(04-24-2016 03:47 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 01:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Now that the SEC has seen how much more $ the big 10 is getting for their tv product, I predict they will make a move to come closer to the big 10 in $. They will move to add FSU and UNC to the SEC East and will slide Mizzou to the SEC West. GOR be damned. It's a perception thing, and the SEC will do what it has to do. After the ACC loses those two, the big 12 will quickly add Virginia Tech and 1 other. (Pitt probably). At some point the big ten will add two ACC schools as well, probably UVA and Duke. My prediction.
Cheers!

Man will colonize Mars by 2050. My prediction.

2075.
Cheers!

2040 First man lands on Mars.
2050 NASA establish permanent posts. Astronauts live on Mars in rotation basis.
2075 Humans immigrate to Mars and call it home. Cities are built.

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

(04-25-2016 12:00 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  I predict the return of Miami under Mark Richt will be a game changer for the ACC.

Agree I also think UNC has a chance to finally become a power They should have been all along giving the ACC a much stronger foundation to go head to head with the Other conferences.

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

I don't think ECU should be in the ACC. I do note like the NC ACC schools but I do like Clemson and Louisville the rest of the yankee schools I have no opinion of, while GT, FSU, and Miami don't do much for me either. My point being I think the ACC has a chance to build football. The questions will be if the SEC expands I think they go through Duke/UNC and they turn them down the question is does NC State stay with UNC or do they make that leap that A&M made. My opinion is NC State stays, this opens the door for another VA/NC team to the SEC (the SEC needs this market to big of a population that the rest of the South doesn't have). At that point I think East Carolina needs to be prepared to take that spot if possible. What will it take for SEC to take ECU IMHO ECU rebrands itself as Carolina U. drops the East. SEC is not going to take a directional school (even though I don't consider us one since we are East Carolina and there is no state of Carolina it isn't like we are Eastern North Carolina University). The SEC can not be a southern conference without having the CAROLINA school in it. ECU also needs to build a brand new basketball arena similar to Ole Miss and start winning games (nothing big time but just first round NCAA or NITs (we are not talking about NCAA runs just appearances)). Third thing will be for ECU to get to Omaha consistently or win a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in baseball. SEC loves baseball and East Carolina has great attendance for the sport and is constantly does good, but we need to become great and the SEC will love that aspect. FOURTH get to Access Bowl at least three times before next expansion (very hard to do but what is needed), schedule more SEC games even if they are neutral (in Atlanta or Charlotte vs. Tennessee or Georgia) or One and Done against BAMA or LSU just so teams get to know us. Once our current stadium expansion is done we will have a decent looking stadium stadium for the SEC just have a plan to show the SEC to expand to ~65,000 for the SEC to improve.

That is a lot to do and I do not think the Pirates will ever rebrand as the Carolina Pirates even though they should (don't get me started on Chapel Hill using Carolina they are North Carolina so they do not own that name and NFL/MLB teams share locations names in New York/Chicago/Los Angeles, etc.). And rebranding fully as ECU will not get us into the SEC either making a name initials does not change your name people still ask what ECU stands for also to many _CU, in VCU, TCU, GCU, CCU, WCU, etc.

When it comes to the ACC only way ECU gets in if UNC/Duke/UVA are gone, then it probably would not be the same ACC, more like the Old Big East.

(04-24-2016 10:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Now that the SEC has seen how much more $ the big 10 is getting for their tv product, I predict they will make a move to come closer to the big 10 in $. They will move to add FSU and UNC to the SEC East and will slide Mizzou to the SEC West. GOR be damned. It's a perception thing, and the SEC will do what it has to do. After the ACC loses those two, the big 12 will quickly add Virginia Tech and 1 other. (Pitt probably). At some point the big ten will add two ACC schools as well, probably UVA and Duke. My prediction.
Cheers!

