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It is probably a history lesson in reaction. Someone at some point added a new structure to a old one. Something bad happened. Reaction is strict guidelines to avoid said bad thing. That's just a guess. But would seem to follow the idea behind putting hot as **** on all coffee cups.

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Good guess. It could also be a reaction to greedy people trying to circumvent the spirit of the law. People are so quick to blame "beaurocrats" without fully understanding the reason for regulations in the first place.

(04-24-2016 10:11 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  It is probably a history lesson in reaction. Someone at some point added a new structure to a old one. Something bad happened. Reaction is strict guidelines to avoid said bad thing. That's just a guess. But would seem to follow the idea behind putting hot as **** on all coffee cups.

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I think it's just a case of when the ADA law(s) were enacted some existing structurs (such as Foreman Field) were grandfathered, but if added to or changed they would lose that protection. The grandfather clause allowed many buildings to continue to function as they were without the owners having to spend tons of money to add wheelchair ramps, wider aisles, etc.

I wasn't intending to start a political debate, but just trying to say that I think building the suites at FF was necessary, and that the ADA laws is why I think they had to be built in the S. end zone.

(04-24-2016 08:43 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:11 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:03 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 06:15 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I didn't drink the Populous kool aid, I just browsed their body of work and came away thoroughly impressed.

Remember, ODU built that Ainslie Game Day Complex without envisioning the future needs of the football program. If the Foreman Field location is chosen, that building has to be incorporated into the new stadium design which will limit expansion. ODU cannot afford to be this shortsighted when deciding who should build the new stadium.

Yep, they really screwed the pooch on the stadium alignment with that complex.
Had it been true EW. Expansion east would be a lot easier.

They really didn't have another option as to where they could have constructed the game day building. The stadium alignment was set when it was originally constructed in the '30's, ODU brought back football at the FCS level, and the sport would never have been revived if Foreman Field wasn't already there.

-Didn't need to build the suites in the first place.

-Thought short term. If they had the belief that it would grow then they should have thought a new stadium and what that meant later.

-I hate that the school used eminent domain to expand. But when the football was revived, ODU still had the ability to go after land they wanted. The block area along Bluestone could have/should have been snatched up instead of the block south of the Ted. (Again, I hate that the school did this, but they didn't think things through back then) What isn't used for the stadium expansion could be used for tailgating lots, academic buildings, a daycare center with a bigger park to replace the one that would be lost by taking that land.

Why should ODU have snatched up the land by the stadium instead of the land by the Ted? What would they have done with it? That's taking a lot of people out of their homes just so the school could 'maybe' expand a football stadium in the vague future. The expansion along Hampton Boulevard was going to take over mostly empty plots, and was going to be used to help the University a lot more than needlessly pissing off a neighborhood ODU needs to have a good ongoing relationship with.

You might not like the fact ODU tried to take over your beloved radio store, but to insinuate that there weren't legitimate reasons behind their decisions is just foolish.

(04-24-2016 10:28 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Good guess. It could also be a reaction to greedy people trying to circumvent the spirit of the law. People are so quick to blame "beaurocrats" without fully understanding the reason for regulations in the first place.

Its pretty hard to understand them when thousands of new regulations are added to the books every year.

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(04-24-2016 10:28 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Good guess. It could also be a reaction to greedy people trying to circumvent the spirit of the law. People are so quick to blame "beaurocrats" without fully understanding the reason for regulations in the first place.

Please count me among those inclined to blame the bureaucrats. This thread offers a telling contrast:

On the one hand, we have a commercial developer who has built a business up from next to nothing and is ready and prepared to take real and meaningful steps to deliver up a stadium that is otherwise mired in inaction.

On the other hand, you have a Congressional statute that apparently required the school to waste tens of millions of donor dollars building something ultimately unneeded -- a statute that is being administered by persons whose only achievement was to land a taxpayer-funded position for which he or she virtually cannot be fired.

Yeah, I'll happily blame the bureaucrats on this one.

(04-24-2016 10:28 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 10:11 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  It is probably a history lesson in reaction. Someone at some point added a new structure to a old one. Something bad happened. Reaction is strict guidelines to avoid said bad thing. That's just a guess. But would seem to follow the idea behind putting hot as **** on all coffee cups.

