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Nice write up on Jamie Braverman....ugh

Jamie is his father

Was just about to post that Jamie is his dad. Beat me to it.

(04-21-2016 03:57 AM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Nice write up on Jamie Braverman....ugh

It is a nice writeup. Jamie, his father, certainly played a significant role in his development by hooking him up with a development coach at a very early age.

The headline makes you think Jamie is the nice catch. Drr.

*edit* Made...they fixed it.

Maybe I will get trashed for saying this, but after watching so many psycho sports parents over the years, who just know their kid is going to make the big leagues because they have so so so much talent, and who spend 50% of the family income on private coaches and trainers and expensive travel leagues, I am turned off by a piece which seemingly promotes this type of behavior.

My son was a good athlete, played sports throughout each year, and earned eight varsity letters, with all conference and all district first team honors, but other than a few bucks a few years to participate in an independent type travel basketball team, and a few college baseball clinics, we didn't spend much at all. Several families have gone broke on this other stuff, and went all in on sports. Now these kids are seniors, and honestly, I can see that the parents are desperate to find some vision for their kids, because the colleges aren't calling.

Braverman dad let someone else decide where his kid would go to high school, and it had nothing to do with academics. Maybe it will work out for him, and I hope it does, but I am sure daddy also encouraged leaving WMU early, without a degree. This is a father living his dream life through his son I think, and that's great if it works out, but Far more often it won't.

We pushed our kids academically. That is generally where the money is, and less career ending injuries too.

(04-22-2016 05:37 AM)brovol Wrote:  Maybe I will get trashed for saying this, but after watching so many psycho sports parents over the years, who just know their kid is going to make the big leagues because they have so so so much talent, and who spend 50% of the family income on private coaches and trainers and expensive travel leagues, I am turned off by a piece which seemingly promotes this type of behavior.

My son was a good athlete, played sports throughout each year, and earned eight varsity letters, with all conference and all district first team honors, but other than a few bucks a few years to participate in an independent type travel basketball team, and a few college baseball clinics, we didn't spend much at all. Several families have gone broke on this other stuff, and went all in on sports. Now these kids are seniors, and honestly, I can see that the parents are desperate to find some vision for their kids, because the colleges aren't calling.

Braverman dad let someone else decide where his kid would go to high school, and it had nothing to do with academics. Maybe it will work out for him, and I hope it does, but I am sure daddy also encouraged leaving WMU early, without a degree. This is a father living his dream life through his son I think, and that's great if it works out, but Far more often it won't.

We pushed our kids academically. That is generally where the money is, and less career ending injuries too.

Good post and spot-on!

There are considerably more scholarships available for academic merit, than athletic.

The $ spent on private coaches for sports and camps in middle school and high school would be better off spent on ACT/SAT prep classes and academic tutoring. More bang for the buck.

I'd rather my child be in the honor's college than a D-I athletic team.

(04-22-2016 07:44 AM)GullLake Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:37 AM)brovol Wrote:  Maybe I will get trashed for saying this, but after watching so many psycho sports parents over the years, who just know their kid is going to make the big leagues because they have so so so much talent, and who spend 50% of the family income on private coaches and trainers and expensive travel leagues, I am turned off by a piece which seemingly promotes this type of behavior.

My son was a good athlete, played sports throughout each year, and earned eight varsity letters, with all conference and all district first team honors, but other than a few bucks a few years to participate in an independent type travel basketball team, and a few college baseball clinics, we didn't spend much at all. Several families have gone broke on this other stuff, and went all in on sports. Now these kids are seniors, and honestly, I can see that the parents are desperate to find some vision for their kids, because the colleges aren't calling.

Braverman dad let someone else decide where his kid would go to high school, and it had nothing to do with academics. Maybe it will work out for him, and I hope it does, but I am sure daddy also encouraged leaving WMU early, without a degree. This is a father living his dream life through his son I think, and that's great if it works out, but Far more often it won't.

We pushed our kids academically. That is generally where the money is, and less career ending injuries too.

Good post and spot-on!

There are considerably more scholarships available for academic merit, than athletic.

The $ spent on private coaches for sports and camps in middle school and high school would be better off spent on ACT/SAT prep classes and academic tutoring. More bang for the buck.

I'd rather my child be in the honor's college than a D-I athletic team.

Not to mention, a kid knows that the parent puts more value, and takes more pride in the athletic accomplishments. It sends a terrible message. It also puts a lot of pressure on the kid, and has to eliminate much of the enjoyment with playing sports. I understand that it is, to a certain extent, human instinct to get on your child when you want him or her to perform better. I have done it myself too many times, and come to think of it just yesterday yelled at him to quit biting on the curve in the dirt (grrrrr). But so many parents are nuts with the sports.

Folks in my neck of the woods "greenhouse" their kids before sending them to kindergarden, not to be sure that the child is prepared intellectually, but because it will give the kid an advantage athletically if he or she is a year older. Several though we were nuts to start our son early, but he did great academically, and did more than hold his own athletically. He would have been perhaps the top athlete in the class after him had we waited a year, but we have no regrets at all, and either does he. He had a fantastic athletic experience throughout his youth, and wasn't going to be a D1 athlete regardless. (Although he does plan to try out for West Point Army soccer team, he has no expectancy there).

Folks loose perspective, and I think the article trends to promote that, or at least it strikes me wrong in that respect.

....another unrelated point. I agree with your point Gull on the money being better spent on ACT prep. I will say though that the study books work real well too. My son went from a 29 to a 32, with 34's in both math and science, using two books only. He says he learned more from the books than from teachers in HS.