I thought of doing something more dramatic. Like ALL CAPS. Or take some posting lessons from Luckeyone (think I did.)

Freep has an article on the presumed new UDM coach, Bacari Alexander.

I am quoting the article re: the terms of the new contract:

"He is expected to receive a seven-year deal that will pay between $450,000 and $475,000 per year, according to one person familiar with the negotiations."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/colleg.../83326988/

Based on that, maybe Murphy walks into Heather's office and say, "Heather, can EMU spare another 50K, 100K, or more?"

All of that said, UDM apparently is going ALL IN (all caps) to improve their MBB program. I'm sure this is because of the "Oakland Effect". UDM has to go head to head with their rival to the North, Oakland.

Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

Alexander hasn't won one Horizon League game yet.

It's nice to be hopeful but sports isn't like much of commercial business where the marketing department can crank out advertising saying that a sow's ear is really a silk purse.

As others have noted, the most successful EMU basketball coach of the modern era was a coach who had a very light resume and moved over one seat. That would be Ben Braun, kind of an 'accidental' head coach taking over for a fired coach, mid-season.

Tons of big name coaches fail.

One comes to mind: Brian Gregory of the MSU Izzo coaching family. He was successful until Ga. Tech and then got fired last month.

I wish someone would bet me a steak dinner on the conference records of EMU and UDM this year...

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

That's really done wonders for UofD lately. Apart from the year when McCallum's All-American son was on the team (who never would've played there otherwise), they haven't exactly lit the world on fire. Maybe Alexander should focus on recruiting out of the area too

I can see why Detroit would never schedule with Murphy until last season. Can't wait to play them (and beat them) again.

BTW, whenever Murphy leaves EMU, through his choice or otherwise, Heather can take Murphy's salary and add say 50 - 100K to it for the next coach...

We need an EMU_Steve Metric (for mid-major schools): HC_Salary divided by # of conference wins... (Cost/Conference win).

Alexander better win say 12 (or 13) Horizon League games (18 game conf. schedule) within a couple years at his salary.

Don't pay a coach $450K to go .500 in conference in the Horizon League (mid major level).

BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

(04-22-2016 09:35 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

That's really done wonders for UofD lately. Apart from the year when McCallum's All-American son was on the team (who never would've played there otherwise), they haven't exactly lit the world on fire. Maybe Alexander should focus on recruiting out of the area too

I can see why Detroit would never schedule with Murphy until last season. Can't wait to play them (and beat them) again.

Yeah but McCallum made the NCAA, won the conference and got them to the NIT in 8 years. What has Murphy done in 5? Any of those? Thought so.

(04-22-2016 04:40 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

Alexander hasn't won one Horizon League game yet.

It's nice to be hopeful but sports isn't like much of commercial business where the marketing department can crank out advertising saying that a sow's ear is really a silk purse.

As others have noted, the most successful EMU basketball coach of the modern era was a coach who had a very light resume and moved over one seat. That would be Ben Braun, kind of an 'accidental' head coach taking over for a fired coach, mid-season.

Tons of big name coaches fail.

One comes to mind: Brian Gregory of the MSU Izzo coaching family. He was successful until Ga. Tech and then got fired last month.

I wish someone would bet me a steak dinner on the conference records of EMU and UDM this year...

Well then Murphy as an established coach should have it all over Alexander the shiny new penny recruiting wise shouldn't he?

(04-22-2016 01:28 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 09:35 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

That's really done wonders for UofD lately. Apart from the year when McCallum's All-American son was on the team (who never would've played there otherwise), they haven't exactly lit the world on fire. Maybe Alexander should focus on recruiting out of the area too

I can see why Detroit would never schedule with Murphy until last season. Can't wait to play them (and beat them) again.

Yeah but McCallum made the NCAA, won the conference and got them to the NIT in 8 years. What has Murphy done in 5? Any of those? Thought so.

Why did McCallum do those things because of his coach or his biological gift, his son, to the school?

Did McCallum win big without his son?

Murphy's son is too young...

I appreciate the fact that Murphy casts his recruiting net far and wide. There are other hotbeds of basketball talent outside the Detroit Metro area. Now if Murphy and staff can just locate a back up/starting PG. The 2016-2017 team will be something to watch.

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Hmmm, fans may remember that a certain living legend, Lorenzo Neely was an assistant coach at both U-M and WMU. And did I mention that he accomplished something that will never happen again in our lifetimes?...leading EMU to a "Sweet 16" appearance? One thing that EMU does a terrible job of is reaching out to it's legends. There is a disconnect between the football and basketball programs and the legendary players of the past.

(04-22-2016 05:10 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Hmmm, fans may remember that a certain living legend, Lorenzo Neely was an assistant coach at both U-M and WMU. And did I mention that he accomplished something that will never happen again in our lifetimes?...leading EMU to a "Sweet 16" appearance? One thing that EMU does a terrible job of is reaching out to it's legends. There is a disconnect between the football and basketball programs and the legendary players of the past.