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I think it's just a case of when the ADA law(s) were enacted some existing structurs (such as Foreman Field) were grandfathered, but if added to or changed they would lose that protection. The grandfather clause allowed many buildings to continue to function as they were without the owners having to spend tons of money to add wheelchair ramps, wider aisles, etc.

I wasn't intending to start a political debate, but just trying to say that I think building the suites at FF was necessary, and that the ADA laws is why I think they had to be built in the S. end zone.

I believe that's also why Colley Cantina still has crappy bathrooms even after the remodeling/new owner

(04-22-2016 06:25 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 06:16 AM)BigBlue23 Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 06:05 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:46 AM)BigBlue23 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 11:18 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  For once I'd like to see positive news come from the school in regards to the stadium. Throw the fans a fing bone at least.

It has been a relatively disappointing year as an ODU fan. I think we all could use just a sliver of good news.

If you ever need a pick-me-up, just take a stroll around JMU's board. It's like a portal into an alternate universe where ODU doesn't go to C-USA (and for the sake of argument JMU gets into FBS instead someway).

Hahaha. The Pukes are always there to make us feel better. We may have actually figured out something that they are actually good at.

When Georgia State made a bowl before us it made me sick... then I remembered how JMU fans told us about how we wouldn't get a football team and that we would never be competitive in the CAA... ODU 2 > JMU 0 As much as we like to bag on CUSA from time to time I'm glad we made the leap and aren't stuck in the CAA for the foreseeable future!

Stay the course. Your stadium turn is coming. They didn't pay Populous to not end up building/renovating a stadium.

(04-24-2016 11:15 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 08:43 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:11 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:03 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 06:15 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I didn't drink the Populous kool aid, I just browsed their body of work and came away thoroughly impressed.

Remember, ODU built that Ainslie Game Day Complex without envisioning the future needs of the football program. If the Foreman Field location is chosen, that building has to be incorporated into the new stadium design which will limit expansion. ODU cannot afford to be this shortsighted when deciding who should build the new stadium.

Yep, they really screwed the pooch on the stadium alignment with that complex.
Had it been true EW. Expansion east would be a lot easier.

They really didn't have another option as to where they could have constructed the game day building. The stadium alignment was set when it was originally constructed in the '30's, ODU brought back football at the FCS level, and the sport would never have been revived if Foreman Field wasn't already there.

-Didn't need to build the suites in the first place.

-Thought short term. If they had the belief that it would grow then they should have thought a new stadium and what that meant later.

-I hate that the school used eminent domain to expand. But when the football was revived, ODU still had the ability to go after land they wanted. The block area along Bluestone could have/should have been snatched up instead of the block south of the Ted. (Again, I hate that the school did this, but they didn't think things through back then) What isn't used for the stadium expansion could be used for tailgating lots, academic buildings, a daycare center with a bigger park to replace the one that would be lost by taking that land.

Why should ODU have snatched up the land by the stadium instead of the land by the Ted? What would they have done with it? That's taking a lot of people out of their homes just so the school could 'maybe' expand a football stadium in the vague future. The expansion along Hampton Boulevard was going to take over mostly empty plots, and was going to be used to help the University a lot more than needlessly pissing off a neighborhood ODU needs to have a good ongoing relationship with.

You might not like the fact ODU tried to take over your beloved radio store, but to insinuate that there weren't legitimate reasons behind their decisions is just foolish.

A lot of people lost their homes and businesses when ODU expanded across Hampton Blvd. It wasn't all empty lots. The area between 41st and 38th wasn't all empty and was taken over so the school could maybe expand..

http://www.waldoandlyle.com/resources/wa...wners-loss

I wasn't making reference to the Radio Station. I have nothing to do with those guys, but I am happy that they won their case and were not forced off of their land.

Hampton Blvd has an average of 35000 cars on it a day. 20k+ students on campus with that much traffic leads to people getting hit. Keeping the school on one side of Hampton Blvd would have been safer for the student body.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/10/08/u...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/12/08/man-on-skateb...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/04/16/person-hit-by...du-campus/

I can get the actual numbers from the police department if need be.

