain your viewpoints.

What's to defend... Before there was any discussion as to what I think and why you said this..

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

Maybe you could have asked why I thought something first instead of making your blatant preconception the point of discussion.

or you could grow a brain and some common sense and actually explain your thought process rather than drag this out over a full page of posts. this is why I enjoy talking with the other cons on here more than you. they actually have the inclination to get straight to the point.

lol... I was willing to let it drop when you started on with the "you must hate brown or poor or brown and poor people schtick"... You bring that weak sauce in nearly every friggen time voting comes up. Because in your mind if someone does not agree with you they must be racist..

Why do I not like a month of voting before the election


1 - Because that represents somewhere between 25-33% of the entire presidential campaign. IOW if you vote on October 1st there are still 30 days for something else to happen which might be of national relevance...

What happens if you vote hill-dog on 10/3 and then on the 15th she has a stroke and dies? You've now voted for her VP choice before the election even happened.

Giving a whole day Saturday, then election day, plus absentee ballots should cover anyone who actually wants to vote and with a minimum delta between the first ballot and the election.

2 - Because how the media covers early voting can supress the vote for a candidate on election day. Two weeks of reports that say "Candidate X is just killing it" could drive *down* turnout on election day for candidate Y..

And if they can frack up Florida as bad as they did on election night (thus hurting turnout in the panhandle) imagine what they could do with a whole month.

But I'm sure somehow that's racist as well...

Now sod off you friggen man child..

Quote:lol... I was willing to let it drop when you started on with the "you must hate brown or poor or brown and poor people schtick"... You bring that weak sauce in nearly every friggen time voting comes up. Because in your mind if someone does not agree with you they must be racist..

LOL for someone who is always blaming me for putting words in others mouths, jumping to conclusions, etc. here is what I said:

"you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible."

you must have egg on your face. didn't you just go a full page complaining about my using this very tactic?

regardless your first point is valid, however I would argue what about those who work odd schedules where they are either sent to some remote place for awhile?

second point: correct me if I'm wrong but is the media even allowed to report early voting results.

I would counter both points by posing the question of "is this simply a reasonable excuse for an unreasonable action?" for example the "disorder" defense for Viagra to justify why men can get coverage for sex related drugs but not women. its a good defense on paper but at the end of the day does nothing to change how hypocritical that policy is. same thing with early voting. GOP wants to curb it with some (Phyllis Schlafly) literally saying they want to end it because it benefits Dems.

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:55 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 09:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Voter ID is perfectly reasonable and should be the norm. I don't see a problem with same-day registration though.

I think so long as you have a proper state ID and proof you live in that district (utility bill) and your vote is provisional then that can work.

I don't have a problem with someone casting a provisional ballot...say they just moved to a particular area....but...I oppose same day registration. The damn elections are well publicized. It is YOUR responsibility to register during the deadline. I'm sick of coddling people because they are lazy, forgetful, or ignorant. Our whole society has become a bunch of fat, coddled babies. It is sickening.

I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

I don't have a problem with the early voting in the General election. I don't care to fund the primaries with tax dollars manning the sites unless the gangs pay for it.

Ill just come right out and say it. If you can't figure out how to manage to register and then vote in an election you either are lazy,ignorant or just don't care. These elections are a minimum of 2 years apart. You are trying to tell me you cant figure this out in 2 years?...Seriously?

(04-26-2016 04:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 04:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2016 03:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I'm concerned with the reduced early voting days.

Why? Vote with absentee ballot and mail it in a week or weeks prior to the election.

Many don't like the absentee voting option. Long lines on election day make it difficult for working people to vote. Early voting helps a lot, but when you compress the window of time for early voting, especially cutting the number of Saturdays, it again makes it difficult.

I believe though that early voting has gotten out of hand... I'd be fine with the Saturday before Election day and the election day... But not this two weeks before BS....

you just don't like the voting process to be as open and as fair to everyone as possible.

sort of a presumptive comment don't you think?

(04-27-2016 04:54 AM)john01992 Wrote:  regardless your first point is valid, however I would argue what about those who work odd schedules where they are either sent to some remote place for awhile?

Absentee ballots can be sent any time, from anywhere. You don't need a month even with the most odd work schedule.

I mean why no just start national voting august 1st right?

Quote:second point: correct me if I'm wrong but is the media even allowed to report early voting results.

You're wrong. The media can not give you numbers but they have in the past poisoned the well of public opinion.

Quote:I would counter both points by posing the question of "is this simply a reasonable excuse for an unreasonable action?"

And Lo' he did completely ignore the substance of my post only to continue to pretend he knows my heart better than men.

This, you insufferable man-baby is why you deserve only pictures in reply to presumptive posts. I gave you my reasons and rather than only debate them you finish up by once again telling me why I really believe what I believe.