http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...g-Ten.aspx

If the B1G is to get $17-18M from the tier 1 with 25 football games & 50 basketball games. Some are assuming tier 2 will get that and although they are not as valuable I did read it appears more content could be directed into tier 2 than tier 1 or have more inventory for BTN making it more valuable. It would seem $40-$45M from just tv and not even including playoffs/bowl money is very reasonable.

The other thing is this isn't even a very long deal its only in place for 6 years.

Do you think this revenue difference will make any of the ACC schools think about moving? This will be a big disparity in tv revenues.

(04-19-2016 04:40 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...g-Ten.aspx

If the B1G is to get $17-18M from the tier 1 with 25 football games & 50 basketball games. Some are assuming tier 2 will get that and although they are not as valuable I did read it appears more content could be directed into tier 2 than tier 1 or have more inventory for BTN making it more valuable. It would seem $40-$45M from just tv and not even including playoffs/bowl money is very reasonable.

The other thing is this isn't even a very long deal its only in place for 6 years.

Do you think this revenue difference will make any of the ACC schools think about moving? This will be a big disparity in tv revenues.

ACC is about to be dusted....

We're doomed I tell you! Doomed! How can anyone compete with the B1G behemoth?

IU is cutting down the nets as we speak.

Good article on how ESPN needs to be a better media partner to the ACC in light of the new B1G deal.

http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2016/04/1...-revealed/

(04-19-2016 05:16 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 04:40 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...g-Ten.aspx

If the B1G is to get $17-18M from the tier 1 with 25 football games & 50 basketball games. Some are assuming tier 2 will get that and although they are not as valuable I did read it appears more content could be directed into tier 2 than tier 1 or have more inventory for BTN making it more valuable. It would seem $40-$45M from just tv and not even including playoffs/bowl money is very reasonable.

The other thing is this isn't even a very long deal its only in place for 6 years.

Do you think this revenue difference will make any of the ACC schools think about moving? This will be a big disparity in tv revenues.

ACC is about to be dusted....

Ok, Swofford, your move.

Interesting that the article says ESPN made a non competitive offer. Could this mean that ESPN will go all in with the ACC? Maybe wishful thinking, but the non competitive offer does raise an eyebrow to make you wonder what their strategy might be.

(04-19-2016 05:16 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 04:40 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...g-Ten.aspx

If the B1G is to get $17-18M from the tier 1 with 25 football games & 50 basketball games. Some are assuming tier 2 will get that and although they are not as valuable I did read it appears more content could be directed into tier 2 than tier 1 or have more inventory for BTN making it more valuable. It would seem $40-$45M from just tv and not even including playoffs/bowl money is very reasonable.

The other thing is this isn't even a very long deal its only in place for 6 years.

Do you think this revenue difference will make any of the ACC schools think about moving? This will be a big disparity in tv revenues.

ACC is about to be dusted....

You think the Big 12 or Pac 12 aren't getting boat raced by the Big 10?

Even the SEC is getting dwarfed by what Delany has been able to pull off.

ACC needs a new Commissioner and contract lawyers!

(04-19-2016 07:21 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Interesting that the article says ESPN made a non competitive offer. Could this mean that ESPN will go all in with the ACC? Maybe wishful thinking, but the non competitive offer does raise an eyebrow to make you wonder what their strategy might be.

If ESPN low-balled the Tier 1 games, what will they bid on the leftovers?

I expect to see a lot more ACC football in prime time after the dust settles.

(04-19-2016 05:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  We're doomed I tell you! Doomed! How can anyone compete with the B1G behemoth?

Nah. Those of us still stuck in the G5 are doomed. The rich keep getting richer and the poor, well....

We are looking at payout differences from $10 to $20 million plus differences a year.

Yes, teams will start looking. Whether they go....who knows. But they will start to wonder.

Money matters, unless you are already super rich.

(04-19-2016 06:48 PM)TopperCard Wrote:  Good article on how ESPN needs to be a better media partner to the ACC in light of the new B1G deal.

http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2016/04/1...-revealed/

Interesting.