It would have made sense, that if the school was expanding at that time, and football was being restarted, to expand that campus footprint around the stadium. Even if the stadium itself wasn't envisioned to be expanded at the time. Having a place for tail gating, additional parking, and other academic related options would have been ideal.

Remember the land over on Hampton Blvd wasn't taken only for the benefit of the school. There was a shopping center planned on property that used to be peoples homes and businesses.

I'm not sure about the motives of some of our posters. You all realize that ODU is a land locked campus of approximately 250 acres. To imply that the campus should have stayed on the west side of Hampton Blvd. is comical. Like it or not, the school needs more land and the area east of Hampton Blvd. and south of the Constant Center will be acquired...by legal means and at a fair price. End of discussion.

(04-24-2016 05:17 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 11:15 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 08:43 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:11 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:03 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  Yep, they really screwed the pooch on the stadium alignment with that complex.
Had it been true EW. Expansion east would be a lot easier.

They really didn't have another option as to where they could have constructed the game day building. The stadium alignment was set when it was originally constructed in the '30's, ODU brought back football at the FCS level, and the sport would never have been revived if Foreman Field wasn't already there.

-Didn't need to build the suites in the first place.

-Thought short term. If they had the belief that it would grow then they should have thought a new stadium and what that meant later.

-I hate that the school used eminent domain to expand. But when the football was revived, ODU still had the ability to go after land they wanted. The block area along Bluestone could have/should have been snatched up instead of the block south of the Ted. (Again, I hate that the school did this, but they didn't think things through back then) What isn't used for the stadium expansion could be used for tailgating lots, academic buildings, a daycare center with a bigger park to replace the one that would be lost by taking that land.

Why should ODU have snatched up the land by the stadium instead of the land by the Ted? What would they have done with it? That's taking a lot of people out of their homes just so the school could 'maybe' expand a football stadium in the vague future. The expansion along Hampton Boulevard was going to take over mostly empty plots, and was going to be used to help the University a lot more than needlessly pissing off a neighborhood ODU needs to have a good ongoing relationship with.

You might not like the fact ODU tried to take over your beloved radio store, but to insinuate that there weren't legitimate reasons behind their decisions is just foolish.

A lot of people lost their homes and businesses when ODU expanded across Hampton Blvd. It wasn't all empty lots. The area between 41st and 38th wasn't all empty and was taken over so the school could maybe expand..

http://www.waldoandlyle.com/resources/wa...wners-loss

I wasn't making reference to the Radio Station. I have nothing to do with those guys, but I am happy that they won their case and were not forced off of their land.

Hampton Blvd has an average of 35000 cars on it a day. 20k+ students on campus with that much traffic leads to people getting hit. Keeping the school on one side of Hampton Blvd would have been safer for the student body.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/10/08/u...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/12/08/man-on-skateb...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/04/16/person-hit-by...du-campus/

I can get the actual numbers from the police department if need be.

It would have made sense, that if the school was expanding at that time, and football was being restarted, to expand that campus footprint around the stadium. Even if the stadium itself wasn't envisioned to be expanded at the time. Having a place for tail gating, additional parking, and other academic related options would have been ideal.

Remember the land over on Hampton Blvd wasn't taken only for the benefit of the school. There was a shopping center planned on property that used to be peoples homes and businesses.

The original plan was to keep ODU all on the west side of Hampton Blvd, but from what I understand, when they started to acquire land, mostly from Lamberts Point (which was way worse at the time), they pushed back with accusations of racism, because ODU also wasn't buying up Larchmont. (which obviously was much more expensive and less dangerous at the time). So the politically prudent decision was to move across the Blvd. I saw the original plans in the mid 90s. The Ted was to be approximately where the high school stadium is now and the campus was to go all the way to 38th street.

(04-24-2016 10:29 PM)monarx Wrote:  The Ted was to be approximately where the high school stadium is now and the campus was to go all the way to 38th street.

