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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
Both sides of this issue has merit. I'm sure the Lawsons have weighed all aspects of it. My opinion is Dedric has nothing to lose my testing the waters as much as I'd like to see him stay a Tiger and play along side KJ. I think it's a cool thing for brothers to play at the same time. Cool for the media attention, the fans, the Lawson family and the team. The NBA powers that be are much more capable of making an analysis of this young man than most of us. If he stays he may not have as good a year stat wise which could lower his stock, but a good summer on the weights and shooting reps should improve him. I just hope the NBA guys don't blow him up then not draft him or late second round which is possible. It happened to the kid from Miss State a few years ago. There are too many foreign players drafted which cuts his odds down. Lots to consider for the Lawsons.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

The question is - would those NBDL guys have had more success by staying in college? I'm not sure the development is at a higher rate for college guys, than it is for guys in the NBDL or overseas. So those multitude of guys not getting called up, probably wouldn't have made it had they stayed in college 4 years. So if you can get the contract now, get the contract now.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 10:51 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

The question is - would those NBDL guys have had more success by staying in college? I'm not sure the development is at a higher rate for college guys, than it is for guys in the NBDL or overseas. So those multitude of guys not getting called up, probably wouldn't have made it had they stayed in college 4 years. So if you can get the contract now, get the contract now.

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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 11:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.

Right - so 7 out of 30.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 11:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  SMH

It has NOTHING to do with being ready right now.

NOTHING

^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.

The top 13 guys in the draft were all pretty solid. It was an excellent draft last year, at least in the lottery. Hezonja filled in nicely when injuries hit the Heat, Stanley Johnson was only 19 years old, but looks like a beast going forward. Kaminsky was a solid reserve for the Hornets. Okafor was on an awful team, but averaged 17 and 7. Trey Liles started 33 games for the Jazz.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 11:33 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 11:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  ^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.

The top 13 guys in the draft were all pretty solid. It was an excellent draft last year, at least in the lottery. Hezonja filled in nicely when injuries hit the Heat, Stanley Johnson was only 19 years old, but looks like a beast going forward. Kaminsky was a solid reserve for the Hornets. Okafor was on an awful team, but averaged 17 and 7. Trey Liles started 33 games for the Jazz.

You are right-I follow NBA closely and way more than 7 had an impact in their rookie season. Solid draft last year-not so much this year IMO.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
I'd love to be wrong on this, but Lawson seems more like a journeyman NBA type. Rather like Dorsey has been, maybe.

Joey's made some good money in the NBA, D-League, Greece, etc.

But as with Joey, Dedric doesn't seem (to me, at least) to have "it" to be an every night NBA player. And I am not sure that what he lacks will improve with more time in College, so if he can get paid good money in this year's kinda weak draft, then more power to him. If not, He'll be the centerpiece of a re-energized team next season.
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 11:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 11:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 03:11 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  ^ Can't believe folks don't get this.

It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.

Right - so 7 out of 30.

Did you watch or keep up with the NBA regular season?
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RE: VERNON: Dedric very likely could be a first rounder this year
(04-26-2016 02:43 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 11:03 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 11:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 10:55 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 06:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  It has everything to do with being ready if the player wants to make an immediate impact & be a star. If the goal is to be drafted, make a paycheck for a few years, drift around the NBDL, some time in the NBA & maybe make it several years later or not at all, then sure it has nothing to do with being ready. Someone has already posted the few that get called up from the NBDL & most of those are on 10-day contracts that rarely turn into an NBA career. The possible exception is for a big banger who can clog the middle, and Dedric ain't one.

Again - how many of the first round projections are "ready"?

How many last year made a true impact?

Towns, Russell, Porzingis, Mudiay, Winslow, Booker. Probably Myles Turner too.

Right - so 7 out of 30.

Did you watch or keep up with the NBA regular season?

SMH

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