I have LONG been saying here ESPN treats the ACC as 2nd class and I was repeatedly told I was wrong.

So what is it? Is ESPN a good partner or not?

(04-20-2016 09:32 AM)nole Wrote:  We are looking at payout differences from $10 to $20 million plus differences a year.

Yes, teams will start looking. Whether they go....who knows. But they will start to wonder.

Money matters, unless you are already super rich.

I'd bet that money matters even for the teams that are super rich.

(04-19-2016 09:57 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 07:21 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  Interesting that the article says ESPN made a non competitive offer. Could this mean that ESPN will go all in with the ACC? Maybe wishful thinking, but the non competitive offer does raise an eyebrow to make you wonder what their strategy might be.

If ESPN low-balled the Tier 1 games, what will they bid on the leftovers?

I expect to see a lot more ACC football in prime time after the dust settles.

I think ESPN will low ball them again...I think they feel comfortable with the ACC/SEC/B12 and PAC12. I could see them going in with FOX and sharing some B1G content with this 2nd package.

(04-20-2016 09:37 AM)nole Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 06:48 PM)TopperCard Wrote:  Good article on how ESPN needs to be a better media partner to the ACC in light of the new B1G deal.

http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2016/04/1...-revealed/

Interesting.

I have LONG been saying here ESPN treats the ACC as 2nd class and I was repeatedly told I was wrong.

So what is it? Is ESPN a good partner or not?

We'll see...remember generally the B1G teams garner better ratings...so they should get paid more. It is up to the ACC to respond...I think the league as a whole is starting to evolve into the 3rd Pillar.

(04-20-2016 10:30 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-20-2016 09:37 AM)nole Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 06:48 PM)TopperCard Wrote:  Good article on how ESPN needs to be a better media partner to the ACC in light of the new B1G deal.

http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2016/04/1...-revealed/

Interesting.

I have LONG been saying here ESPN treats the ACC as 2nd class and I was repeatedly told I was wrong.

So what is it? Is ESPN a good partner or not?

We'll see...remember generally the B1G teams garner better ratings...so they should get paid more. It is up to the ACC to respond...I think the league as a whole is starting to evolve into the 3rd Pillar.

It's mind boggling to me why some don't understand that what Ohio State and Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin, Michigan State and Minnesota are being paid for is alumni bases that are TWICE the size of ACC alumni bases and everything that goes with that. There's a reason that for the most part, you can peg P-5 revenue to a combination of the size of the Alumni Base and the size and age of the Football stadium.

Outliers are Florida State, Oregon, Louisville, Notre Dame, and formerly Miami.

Only deep time changes these structural differences.

If you look at the outliers I cited how did they move up against the structural constraints?

1. FSU was in the second best location in America for talent and obtained the right coach who stayed in Tallahassee
2. Louisville committed to big time football in the early 1980's and poured Louisville region cash into their programs and have avoid any professional or other regional competition
3. Oregon had Nike
4. Notre Dame had the American body of Catholics who adopted it as their sports university of choice
5. Miami had the best location of talent in America and used to cheat like Hell

It's a zero sum game that appears from the outside not to be zero sum, that's the illusion.

I really really hate the B1G and Delaney. Swofford and the ACC better have something up their sleeves soon. Facing a deficit of $20M is just too much.

Those of Us from the Big East remember well how ESPN plays this game. Vaseline needs to be in an accessible location .

Lumberpack made a good point above about alumni bases. The below article talks about the size of alumni bases. I'm not saying all his conclusions will happen but he references current enrollments with the SEC and even though everyone feels the SEC is king, if he is correct the average B1G school has 10K more students than the SEC that adds up with past alumni and viewers.

I'm not sure ESPN can afford to sit out on the other B1G package of games, and that might have been part of the leverage with FOX buying one half and expecting ESPN will up their amount now for the 2nd half and split the games like they do with other leagues.

http://hawkeyenation.com/2016/b1g-money-big-ten