Wow I am glad the Ted ended up on Hampton Blvd, politics and all aside... For an event center as big and as busy as the Ted having it over in Powhatan could have been a disaster. More eyes see the Ted every day and the traffic going to the West end of campus would have been awful. Then again I don't know what the plans were going to be and those plans could have addressed those issues. But I think where it stands now is a prime location. It's like the argument of locating the new football stadium, if it goes to Powhatan it's out of sight but the Foreman Field location makes it seen on Hampton Blvd and could be a selling point to people wanting to watch football games. The Ted was the first thing I saw when I drove to ODU for my visit in high school and it stood out from what I remember.

(04-24-2016 10:15 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  I'm not sure about the motives of some of our posters. You all realize that ODU is a land locked campus of approximately 250 acres. To imply that the campus should have stayed on the west side of Hampton Blvd. is comical. Like it or not, the school needs more land and the area east of Hampton Blvd. and south of the Constant Center will be acquired...by legal means and at a fair price. End of discussion.

Yes I realize the school is landlocked.
I just don't happen to worship ODU. I find it the abuse of ED for the schools expansion was sicking. I say abuse because that is exactly what was going on. The school did not have the authority to take the land as it was not going to be be for the sole use of the school. People lost their homes and business so new businesses could be put there instead. Before the law change, did you know that in the city of Norfolk, you can lose your house because your neighbors property has been deem blighted? Again I can pull up specifics later. It might still be on the books with an adjustment after the 2012 vote.

160 + properties were taken so the school could expand.
There was no mandate for the school to do so. It's land locked, so what? SO is NYU and Columbia and other urban schools such as VCU. Land in Suffolk is cheap. School could have opened a new campus out that direction and go as big as they wanted.

The last time I looked into it, Norva Plastics was still willing to move. They just want to be bought out at a fair price. Part of the damages they were won after ODU had started charging them rent for staying on the land was due to being offered 2.1 million but they were worth 3.5 million. I think they were awarded the 3.5 million but were allowed to stay. Again, specifics can be dug up later. So the fair price of your statement doesn't hold water. I can also find many examples of people given offers below the current market value and the taxed assessed value. (The government should at least offer the taxed value as that is what they say it's worth...)

The Radio Company wanted their property to be used for only school purposes and they wanted help moving into a place that was as good as a location as they are in now. I think the grocery store was going to go on their land. Being right on Hampton Blvd is excellent for their business. Never mind the downtime and loss of contracts they would have to deal with due to a disruption of such a move. They are now operating under a mentality that they will never move now due to how the city and the school conducted themselves.

I think Eminent Domain is still on the table for the school to expand, but they are restricted now in that it has to be 100% for the use of the school. I'd have to look up specifics to verify that.

My opinion remains, when the school was expanding they should have grabbed the land around the stadium. Even if it wasn't to expand and they didn't have a desire to do so. Putting up new buildings around have helped muffle some of the noise on game day, and would give a buffer from the fans and peoples homes.

As for my intentions, I'll cheer the kids playing and I hope they are successful both on the field and off.

(04-24-2016 05:17 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 11:15 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 08:43 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:11 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:03 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  Yep, they really screwed the pooch on the stadium alignment with that complex.
Had it been true EW. Expansion east would be a lot easier.

They really didn't have another option as to where they could have constructed the game day building. The stadium alignment was set when it was originally constructed in the '30's, ODU brought back football at the FCS level, and the sport would never have been revived if Foreman Field wasn't already there.

-Didn't need to build the suites in the first place.

-Thought short term. If they had the belief that it would grow then they should have thought a new stadium and what that meant later.

-I hate that the school used eminent domain to expand. But when the football was revived, ODU still had the ability to go after land they wanted. The block area along Bluestone could have/should have been snatched up instead of the block south of the Ted. (Again, I hate that the school did this, but they didn't think things through back then) What isn't used for the stadium expansion could be used for tailgating lots, academic buildings, a daycare center with a bigger park to replace the one that would be lost by taking that land.

Why should ODU have snatched up the land by the stadium instead of the land by the Ted? What would they have done with it? That's taking a lot of people out of their homes just so the school could 'maybe' expand a football stadium in the vague future. The expansion along Hampton Boulevard was going to take over mostly empty plots, and was going to be used to help the University a lot more than needlessly pissing off a neighborhood ODU needs to have a good ongoing relationship with.

You might not like the fact ODU tried to take over your beloved radio store, but to insinuate that there weren't legitimate reasons behind their decisions is just foolish.

