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Where’s The Outcry From Hillary And Bernie As Detroit Kids Die?…
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The crisis doesn’t fit the current narrative. Releasing criminals from prison far more important.

Quote:What would you call someone who stood on a street and fired a gun into a group of children playing in the spring sunshine?

A super-predator, perhaps?

Hillary Clinton is under fire for using that description in the 1990s to support her husband’s tough-on-crime bill that sought to reduce violence by locking up criminals and throwing away the key. Black Lives Matter is tossing the words in her face, charging that her husband, who once billed himself as the first black president, ruined African-American families and communities by signing the legislation.

Her opponent in the Democratic presidential contest, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, says the words “super-predator” are so obviously racist that Clinton must have used them with an intended antipathy toward African-Americans.

Meanwhile, in Detroit …

On Saturday, 6-month-old Miracle Murray was playing in the front yard of a west side home with other children and a young man. A car passed by once, and then again. On the second pass, a man stepped out, raised a gun and fired it several times.

Miracle, who got her name because she was the product of a difficult pregnancy, was hit by a bullet and killed; the 24-year-old man with her was wounded.

Detroit police arrested and released two suspects, and still believe the attack is related to an earlier deadly drive-by shooting in late March in the same neighborhood. While other children were waiting for the Easter bunny, the devil himself visited the home of 3-year-old Anaiya Montgomery. She died in her bed.

Clinton’s crime bill was overly harsh on low-level drug dealers. Still, its intent was noble — to shield children like Anaiya and Miracle from the mindless violence that swirls around the narcotics trade.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion.../83321226/
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Do you really care when Detroit kids die?
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Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.
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(04-23-2016 10:06 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Do you really care when Detroit kids die?

What kind of question is that? Another parody crack to dig trump? I'd hope so, even if poorly done.

Do you have a kid, or kids? Is there a difference when "Detroit" kids die, or Sandy Hook kids die? What makes that distinction for you?

I hope I'm reading this incorrectly. 07-coffee3
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(04-24-2016 12:29 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:06 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Do you really care when Detroit kids die?

What kind of question is that? Another parody crack to dig trump? I'd hope so, even if poorly done.

Do you have a kid, or kids? Is there a difference when "Detroit" kids die, or Sandy Hook kids die? What makes that distinction for you?

I hope I'm reading this incorrectly. 07-coffee3

It's a fair question. Not really sure if the OP really cares if Detroit kids die or is just using them a political fodder. Feels more like the later. 07-coffee3
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(04-23-2016 10:15 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.

Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.

One things for certain, a libturd mayor isnt going to get it done.
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(04-24-2016 02:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 12:29 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:06 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Do you really care when Detroit kids die?

What kind of question is that? Another parody crack to dig trump? I'd hope so, even if poorly done.

Do you have a kid, or kids? Is there a difference when "Detroit" kids die, or Sandy Hook kids die? What makes that distinction for you?

I hope I'm reading this incorrectly. 07-coffee3

It's a fair question. Not really sure if the OP really cares if Detroit kids die or is just using them a political fodder. Feels more like the later. 07-coffee3

Fair to whom? What "question"?!?

Is a Detroit kids life worth less than say a kids life in Omaha? Dubuque? Who's ever suggested such a thing?

The killing just keeps going on and on and on. But far too many would rather cast a blind eye to the real underlying problems and blame some remote boogey-man instead.

At some point we all need to simply give it up, admit the issues and the problems at hand and clearly visible, THEN maybe we can ALL get to the job of fixing them.

Until then? 07-coffee3
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Just wanted to mention that Nolan Finley is my favorite local columnist. Sensible, pragmatic, fiscal conservative and socially moderate.

His comment toward the end of the quoted section bears repeating: Rid the prisons of low-level drug dealers and users (as well as prostitutes and their "johns") and get harsher on the real lowlife murderers and rapists. Make prison a very undesirable place to be feared, not a place to gather with other gangbangers while watching TV and playing on the Internet.

Until nuclear families makes a comeback in inner-cities, or at least one responsible parent in the household, this won't stop. When a semi-absent mother has four kids before 25 years old, and those kids are being "raised" by troubled siblings and gang members in the street, and these so called parents are constantly granted victim status, well... you get Detroit as a result.

Getting past the "snitches get stitches" mentality might also help.
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(04-25-2016 01:27 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 02:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 12:29 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:06 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Do you really care when Detroit kids die?

What kind of question is that? Another parody crack to dig trump? I'd hope so, even if poorly done.

Do you have a kid, or kids? Is there a difference when "Detroit" kids die, or Sandy Hook kids die? What makes that distinction for you?

I hope I'm reading this incorrectly. 07-coffee3

It's a fair question. Not really sure if the OP really cares if Detroit kids die or is just using them a political fodder. Feels more like the later. 07-coffee3

Fair to whom? What "question"?!?

Is a Detroit kids life worth less than say a kids life in Omaha? Dubuque? Who's ever suggested such a thing?

The killing just keeps going on and on and on. But far too many would rather cast a blind eye to the real underlying problems and blame some remote boogey-man instead.

At some point we all need to simply give it up, admit the issues and the problems at hand and clearly visible, THEN maybe we can ALL get to the job of fixing them.

Until then? 07-coffee3

The OP doesn't care about kids dying, he cares about making political points in the spin room. He would never post anything about Omaha or Dubuque kids dying.
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(04-24-2016 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:15 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.

Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.

One things for certain, a libturd mayor isnt going to get it done.

Jesus Christ himself couldn't solve their problems in 7 days without using a flood.
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(04-25-2016 06:57 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Just wanted to mention that Nolan Finley is my favorite local columnist. Sensible, pragmatic, fiscal conservative and socially moderate.

Pity the R's and D's don't have anyone like that.
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(04-24-2016 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:15 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.

Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.

One things for certain, a libturd mayor isnt going to get it done.

But the GOP is the party of less government and less regulation, not more.
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(04-25-2016 10:17 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:15 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.
Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.
One things for certain, a libturd mayor isnt going to get it done.
But the GOP is the party of less government and less regulation, not more.

And less is what is needed.

Government "revitalization" efforts always spend too much money, spend too much of that money on crony favors with no accountability, and produce too little in the way of results.

Create enterprise zones, create incentives for the private sector to invest in revitalization, and you'll get ten times the bang for one tenth the buck.
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(04-24-2016 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.

Apparently gun violence isn't a current problem under decades of Democrat led Detriot government, but sure as shite if a Republican managed to get elected it'll be a “right-wing policy failure” within 30 days.
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(04-25-2016 10:21 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 10:17 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 10:15 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  Detroit is a complex situation. Let's not pretend that the solution is as simple as aligning oneself with a particular party.
Put a republican in charge there, with the controls he needs to govern, and let's hear the excuses when the place gets cleaned up real quick.
One things for certain, a libturd mayor isnt going to get it done.
But the GOP is the party of less government and less regulation, not more.

And less is what is needed.

Government "revitalization" efforts always spend too much money, spend too much of that money on crony favors with no accountability, and produce too little in the way of results.

Create enterprise zones, create incentives for the private sector to invest in revitalization, and you'll get ten times the bang for one tenth the buck.

Exactly.
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