The SEC would be much more likely to take VT and NC State.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-foo...c-in-2012/

(04-24-2016 10:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Now that the SEC has seen how much more $ the big 10 is getting for their tv product, I predict they will make a move to come closer to the big 10 in $. They will move to add FSU and UNC to the SEC East and will slide Mizzou to the SEC West. GOR be damned. It's a perception thing, and the SEC will do what it has to do. After the ACC loses those two, the big 12 will quickly add Virginia Tech and 1 other. (Pitt probably). At some point the big ten will add two ACC schools as well, probably UVA and Duke. My prediction.
Cheers!

Care to make a signature bet on that prediction...?

(04-25-2016 01:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 03:47 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 01:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Now that the SEC has seen how much more $ the big 10 is getting for their tv product, I predict they will make a move to come closer to the big 10 in $. They will move to add FSU and UNC to the SEC East and will slide Mizzou to the SEC West. GOR be damned. It's a perception thing, and the SEC will do what it has to do. After the ACC loses those two, the big 12 will quickly add Virginia Tech and 1 other. (Pitt probably). At some point the big ten will add two ACC schools as well, probably UVA and Duke. My prediction.
Cheers!

Man will colonize Mars by 2050. My prediction.

2075.
Cheers!

2040 First man lands on Mars.
2050 NASA establish permanent posts. Astronauts live on Mars in rotation basis.
2075 Humans immigrate to Mars and call it home. Cities are built.
2076 All Martians are forced to pay for BTN and SECN on basic cable.
2077 An announcement is made that the ACC and ESPN are seriously considering
the launch of a joint ACC Cable Network "any day now".

(04-25-2016 01:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 03:47 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 01:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:35 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Now that the SEC has seen how much more $ the big 10 is getting for their tv product, I predict they will make a move to come closer to the big 10 in $. They will move to add FSU and UNC to the SEC East and will slide Mizzou to the SEC West. GOR be damned. It's a perception thing, and the SEC will do what it has to do. After the ACC loses those two, the big 12 will quickly add Virginia Tech and 1 other. (Pitt probably). At some point the big ten will add two ACC schools as well, probably UVA and Duke. My prediction.
Cheers!

Man will colonize Mars by 2050. My prediction.

2075.
Cheers!

2040 First man lands on Mars.
2050 NASA establish permanent posts. Astronauts live on Mars in rotation basis.
2075 Humans immigrate to Mars and call it home. Cities are built.

Maybe we get back to the moon by 2040. 12 men landed on the moon in a 3.5 year period from 1969-1972. 44 years and we have no plans to go back. Most people alive today never saw a live moonwalk. Most people alive today barely remember the fall of the Berlin Wall and don't grasp the huge significance. Most people alive today barely remember the fall of the SWC and don't grasp the huge significance.

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

Yes I realize that ECU will never be in the ACC. I accept that.
I believe the ACC is the weakest P5 conference by a long shot and will have its best 4 to 6 schools taken by the SEC, Big 10, Big 12.
Louisville will not be among the 4 to 6 teams moving up because they don't belong academically. The ACC was a weak football conference, and got weaker when they added all those non Southern Big East city state schools like Miami, Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh and Louisville.--that was a fatal mistake.
Yes, I strongly dislike Louisville because of its fans who troll the AAC board. I know it's mostly one guy (Wilkie) who uses multiple handles, but there a few more.
I stand by my prediction: The ACC will start losing schools in the next few years.
Cheers!

I don't see UNC going anywhere without Duke and probably UVA.

(04-25-2016 09:05 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

Yes I realize that ECU will never be in the ACC. I accept that.
I believe the ACC is the weakest P5 conference by a long shot and will have its best 4 to 6 schools taken by the SEC, Big 10, Big 12.
Louisville will not be among the 4 to 6 teams moving up because they don't belong academically. The ACC was a weak football conference, and got weaker when they added all those non Southern Big East city state schools like Miami, Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh and Louisville.--that was a fatal mistake.
Yes, I strongly dislike Louisville because of its fans who troll the AAC board. I know it's mostly one guy (Wilkie) who uses multiple handles, but there a few more.
I stand by my prediction: The ACC will start losing schools in the next few years.
Cheers!

1...Non of the 65 Schools at the Big Table will really be left out of the big table.