A lot of people lost their homes and businesses when ODU expanded across Hampton Blvd. It wasn't all empty lots. The area between 41st and 38th wasn't all empty and was taken over so the school could maybe expand..

http://www.waldoandlyle.com/resources/wa...wners-loss

I wasn't making reference to the Radio Station. I have nothing to do with those guys, but I am happy that they won their case and were not forced off of their land.

Hampton Blvd has an average of 35000 cars on it a day. 20k+ students on campus with that much traffic leads to people getting hit. Keeping the school on one side of Hampton Blvd would have been safer for the student body.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/10/08/u...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/12/08/man-on-skateb...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/04/16/person-hit-by...du-campus/

I can get the actual numbers from the police department if need be.

It would have made sense, that if the school was expanding at that time, and football was being restarted, to expand that campus footprint around the stadium. Even if the stadium itself wasn't envisioned to be expanded at the time. Having a place for tail gating, additional parking, and other academic related options would have been ideal.

Remember the land over on Hampton Blvd wasn't taken only for the benefit of the school. There was a shopping center planned on property that used to be peoples homes and businesses.

Forgive my ignorance, I didn't realize there was housing when ODU acquired the land. When I got to ODU it was just a bunch of grass and some trees. I think they tore down a few of the other buildings when I was there, but by that time they were nothing special.

I still think that ODU may have made the right decision at the time though, in terms of which lands to acquire. Unfortunately, eminent domain is a bit of an ugly business, no matter the circumstances. I think politically, ODU needed to have Larchmont on their side. Taking land there would have added real estate more towards the core of ODU, but at a big financial and political cost.

It's one of the reasons why I'm worried about putting the new stadium at Foreman Field. I think we'll only get one shot at taking land there before public relations sour real bad, so it'd probably have to come with a lot of concessions.

(04-25-2016 02:07 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Forgive my ignorance, I didn't realize there was housing when ODU acquired the land. When I got to ODU it was just a bunch of grass and some trees. I think they tore down a few of the other buildings when I was there, but by that time they were nothing special.

I still think that ODU may have made the right decision at the time though, in terms of which lands to acquire. Unfortunately, eminent domain is a bit of an ugly business, no matter the circumstances. I think politically, ODU needed to have Larchmont on their side. Taking land there would have added real estate more towards the core of ODU, but at a big financial and political cost.

It's one of the reasons why I'm worried about putting the new stadium at Foreman Field. I think we'll only get one shot at taking land there before public relations sour real bad, so it'd probably have to come with a lot of concessions.

It's cool. Appreciate your comments. I get a little but hurt when it comes to ED. I've had family members lose their businesses so other businesses could take over the property. And I've read enough horror stories about how people get the shaft in these deals.

But going back to the stadium.

I would like to see the stadium on Hampton blvd. I know it's not being looked at, but the school already has the land and could make it work. I know I'm not the only one as I've found quite a few posts going a few years back with the same thoughts. It puts it in plain sight for everyone to see. There are parking lots close by too.

Looking forward to see what gets put out to the BOV. It's just too bad it wont be done in time for the VT game.

Went by Kauffman Hall today to see the Seniors presenting their projects. Was hoping some of the CE guys would have taken a stab at the stadium. Saw a few robots, the baja car, and a unique shopping mall for Chesapeake. No stadium.

(04-24-2016 10:29 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 05:17 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 11:15 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 08:43 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 10:11 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  They really didn't have another option as to where they could have constructed the game day building. The stadium alignment was set when it was originally constructed in the '30's, ODU brought back football at the FCS level, and the sport would never have been revived if Foreman Field wasn't already there.

-Didn't need to build the suites in the first place.

-Thought short term. If they had the belief that it would grow then they should have thought a new stadium and what that meant later.

-I hate that the school used eminent domain to expand. But when the football was revived, ODU still had the ability to go after land they wanted. The block area along Bluestone could have/should have been snatched up instead of the block south of the Ted. (Again, I hate that the school did this, but they didn't think things through back then) What isn't used for the stadium expansion could be used for tailgating lots, academic buildings, a daycare center with a bigger park to replace the one that would be lost by taking that land.

