(04-18-2016 02:31 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 02:24 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 02:12 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 01:52 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 01:46 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Again, where in any of that do you get that "he messed up his contract"? The Orlando administration admittedly mishandled the negotiations. They messed up his contract, which is why he went to LA.

I never said he claimed he "messed up" his contract.

He said he wished he had stayed in Orlando with Penny. And I said he could have easily stayed and still been a multi $$$ gazillionaire.

"Shaq screwed up Shaq's renewal contract"- Midtowncowboy, no more than 30 minutes before this.

My mistake, I stand corrected. Poor choice of words. I meant to imply "Shaq could have easily stayed with the magic..". So in that context, he did screw up. Which is what he said.

Yes, Shaq could've stayed. He even claims that he should've, although it means giving back in his three rings he won in LA for a mere hope of earning some by staying in Orlando.

I don't think that Shaq screwed up, necessarily. He got paid, and got way more exposure (movie deals, video game deals, etc.) in LA than he ever would've received in Orlando. I don't think he cared where he played very much, but I know who did: Leonard Amato. If anyone torpedo'd the Orlando resigning (other than Orlando themselves) it's Amato. He wanted Shaq in LA from the get go.

But hasnt Shaq said so many contradictory things over the years?I dont know what to believe, and what's for show. A lot of what he does and says is for the cameras.

[edit: I'll put it even more strongly: there's no single statement that Shaq utters that I would trust in its own.]

(04-19-2016 02:25 PM)kabluey Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 02:31 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 02:24 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 02:12 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 01:52 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  I never said he claimed he "messed up" his contract.

He said he wished he had stayed in Orlando with Penny. And I said he could have easily stayed and still been a multi $$$ gazillionaire.

"Shaq screwed up Shaq's renewal contract"- Midtowncowboy, no more than 30 minutes before this.

My mistake, I stand corrected. Poor choice of words. I meant to imply "Shaq could have easily stayed with the magic..". So in that context, he did screw up. Which is what he said.

Yes, Shaq could've stayed. He even claims that he should've, although it means giving back in his three rings he won in LA for a mere hope of earning some by staying in Orlando.

I don't think that Shaq screwed up, necessarily. He got paid, and got way more exposure (movie deals, video game deals, etc.) in LA than he ever would've received in Orlando. I don't think he cared where he played very much, but I know who did: Leonard Amato. If anyone torpedo'd the Orlando resigning (other than Orlando themselves) it's Amato. He wanted Shaq in LA from the get go.

But hasnt Shaq said so many contradictory things over the years?I dont know what to believe, and what's for show. A lot of what he does and says is for the cameras.

Yeah, I had to sort of smirked when he claimed he should've stayed in Orlando. That's a happily ever after type of thing to say after the fact, but in reality he'd go to LA 10 out of 10 times. Shaq looks out for Shaq, but he knows what makes good TV though,

Did his contract at LSU pay the max?

Looking forward to seeing this tonight!!!

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Grew up playing ball with Desmond and several others from Binghampton.

Desmond was a great kid, always had that big smile no matter what. He came literally from nothing and became a legend because of his grit and his determination to succeed.

He will live on in Binghampton and his influence will as well.



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(04-18-2016 05:07 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-18-2016 03:24 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Didn't the brass in Orlando come back to Shaq's agent with a similar deal that the Lakers were offering but the damage had been done at that point. Shaq's ego had been bruised and he was done in Orlando. That and the Orlando Sentinel poll where 80% of the fans felt like Shaq was overpaid. If a man doesn't feel appreciated, he will go where he does feel appreciated.

Keep your personal life out of this...

Come on now. That's just wrong!

Great show! My 12 year old is searching for "Pennys" online... And the legacy continues...

It was an awesome episode. Penny is a class act.

He is doing the community and its kids a great service.

(04-19-2016 06:45 PM)maximus Wrote:  Grew up playing ball with Desmond and several others from Binghampton.

Desmond was a great kid, always had that big smile no matter what. He came literally from nothing and became a legend because of his grit and his determination to succeed.

He will live on in Binghampton and his influence will as well.



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I coached Des

Good dude

That was a really great show.

(04-19-2016 10:41 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  He is doing the community and its kids a great service.

I agree, strat. It seems to me that Penny can have a better, 12-month-a-year, impact on Tigers Basketball doing exactly what he's doing now. Without the pressure of being an assistant coach, and without the possibility of getting fired by his alma mater. Everybody wins.

Good show. Worth seeing.

Is this the same as Magic Moment?

I missed this last night and couldn't find a repeat scheduled.

Any help would be appreciated.

(04-20-2016 09:21 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Is this the same as Magic Moment?

I missed this last night and couldn't find a repeat scheduled.

Any help would be appreciated.

no

(04-20-2016 09:21 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Is this the same as Magic Moment?

I missed this last night and couldn't find a repeat scheduled.

Any help would be appreciated.

The Magic Moment is an ESPN 30 for 30 episode.

The "Penny Saved" that aired last night was part of an ESPN E:60 episode.

I missed both. Checked ESPN website for schedule, but they have nothing.

Anyone know reschedule dates for either?

Magic Moment is on Watch ESPN...

Penny saved has not posted yet.

So is this e60 the same as the one from a year or so ago with AAU, Dez, & Lester? Or is it a follow up to him coaching at East?

(04-20-2016 05:42 PM)kabluey Wrote:  So is this e60 the same as the one from a year or so ago with AAU, Dez, & Lester? Or is it a follow up to him coaching at East?

I don't know if it is the original or updated. This one goes through the '15 state championship.

Great story. A lot of guys with Penny's resume would not have done that.

Thanks Penny.