2. For all it faults only one P5 league has lost 4 schools this decade and it isn't the ACC...it was the Big XII-(Nebraska, Texas A&M, Missouri & Colorado) and they are from the outside looking in fighting among themselves-(FTR, IMO the Big XII isn't going anywhere either...Texas is happy controlling that league). The ACC with outside appearances doesn't have that issue...btw, not a prediction in your case but a want/wish..it is what it is....

(04-25-2016 09:18 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I don't see UNC going anywhere without Duke and probably UVA.

Exactly and nobody from the Big XII/ACC isn't going anywhere anytime soon with those GoR...

(04-25-2016 09:05 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

I believe the ACC is the weakest P5 conference by a long shot and will have its best 4 to 6 schools taken by the SEC, Big 10, Big 12.

Yet the Big XII is the conference that has it's panties in a serious wad over it's long term relevance (and even existence).

And all is quiet on the ACC front ...

... which has usually preceeded something big happening. Could this mean that Texas is soon to be coming aboard the ACC with an ND type deal?

(04-25-2016 09:26 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 09:05 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

I believe the ACC is the weakest P5 conference by a long shot and will have its best 4 to 6 schools taken by the SEC, Big 10, Big 12.

Yet the Big XII is the conference that has it's panties in a serious wad over it's long term relevance (and even existence).

And all is quiet on the ACC front ...

... which has usually preceeded something big happening. Could this mean that Texas is soon to be coming aboard the ACC with an ND type deal?

Guess the ECU BillyBobby is completely ignoring Oklahoma President David Boren saber rattling...

I think the ACC is a lot more stable than the Big12.

(04-25-2016 09:34 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think the ACC is a lot more stable than the Big12.

Both are fine....the Big XII Grant of Rights ends in 2024-2025...the ACC Ends in 2067-2027...nothing is going to happen to either league until around 2021-22 timeframe if anything.

I look at it like this: Think of the ACC not as a united conference but as a confederacy of 3 smaller conferences.

The Core of the ACC is the NC/VA alliance between UNC/NCSU/DU/WFU/UVA/VT they are highly connected politically and historically and while its not impossible (Maryland used to be part of this group) this part of the ACC is very, very stable and would not want to be anywhere else unless the conference was irreparably falling apart.

Second, we have the Northern basketball schools (Pitt, SU, BC) This group is also highly stable because they fit with the ACC's BB first mentality and because these are all rescue programs, they feel highly loyal and attached to their new home and while some might still look wistfully toward the Big 10, they are very content with the ACC overall.

The last group, the Southern Football schools, is where we find instability. This group includes FSU, UM, GT, CU and I include UL in this group as well because while UL basketball is excellent they understand that FB drives the bus and treat it accordingly. This group is the unstable element in the ACC because there is a frustration among them that their major sport plays second fiddle in the conference to MBB and that expansion has been focused on acquiring northern basketball school brands that don't help the southern football schools with their FB season ticket sales and gate revenue. Most of these schools would jump to the SEC in a heartbeat if the offer ever came.

If the NCAA gets it's way with UNC, the SEC and the B1G will stay away from Chapel Hole for quite a while.

(04-25-2016 05:54 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:50 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 07:23 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Welp, the OP is stupid. That'll never happen. Sorry. Move along.

Said the Louisville fan, after 4 threads. You are much nicer when you use the "Wilke" handle.
Cheers!

Sorry, the ACC does not want ECU

That is what it is all about...the OP is a ECU guy that wants the ACC to implode because the Pirates will never be in the league...nothing more nothing less...

And Louisville fans don't want to think about the ACC imploding bc its their seat at the table. Neither bias changes the fact that the financial disparity between the power two and the wannabe three will make some teams (FSU/Clemson) itchy.

(04-25-2016 09:55 AM)Rube Dali Wrote:  If the NCAA gets it's way with UNC, the SEC and the B1G will stay away from Chapel Hole for quite a while.

Academics for athletes has no impact for academics for the student body.

UNC academic profile is strong regardless of sports.