Why should ODU have snatched up the land by the stadium instead of the land by the Ted? What would they have done with it? That's taking a lot of people out of their homes just so the school could 'maybe' expand a football stadium in the vague future. The expansion along Hampton Boulevard was going to take over mostly empty plots, and was going to be used to help the University a lot more than needlessly pissing off a neighborhood ODU needs to have a good ongoing relationship with.

You might not like the fact ODU tried to take over your beloved radio store, but to insinuate that there weren't legitimate reasons behind their decisions is just foolish.

A lot of people lost their homes and businesses when ODU expanded across Hampton Blvd. It wasn't all empty lots. The area between 41st and 38th wasn't all empty and was taken over so the school could maybe expand..

http://www.waldoandlyle.com/resources/wa...wners-loss

I wasn't making reference to the Radio Station. I have nothing to do with those guys, but I am happy that they won their case and were not forced off of their land.

Hampton Blvd has an average of 35000 cars on it a day. 20k+ students on campus with that much traffic leads to people getting hit. Keeping the school on one side of Hampton Blvd would have been safer for the student body.

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/10/08/u...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/12/08/man-on-skateb...boulevard/
http://wtkr.com/2015/04/16/person-hit-by...du-campus/

I can get the actual numbers from the police department if need be.

It would have made sense, that if the school was expanding at that time, and football was being restarted, to expand that campus footprint around the stadium. Even if the stadium itself wasn't envisioned to be expanded at the time. Having a place for tail gating, additional parking, and other academic related options would have been ideal.

Remember the land over on Hampton Blvd wasn't taken only for the benefit of the school. There was a shopping center planned on property that used to be peoples homes and businesses.

The original plan was to keep ODU all on the west side of Hampton Blvd, but from what I understand, when they started to acquire land, mostly from Lamberts Point (which was way worse at the time), they pushed back with accusations of racism, because ODU also wasn't buying up Larchmont. (which obviously was much more expensive and less dangerous at the time). So the politically prudent decision was to move across the Blvd. I saw the original plans in the mid 90s. The Ted was to be approximately where the high school stadium is now and the campus was to go all the way to 38th street.

While I'm sure this was one of the reasons why they were blocked from moving south, from what I remember at the time, another major factor for why they moved east were the 3-4 churches located in the Lamberts Point neighborhood that were not necessarily subject to eminent domain.

Reading this thread, we are in a very similar position.

The good news for you guys is that you received proposals and have an idea of costs.

We also need to expand and conference affiliation will greatly speed up the process.
Heard about an IPF facility and McGuirk expansion for some time and the poster boards are a year old.

This is what McGuirk looks like. The side with the band on the right, is the side we pray they blow-up and build a new FBS side with all the amenities you'd expect.


There is very limited seating the Press and Sky box on the left side. In the distance is the Football Performance Center. Both items cost us around 37 Million and guess we had to finance around 30 Mill. Back to the Football Performance Center, there is a big hospitality room and a nice deck area. (You need to donate at the 3.5k level for passes up there.)

Mind you these are just posters and have not heard much in a year.


Notice last year's MAC schedule with this one.


Good luck and you guys look like you are further along on the process.
Looking forward to the trip to ODU this fall.

(04-26-2016 02:36 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Reading this thread, we are in a very similar position.

The good news for you guys is that you received proposals and have an idea of costs.

We also need to expand and conference affiliation will greatly speed up the process.
Heard about an IPF facility and McGuirk expansion for some time and the poster boards are a year old.

This is what McGuirk looks like. The side with the band on the right, is the side we pray they blow-up and build a new FBS side with all the amenities you'd expect.


There is very limited seating the Press and Sky box on the left side. In the distance is the Football Performance Center. Both items cost us around 37 Million and guess we had to finance around 30 Mill. Back to the Football Performance Center, there is a big hospitality room and a nice deck area. (You need to donate at the 3.5k level for passes up there.)

Mind you these are just posters and have not heard much in a year.


Notice last year's MAC schedule with this one.


Good luck and you guys look like you are further along on the process.
Looking forward to the trip to ODU this fall.

Rooting for both UMass and ODU to get this figured out.