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RE: Beard has done this before
(04-16-2016 09:05 AM)insideualr Wrote: (04-16-2016 08:43 AM)mjs Wrote: (04-15-2016 11:56 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (04-15-2016 02:05 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: (04-15-2016 01:25 PM)mjs Wrote: I said at the time it was a totally ridiculous move and made no sense to me. I think Steve is the godfather of one of Porter's kids, so I assumed Porter was okay with it, but really don't know if he was. I also thought the Missouri coach was on the hot seat. I guess Porter is too, at this point, so that's a wash.
But, I never once heard the word "SLEAZE" mentioned.
I think I was the one that first mentioned sleaze, not MJS. I am a stickler for believing that a coach should honor the commitment they make to a school and its teams.
Thanks Chiefsfan. You did, and I concurred. Whether "sleaze" is the appropriate word, I can't say. But, it's sad to me that the majority on this board don't believe things in like "commitment", "character", and the value of your "word". Those things still mean something to me, but I'm old school. It is definitely become a "me first" society. It's particularly sad that coaches, who claim to be mentoring morals, character, etc. are typically the worst role modes for those traits. Beard is not our coach anymore so I could care less what he does. I made the same comments on this board about Tubby Smith, 2 days earlier, after he had told the TT AD a few days before how much he loved it at Tech and planned to retire there. One trait all successful college coaches appear to be high on is psychopathy.
Good god the man got a job by his kids.
That is important.
It can play off that way to you guys, but up here, he comes across as a joke for doing that.
Then again, we're a bit sensitive on the coaches leaving early issue.
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It's a joke everywhere but this board.
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Another joke on this board was when you started a thread a few weeks ago that said "he's not going anywhere". Maybe thats the reason you are so pissed at him, cause he did not fulfill your statement. I see you are making negative statements on the ASU board about CoachBeard that you are making here.
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RE: Beard has done this before
(04-17-2016 08:32 AM)RBL Wrote: Another joke on this board was when you started a thread a few weeks ago that said "he's not going anywhere". Maybe thats the reason you are so pissed at him, cause he did not fulfill your statement. I see you are making negative statements on the ASU board about CoachBeard that you are making here.
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Hugh Freeze is probably the person deserving the most credit from saving the AState football program from the pits of mediocrity, but we have large portions of our fan base who will never forgive him for taking the Ole Miss job, despite it being a similar situation to Beard in terms of his dream job with family in the area.
I think you guys may love Beard now, but a lot of what you guys think about him in the future is going to depend on how your basketball program responds. It's easier for us forgive Freeze over the traitors Malzahn and Harsin because it's clear he's made attempts to help us in every way since he left, and our program has prospered since.
If you guys turn around next year and win the league again, Beard might be a hero, but if the team begins to fall back into the depths of mediocrity over the next couple years, you'll see more than just mjs mad at Chris Beard.
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Regardless of what happens with our program, I'll always be indebted to Coach Beard for what he accomplished for our program. It's not his problem if our program falters after he's gone. It's up to our new coach to make sure that doesn't happen. If it does, then he gets the blame. Not Coach Beard. He set the table for the next coach. The ball is in this coaches hand to do the job. Butler and Gonzaga had successful coaches leave, and their assistants have carried on in a similar manner. That's the hope I have for Wes. And if he doesn't there will be another coach. To carry grudges against coaches who leave after bringing success to your program is just wrong. We got what we've been wishing for for years. A successful coach who moved up to a bigger, higher paying job. So whether it's in one season or four or five, what difference does it make. Chris came here, did his job, got the program back on solid footing, and moved on.
We have a great chance to build upon his accomplishments. Let's just do it and forget all this pettiness about what's gone on after he left. As I've said previously, I hope Texas Tech wins every game they play, unless they're playing our Trojans.
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RE: Beard has done this before
(04-17-2016 08:32 AM)RBL Wrote: Another joke on this board was when you started a thread a few weeks ago that said "he's not going anywhere". Maybe thats the reason you are so pissed at him, cause he did not fulfill your statement. I see you are making negative statements on the ASU board about CoachBeard that you are making here.
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Why would I be "pissed" at him for leaving UNLV. Doesn't affect me in the least. My posts about lack of character in the coaching profession started with Tubby leaving TT after pledging his love and commitment to a program (a few days before) that hired him after he was fired at Minnesota. Then a coach left UNLV after less than a week on the job for a nice bump in salary. Just so happens he used to coach here. That fact has nothing to do with my comments about character, commitment, keeping one's word, etc. I've criticized other coaches (Petino, Malzahn, etc), who have no connection to LR, for the same thing.
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RE: Beard has done this before
(04-17-2016 12:20 PM)mjs Wrote: (04-17-2016 08:32 AM)RBL Wrote: Another joke on this board was when you started a thread a few weeks ago that said "he's not going anywhere". Maybe thats the reason you are so pissed at him, cause he did not fulfill your statement. I see you are making negative statements on the ASU board about CoachBeard that you are making here.
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Why would I be "pissed" at him for leaving UNLV. Doesn't affect me in the least. My posts about lack of character in the coaching profession started with Tubby leaving TT after pledging his love and commitment to a program (a few days before) that hired him after he was fired at Minnesota. Then a coach left UNLV after less than a week on the job for a nice bump in salary. Just so happens he used to coach here. That fact has nothing to do with my comments about character, commitment, keeping one's word, etc. I've criticized other coaches (Petino, Malzahn, etc), who have no connection to LR, for the same thing.
All except Dana Altman because he did it to Fayetterville. In his case you have held him up as a hero! Seems like you are offended when you want to be and not offended when you don't want to be for the same behavior.
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I think we're focusing on the wrong things. Coach Beard did great things in his year here. But he's gone. Let's move on to something constructive, like supporting our new coach instead of bitching about how he's going to screw things up.
Maybe he will, but if Chasse is convinced he's the guy for the job at this moment in time, I'm all in. Looking to a fun season with Wes and our new yet to be named coaching staff.
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In less than one calendar year, Coach Beard accomplished more than any coach who has ever been here. He took over a losing team and won 30 games, went to the second round of the NCAA, won the conference round robin, won the tournament, named Sun Belt Coach of the Year, and Mid-Major Coach of the Year. How in the hell could anyone be dissatisfied with that. We all knew his time here was limited, but nobody will most likely ever accomplish all or that again in one year. Most coaches don't accomplish all that in a career. I believe that Chris Beard will be successful anywhere he coaches, and where ever that is, I'll always be one of his fans.
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Yes Sir, me too
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(04-17-2016 02:31 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: In less than one calendar year, Coach Beard accomplished more than any coach who has ever been here. He took over a losing team and won 30 games, went to the second round of the NCAA, won the conference round robin, won the tournament, named Sun Belt Coach of the Year, and Mid-Major Coach of the Year. How in the hell could anyone be dissatisfied with that. We all knew his time here was limited, but nobody will most likely ever accomplish all or that again in one year. Most coaches don't accomplish all that in a career. I believe that Chris Beard will be successful anywhere he coaches, and where ever that is, I'll always be one of his fans.
Amen!
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