(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 12:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:45 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Draft analysis from 2009 regarding the #7 pick.

"He is going to end up as more of a point/combo guard than a pure two. He doesn't have the size, the strength, or the lateral quickness/athleticism to defend shooting guards in the league (he does, however, have a knack for disrupting the passing lanes as he averaged almost three thefts per).

He is also going to run into some issues at the point as well. His first step leaves much to be desired, and it more than likely will mean that Curry will have problems beating NBA points off the dribble.He probably is never going to end up being a star in the league because of a lack of explosiveness (meaning he will be a huge defensive liability). He should be able to hang around the league because of the all-around offensive package he brings to the table."

Bottom line is (to varying degrees) humans good at putting the ball in the hoop, getting the ball to other players, or grabbing the ball out of the air over others will have jobs in the NBA.

I'm no expert and don't claim to be but I'd say to my layman's eyes there is a great deal of variance between the degree at which the greatest shooter to ever have played the game is able to put the ball in the hoop and Dedric's ability to put the ball in the hoop.

Absolutely, see bolded.

Point being, some thought the two-time MVP and "greatest shooter ever" might be at best a bench guy due to the dreaded "lack of athleticism" tag. But he had a true basketball skill. Not just the hope an intangible ("athleticism") could make him good at basketball.

He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

(05-12-2016 12:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:45 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Draft analysis from 2009 regarding the #7 pick.

"He is going to end up as more of a point/combo guard than a pure two. He doesn't have the size, the strength, or the lateral quickness/athleticism to defend shooting guards in the league (he does, however, have a knack for disrupting the passing lanes as he averaged almost three thefts per).

He is also going to run into some issues at the point as well. His first step leaves much to be desired, and it more than likely will mean that Curry will have problems beating NBA points off the dribble.He probably is never going to end up being a star in the league because of a lack of explosiveness (meaning he will be a huge defensive liability). He should be able to hang around the league because of the all-around offensive package he brings to the table."

Bottom line is (to varying degrees) humans good at putting the ball in the hoop, getting the ball to other players, or grabbing the ball out of the air over others will have jobs in the NBA.

I'm no expert and don't claim to be but I'd say to my layman's eyes there is a great deal of variance between the degree at which the greatest shooter to ever have played the game is able to put the ball in the hoop and Dedric's ability to put the ball in the hoop.

Absolutely, see bolded.

Point being, some thought the two-time MVP and "greatest shooter ever" might be at best a bench guy due to the dreaded "lack of athleticism" tag. But he had a true basketball skill. Not just the hope an intangible ("athleticism") could make him good at basketball.

I understood what you were saying and I agree with it, I'm just not sure that Dedric's basketball skills are strong enough to overcome his lack of athleticism at this point. I do believe he is highly skilled, but Curry is out of this world skilled.

Dedric Lawson measures 6-8 in shoes at NBA combine. 224.8 lbs/11.05% body fat/7-foot, 2.5-inch wingspan same as Skal, who's 4 inches taller.

That's from Jason Smith's Twitter. Is 11% body fat good for a basketball player? I'd say at 224 he don't need to bulk up a whole lot more

(05-12-2016 02:23 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Dedric Lawson measures 6-8 in shoes at NBA combine. 224.8 lbs/11.05% body fat/7-foot, 2.5-inch wingspan same as Skal, who's 4 inches taller.

That's from Jason Smith's Twitter. Is 11% body fat good for a basketball player? I'd say at 224 he don't need to bulk up a whole lot more

It isn't bad at all.

He's still young as hell and some of that is just baby fat that will change.

Look at guys like Brandon Bass and Aminu when they were in college and how their bodies are now.

He's got the length for sure

(05-12-2016 02:31 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  He's got the length for sure

That's what she said.

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 12:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:45 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Draft analysis from 2009 regarding the #7 pick.

"He is going to end up as more of a point/combo guard than a pure two. He doesn't have the size, the strength, or the lateral quickness/athleticism to defend shooting guards in the league (he does, however, have a knack for disrupting the passing lanes as he averaged almost three thefts per).

He is also going to run into some issues at the point as well. His first step leaves much to be desired, and it more than likely will mean that Curry will have problems beating NBA points off the dribble.He probably is never going to end up being a star in the league because of a lack of explosiveness (meaning he will be a huge defensive liability). He should be able to hang around the league because of the all-around offensive package he brings to the table."

Bottom line is (to varying degrees) humans good at putting the ball in the hoop, getting the ball to other players, or grabbing the ball out of the air over others will have jobs in the NBA.

I'm no expert and don't claim to be but I'd say to my layman's eyes there is a great deal of variance between the degree at which the greatest shooter to ever have played the game is able to put the ball in the hoop and Dedric's ability to put the ball in the hoop.

Absolutely, see bolded.

Point being, some thought the two-time MVP and "greatest shooter ever" might be at best a bench guy due to the dreaded "lack of athleticism" tag. But he had a true basketball skill. Not just the hope an intangible ("athleticism") could make him good at basketball.

He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 12:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:45 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  I'm no expert and don't claim to be but I'd say to my layman's eyes there is a great deal of variance between the degree at which the greatest shooter to ever have played the game is able to put the ball in the hoop and Dedric's ability to put the ball in the hoop.

Absolutely, see bolded.

Point being, some thought the two-time MVP and "greatest shooter ever" might be at best a bench guy due to the dreaded "lack of athleticism" tag. But he had a true basketball skill. Not just the hope an intangible ("athleticism") could make him good at basketball.

He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 12:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Absolutely, see bolded.

Point being, some thought the two-time MVP and "greatest shooter ever" might be at best a bench guy due to the dreaded "lack of athleticism" tag. But he had a true basketball skill. Not just the hope an intangible ("athleticism") could make him good at basketball.

He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

(05-12-2016 02:51 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

Oh my

(05-12-2016 02:51 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

Dayum

(05-12-2016 02:51 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

Man, talk about shots fired!

I was under the impression Shaq did the banging. Yall remember those commercials with smiling Bob? Shaq sure did smile a lot, just sayin.

(05-12-2016 02:51 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  He's a post player that shot 40% from the field. I wouldn't say that's a knack for putting the ball in the basket. He does seem to have a knack for rebounding.

That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

I set that one up on a tee. I was thinking the jokes would gravitate to Dedric's exceptional "length."

(05-12-2016 03:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:51 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:44 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:35 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 02:15 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  That's fair. Maybe I can amend to he had a knack for getting to the basket. He missed a lot of bunnies and putbacks. Perhaps that improves as he gets stronger and the game "slows down" for him.

He is no more a post player than Rodney Carney was. Jeez.

Dedric banged a lot more, at the least.

I thought AN left before Dedric arrived?

I set that one up on a tee. I was thinking the jokes would gravitate to Dedric's exceptional "length."

He did have the longest, well, the longest "hands" at the combine (9.5 inches). I asked Donald Trump and he says that's important.

Yuge hands!