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Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.
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RE: Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
I don't know about all that stuff, but I had a former college coach at one NAIA school in Georgia tell me something kinda funny about the team's baseball and softball program. Seems he had a varsity with say 15 players (I can't remember how many he said he carried) and a JV with more than 30, and softball was the same way. Turns out the school was 'signing' kids for the tuition money, whether they could play or not.
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RE: Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
(04-20-2016 04:25 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.
If that's all thats needed, then ban all camps other than that one hosted by neutral stat recorders. No on-campus. No in-state. No interactions necessary.

Just go down the list and make offers based on the raw data and whoever sends in their NLI is your team.
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(04-25-2016 04:21 PM)gsu95 Wrote:  I don't know about all that stuff, but I had a former college coach at one NAIA school in Georgia tell me something kinda funny about the team's baseball and softball program. Seems he had a varsity with say 15 players (I can't remember how many he said he carried) and a JV with more than 30, and softball was the same way. Turns out the school was 'signing' kids for the tuition money, whether they could play or not.

Ever play a D3 team in basketball? Look at their team on the bench. The D1 team has 12-14 guys on the bench, if the D3 team didn't have to travel far they have like 20-25 players on the bench. Some of them on the far end of the bench look like they couldn't play HS ball. And when the D1 team gets up by 40 late in the game they usually put some of those kids in.

It seems anyone that is willing to practice and pay tuition can play at many of these really small schools.
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RE: Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
(04-20-2016 04:25 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.

Legit question for you... Does your own statement not make you stop and realize something? "mostly from Georgia"... Why would that be do you think? I mean ATL is a huge city regionally and therefore one of the SPARQ sites. Being such a high end recruiting draw, you'd think we'd see boatloads of surrounding state kids pouring in. So why not? Could it be many don't have the parents, money, or travel time to make it? Hmmm.

The point people seem to miss is its not about the 8% or whatever number of fixed FBS schollys there are. That number is going to stay the same, ban or no ban. It's about "which" 8%. If you think a ban won't hurt kids in the lower financial strata, through requiring more out of pocket spend, and increasing privatization of camps, I don't know what to tell you. It will also create geographic inequities between urban and rural kids, or east coast vs midlands based on travel distances.
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RE: Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
(04-25-2016 10:32 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  
(04-20-2016 04:25 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.

Legit question for you... Does your own statement not make you stop and realize something? "mostly from Georgia"... Why would that be do you think? I mean ATL is a huge city regionally and therefore one of the SPARQ sites. Being such a high end recruiting draw, you'd think we'd see boatloads of surrounding state kids pouring in. So why not? Could it be many don't have the parents, money, or travel time to make it? Hmmm.

The point people seem to miss is its not about the 8% or whatever number of fixed FBS schollys there are. That number is going to stay the same, ban or no ban. It's about "which" 8%. If you think a ban won't hurt kids in the lower financial strata, through requiring more out of pocket spend, and increasing privatization of camps, I don't know what to tell you. It will also create geographic inequities between urban and rural kids, or east coast vs midlands based on travel distances.

There is a big difference between getting your chance and not making it...and not getting your chance.
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RE: Atlanta Nike Sparq has data for 1,943 prospects and only 175 will get FBS scholarship
(04-20-2016 04:25 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.

Generally speaking, schools will not offer a kid based on their Sparq camp numbers. They need to see them in person.

That's not going to change without satellite camps. Almost every one of those 175 kids went into a schools camp later in the year...that's where they got their offer.

If anything, I bet those numbers go down next year without satellite camps.
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And how many of the 1,943 received FCS offers? Combine that with FBS offers and then start talking. This whole mess is about the SEC being a bunch of pansies, mainly Saban, not wanting kids to go up north like they use too. Hat aught and Meyer will have the big 2 rolling again really soon and Bama doesn't want their media dominance infringed upon.
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So this is a ground hog day thing I see. Folks in talent rich areas making it out to be ALL about Mich's of the world making it an out of control arms race and those in crappy football states trying to float they really care about kids and thousands of poor kids will never get the chance to play college ball.

TRUTH: Talent rich areas are scared to lose one kid to rivals and crappy football areas live off of out of state talent and are scared they might start losing an additional game or two if that life line is cut off. Neither group really gives one crap about the actual kids. Just making hypocritical mountains out of molehills.
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I'm glad we don't offer kids based solely on their power numbers, that would be dumb. So I'm going to have to disagree with the OP. Nike Sparq camps are good for maybe getting a kids name on the map... but every coach should still want to evaluate that kid in person.
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(04-26-2016 07:19 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  So this is a ground hog day thing I see. Folks in talent rich areas making it out to be ALL about Mich's of the world making it an out of control arms race and those in crappy football states trying to float they really care about kids and thousands of poor kids will never get the chance to play college ball.

TRUTH: Talent rich areas are scared to lose one kid to rivals and crappy football areas live off of out of state talent and are scared they might start losing an additional game or two if that life line is cut off. Neither group really gives one crap about the actual kids. Just making hypocritical mountains out of molehills.

Yep, for the most part.

But someone has to step back and try to figure out what is good for amateur college athletics as a whole.

Nobody is doing that.
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The question I keep asking isn't why college athletics are important. I think they are, within reason. It's why they have to be bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and more and more and more and more important.

To think there are schools with athletic department budgets of more than $100 million. It's weird.
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(04-26-2016 08:45 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 07:19 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  So this is a ground hog day thing I see. Folks in talent rich areas making it out to be ALL about Mich's of the world making it an out of control arms race and those in crappy football states trying to float they really care about kids and thousands of poor kids will never get the chance to play college ball.

TRUTH: Talent rich areas are scared to lose one kid to rivals and crappy football areas live off of out of state talent and are scared they might start losing an additional game or two if that life line is cut off. Neither group really gives one crap about the actual kids. Just making hypocritical mountains out of molehills.

Yep, for the most part.

But someone has to step back and try to figure out what is good for amateur college athletics as a whole.

Nobody is doing that.

They have not done that since title IX lol and never will again. I am neutral as the vast majority of kids want to play within driving distance from home so camps no camps GS will be fine. Unlimited camps where team like Mich make it an arms race once again is not good. Neither is shutting camps down altogether for a small amount of kids that are off the radar and might pick a low G5 or FCS scholarship.

I am just calling BS on both sides hiding behind crap moral high grounds when they really only care about winning.

Also it was the ACC that pushed for the complete ban the SEC had a different proposal that would just limit them according the ESPN report I just saw.
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(04-20-2016 04:25 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.studentsports.com/football/20...results-2/

Per the link above 1,943 prospects mostly from Georgia were able to reach the Nike Sparq camp.The camp records all important athletic measurables.

How are kids not getting access when we can see 2,000 have all their data available in a state that has 175 FBS signees? Right here we have an example of 2,000 kids that will be fighting for 175 scholarships. Only 8% have a shot and this is just one camp! I don't think there is a college in the country that reviews that many applications for spots available. Nobody that is trying to be found is falling through the cracks.

2000 are not fighting for 175 scholarships. Most are not FBS level talent. More likely 300 are fighting for 175 scholarships.
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