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Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
Bargain basement prices. At that salary we are not big time basketball.

He will be gone in two years, maybe one.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
Maybe it's the way it's phrased, but something doesn't make sense.

In the for cause termination section, one of the examples is: APR four year rolling average falls below NCAA mandated threshold (presently 980) effective after year 1.

Then lower down, there's a bonus of $25k for an APR of 975.

Isn't 1000 a perfect score? I'm assuming the presently 980 means that's our current APR, but the way it reads its' like they're saying that's the NCAA mandated threshhold. Just very odd wording.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Bargain basement prices. At that salary we are not big time basketball.

He will be gone in two years, maybe one.

I would assume if he did well, we'd pay him more? Maybe he was due a raise if he stayed as the top assistant, but he's an unproven head coach now.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
The hard subsidy cap likely assures we can't pay over $1 million for a basketball or football coach. Marshall's AD has flatly said they do not have the finances to compete in the AAC. We are in a league with our current peers, like it or not.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Bargain basement prices. At that salary we are not big time basketball.

He will be gone in two years, maybe one.

We going to stroke a million dollar a year check for a guy who has never coached a game as the hmfic? This is the hire I wanted, but I don't buy your logic. How big time we are is determined by wins and losses, not the number of commas in the coach's salary. If he is successful, he gets a raise, just like any other coach. But right now, he gets paid what he is worth on the open market.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
Only $125K less than Haase's initial salary sounds reasonable.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:09 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  
(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Bargain basement prices. At that salary we are not big time basketball.

He will be gone in two years, maybe one.

We going to stroke a million dollar a year check for a guy who has never coached a game as the hmfic? This is the hire I wanted, but I don't buy your logic. How big time we are is determined by wins and losses, not the number of commas in the coach's salary. If he is successful, he gets a raise, just like any other coach. But right now, he gets paid what he is worth on the open market.

Nobody said anything about paying him 1mil. Bit he should be making more than what Haase started at. Haase was unproven when he started as well, but proved himself, largely with Ehsans help. Ehsan had already proven himself to start hihjet than Haase started. We're going cheap and even if we give him a raise, his demand will mean he's ouyta here soon.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
I think this salary is quite embarrassing.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:11 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  Only $125K less than Haase's initial salary sounds reasonable.

Don't you think we know more about Robs ability starting out than we did about Haase. Its not reasonable that he is starting less. He was our #1 assistant for four years. Hasse was a 3rd ssst and JV coach.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:09 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  
(04-20-2016 02:37 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Bargain basement prices. At that salary we are not big time basketball.

He will be gone in two years, maybe one.

We going to stroke a million dollar a year check for a guy who has never coached a game as the hmfic? This is the hire I wanted, but I don't buy your logic. How big time we are is determined by wins and losses, not the number of commas in the coach's salary. If he is successful, he gets a raise, just like any other coach. But right now, he gets paid what he is worth on the open market.

I would liked to have seen them honor him by at least recognizing in his salary that he is partly responsible for what we have now. I don't think they did that. In fact, even though they come out and say he was the best candidate, I don't think they would have gone that low with some of the other candidates.

Hopefully, he has a great season and is rewarded for it this time next year.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
I was thinking he'd start where Haase started, $550K. I am not sure if this is an indication of where we are as a program or where Ehsan is as a coach. Maybe its a little of both. Never the less, we shall see. If Ehsan is successful then where does his salary go from here....
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Ehsan has more experience coming in than Haase did coming in.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
I would have liked to have seen him start at $500-$550, but I really don't think $450 is unfair. We know he's been a great assistant, but he's unproven as a head coach. We've established that with success you can make a $1M salary here. He has plenty of room to grow into such a salary if he's as successful as I think he'll be.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(04-20-2016 03:11 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  Only $125K less than Haase's initial salary sounds reasonable.

Don't you think we know more about Robs ability starting out than we did about Haase. Its not reasonable that he is starting less. He was our #1 assistant for four years. Hasse was a 3rd ssst and JV coach.

For thirteen years, to the coach of KU and UNC.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:49 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Ehsan has more experience coming in than Haase did coming in.

Didn't Haase have more years as an assistant?
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
I think we got a bargain because he knew what he had here and he wanted to stay at UAB. He's not walking into a rebuilding job where the previous HC got sacked. He's not going to suffer two or three years of trying to get things turned around. The Blazers are turnkey ready. He should be winning better than twenty games from the jump, which is a luxury few assistants promoted to HC get to build their career records on.

We have plenty of room to reward him for his accomplishments.
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Will Ingram let Ehsan use the jet ?
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
(04-20-2016 03:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(04-20-2016 03:11 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  Only $125K less than Haase's initial salary sounds reasonable.

Don't you think we know more about Robs ability starting out than we did about Haase. Its not reasonable that he is starting less. He was our #1 assistant for four years. Hasse was a 3rd ssst and JV coach.

Perhaps, but Haase had a greater volume of years as an assistant. I think Rob has the potential to be a great head coach, better than Haase, but from the Athletics Department point of view, you're trying to get the most bang for your buck. As the salary stands, UAB is receiving great value for its investment, and Ehsan is receiving $450K + the opportunity to be a head coach at 33. I believe both parties win here.
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RE: Per AL.Com :Coach Robert Ehsan's new contract, salary breakdown, incentives and more
Last I checked, Rob and his agent agreed to this salary. I'm glad we are getting such a bargain deal. We'll be able to pay him significantly more in a couple seasons if he does what we think he will.
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