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(04-21-2016 08:52 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
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(04-20-2016 09:19 PM)slycat Wrote:  Good point. I guess what I meant by politics was that it's hard to get int he hosting club it's easier to host again over someone new. But I do agree any SBC team hosting is hard earned. I was happy to earn a 2 seed once in Austin. Hosting a regional with them that close is impossible unless they don't qualify. I can see LSU as a major threat since they are so close as well to UL.

arent these regionals still bid on by schools. I know a-m and texas never leave town for the first round because they have the resources to bid high whenever their teams are nearing the playoffs. even tcu has a large enough stadium and some avid money backers to put up a good bid when they might have a team in a position for a high seed.

The Cajuns put in a bid regardless of whether or not they think they're qualified to host. It's basically a formality. The host sites aren't chosen by who puts up the most money. In recent years the committee has done a pretty good job in selecting hosts.

Would we bid this year? Serious question because of the upcoming renovations that are going to go into January/February 2017.

My gut feeling is that Tony will bid because you always want to reward your team and fans with the opportunity to play at home following a great regular season, but that cuts 2 weeks out of Lemoine's schedule to get the renovation complete. I'm sure some fans would be pissed if the renovation is not complete by the start of the 2017 season.
We absolutely will bid for host and lemoine can still start staging equipment and getting things ready.

You betcha. No way we don't bid; robe would never do that to his guys. Or the fans.
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RE: Baseball regional projections
Regionals are pretty much no longer subject to bidding now. You have to place a bid if you want a chance to host, but the NCAA is going to assign regionals based on RPI and record.
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RE: Baseball regional projections
(04-21-2016 10:47 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Regionals are pretty much no longer subject to bidding now. You have to place a bid if you want a chance to host, but the NCAA is going to assign regionals based on RPI and record.

You still must bid and have adequate ball park. You can be the #1 RPI and if you don't put in a bid you are traveling. If you can't meet certain facility standards you will travel. That being said you have to earn it., put in a bid and have a proper place to host.
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And although it might not happen often, I would think that if everything else being equal, then the higher bid would get it above the lower one.
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Any teams in our league that wouldn't be able to host based on facility requirements? stAte? Little Rock? GSU?
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(04-21-2016 11:18 AM)_x_ Wrote:  Any teams in our league that wouldn't be able to host based on facility requirements? stAte? Little Rock? GSU?

Our backstop behind the plate is out of NCAA Compliance. (Considered too close) We won't be able to host until the school fixes the issue. We could however host in Millington, TN if we had an amazing year at some point and had a top 15 RPI. It's about 70 miles from campus, but the NCAA doesn't care as much about the location now, just that it's an adequate facility that a school is willing to use.

Little Rock could host at the Minor League ballpark down the road, Georgia State could use any number of facilities in Atlanta.
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(04-21-2016 11:18 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  And although it might not happen often, I would think that if everything else being equal, then the higher bid would get it above the lower one.

Not anymore. RPI and record and more conventional things is the #1 factor now. Bidding isn't about the size of the bid, but rather that you can prove you have the facilities and nearby hotel space to host a tournament. There have been schools who have been unable to host because of lack of available hotel space over the weekend, or conflicts with major conventions.

If your stadium can't host, you can also bid to host off campus at an acceptable stadium. For instance, Purdue hosted something like 40 miles off campus a couple years back.
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(04-21-2016 11:18 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  And although it might not happen often, I would think that if everything else being equal, then the higher bid would get it above the lower one.

I am almost certain the bids are a set price, like $25k. So there is no lower or higher bid, it's just a bid.
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(04-21-2016 11:39 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 11:18 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  And although it might not happen often, I would think that if everything else being equal, then the higher bid would get it above the lower one.

I am almost certain the bids are a set price, like $25k. So there is no lower or higher bid, it's just a bid.

This is correct.
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(04-21-2016 09:17 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  USA has historically been screwed by the NCAA in terms of hosting. They would always give us excuses as to why we couldn't host. In 2001 we were the #1 seed but Clemson hosted. The next year in 2002 we were the #1 seed playing in the South Bend (Notre Dame) regional. In 2013 we just barely missed out of hosting, but we did bid on a regional. I know that we'll bid again this year.

I wouldn't complain about that in 2005 we were the #1 seed in the Tempe, AZ regional.
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(04-21-2016 01:55 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 09:17 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  USA has historically been screwed by the NCAA in terms of hosting. They would always give us excuses as to why we couldn't host. In 2001 we were the #1 seed but Clemson hosted. The next year in 2002 we were the #1 seed playing in the South Bend (Notre Dame) regional. In 2013 we just barely missed out of hosting, but we did bid on a regional. I know that we'll bid again this year.

I wouldn't complain about that in 2005 we were the #1 seed in the Tempe, AZ regional.

Give the NCAA credit, they have changed the host selection criteria significantly since that point to make it easier for mid majors to host.

You will still see a 2 seed hosting every now and then, but it's usually because a team has a field that is unavailable during that week and didn't bid. Happened to Missouri State in Super Regional play last year. Cost them a shot at the College World Series.
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RE: Baseball regional projections
(04-21-2016 02:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 01:55 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 09:17 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  USA has historically been screwed by the NCAA in terms of hosting. They would always give us excuses as to why we couldn't host. In 2001 we were the #1 seed but Clemson hosted. The next year in 2002 we were the #1 seed playing in the South Bend (Notre Dame) regional. In 2013 we just barely missed out of hosting, but we did bid on a regional. I know that we'll bid again this year.

I wouldn't complain about that in 2005 we were the #1 seed in the Tempe, AZ regional.

Give the NCAA credit, they have changed the host selection criteria significantly since that point to make it easier for mid majors to host.

You will still see a 2 seed hosting every now and then, but it's usually because a team has a field that is unavailable during that week and didn't bid. Happened to Missouri State in Super Regional play last year. Cost them a shot at the College World Series.

To be honest, we didn't have a field capable of hosting and I'm not sure if we even submitted a bid that year. It would have been nice not to be sent way out to AZ though. The NCAA did let us host one year with temp bleachers and it was ok but still not ideal - we had some minor upgrades but the press box, restrooms, and concessions weren't up to par. We then used the minor league park a couple of times and it was fine, just not our home. Now we have a nice place and hope to be able to host on campus.
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RE: Baseball regional projections
(04-21-2016 11:43 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 11:39 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 11:18 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  And although it might not happen often, I would think that if everything else being equal, then the higher bid would get it above the lower one.

I am almost certain the bids are a set price, like $25k. So there is no lower or higher bid, it's just a bid.

This is correct.

Thanks for all the info on this process. It's like I need to re-learn it again each year, lol.
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