Neely had issues which derailed a promising coaching career. His coaching career went backwards.

His career is extremely difficult to follow: it seemed like a roller coaster.

EMU, UofM, WMU, Wayne State, Cal-Berkeley, then Wayne State (?).

http://www.wsuathletics.com/coaches.aspx...ath=mbball

(04-22-2016 05:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:10 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Hmmm, fans may remember that a certain living legend, Lorenzo Neely was an assistant coach at both U-M and WMU. And did I mention that he accomplished something that will never happen again in our lifetimes?...leading EMU to a "Sweet 16" appearance? One thing that EMU does a terrible job of is reaching out to it's legends. There is a disconnect between the football and basketball programs and the legendary players of the past.

Neely had issues which derailed a promising coaching career. His coaching career went backwards.

His career is extremely difficult to follow: it seemed like a roller coaster.

EMU, UofM, WMU, Wayne State, Cal-Berkeley, then Wayne State (?).

http://www.wsuathletics.com/coaches.aspx...ath=mbball

That's right, forgot about Cal-Berkeley...he is still my all time favorite Huron/Eagle, with all apologies to Earl and Grant.

(04-22-2016 05:58 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:15 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:10 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Hmmm, fans may remember that a certain living legend, Lorenzo Neely was an assistant coach at both U-M and WMU. And did I mention that he accomplished something that will never happen again in our lifetimes?...leading EMU to a "Sweet 16" appearance? One thing that EMU does a terrible job of is reaching out to it's legends. There is a disconnect between the football and basketball programs and the legendary players of the past.

Neely had issues which derailed a promising coaching career. His coaching career went backwards.

His career is extremely difficult to follow: it seemed like a roller coaster.

EMU, UofM, WMU, Wayne State, Cal-Berkeley, then Wayne State (?).

http://www.wsuathletics.com/coaches.aspx...ath=mbball

That's right, forgot about Cal-Berkeley...he is still my all time favorite Huron/Eagle, with all apologies to Earl and Grant.

Yep, he lost jobs at UofM and Cal-Berkeley.

BTW, got to remember folks that Charles Ramsey, a hometown favorite (our version of Bacari Alexander) was -26 games in the MAC during his tenure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ra...asketball)

Rob Murphy is dead even in MAC regular season games (and has won a number of MAC tourney games. Did Ramsey's teams win any MAC tourney games).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Murphy_(basketball)

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Charles Thomas has been a Dambrot assistant at Akron for the past few years.

(04-23-2016 09:25 AM)EMU03 Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, for those who will salivate at Bacari Alexander, given his ties to UDM (and UofM).

Reminder: EMU does not have an alum coaching at say UofM, MSU, etc.

EMU's MBB (I'm talking players) has NOT produced a D-I assistant coach since God know when.

Most of our fmr players (who coach now) are coaching in JUCO, high school, etc. No where ready for the big time coaching.

If in 5 - 7 years, Tim Bond becomes a DOBO, I'd be delighted.

If in 10 years, a D-I assistant coach, I'd be delighted.

If in 15 years, he becomes an EMU HC, I'd be very delighted.

#KeepTheSeatWarm

Charles Thomas has been a Dambrot assistant at Akron for the past few years.

I thought of him after I posted. Yes, you are correct. My omission.

My general point is that greats like Boykins, Dial, Tolbert, Long, etc. have not become collegiate coaches.

If say Derrick Dial would have gone into coaching EMU fans would welcome him home with open arms. Ditto Boykins.

(04-22-2016 09:35 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 01:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 03:49 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 12:50 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Murphy would be worth the extra money if we can win the MAC or go to the NIT (non pay tournament). I wish he and his staff going on six year would be able to recruit Div I Michigan high school talent to EMU.

Bacari Alexander has won zero Horizon, MAC, etc. games and getting a ton of $.

BTW, I saw a Tweet: Murphy was hired 5 years ago today...

Its called perception of value. He'll rake in the top local talent while we continue to struggle to recruit within 50 miles of campus.

That's really done wonders for UofD lately. Apart from the year when McCallum's All-American son was on the team (who never would've played there otherwise), they haven't exactly lit the world on fire. Maybe Alexander should focus on recruiting out of the area too

I can see why Detroit would never schedule with Murphy until last season. Can't wait to play them (and beat them) again.

BTW, Ray McCallum's record at UDM was 'under water' (below .500). He had a NCAA and NIT appearance when Ray jr. was there but OVERALL his conference record was < .500. (Murphy is .500, exactly).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McCallum

BTW, guys, I'm more worried about EMU FB and EMU WBB than EMU MBB.

In WBB, we don't have any centers nor a HC.