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11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position.
(Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)


http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.
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So reading that he can be reassigned. I'd say associate AD in charge of feeding potential recruits


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would he want to be reassigned? that would involve a pay cut I'm assuming since he won't be a part of the assistant coaches/able to draw from the pool of money
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If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...
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Grammar advisor
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(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?
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All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.
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(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

I've heard he is more "bouncy" than his brothers. It's really too early to tell
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(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good
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2018-2020 are pretty good classes.

2017 isn't horrible either.
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(04-15-2016 11:57 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good

Thanks Keith. Finish your yard work the other night?
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(04-15-2016 12:00 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:57 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good

Thanks Keith. Finish your yard work the other night?

I did

Going to an AAU event in Atlanta this weekend
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(04-15-2016 11:57 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good

dj played at olive branch last year

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/oli...roster.htm
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(04-15-2016 12:04 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:57 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good

dj played at olive branch last year

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/oli...roster.htm

Thanks Union, sorry about the mistake. I do think he is Team Thad.
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wonder what is the connection between team thad and olive branch?
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(04-15-2016 11:57 AM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  All right, here is a sure-to-be-unpopular post. I'll pose it as a question. Is anybody else hearing that Chandler Lawson is overrated?

Friend who has a kid in AAU said DJ Jeffries at Cordova, Team Thad I think, will be a much better player than Chandler in the class of '19.
Says Chandler is good, no doubt, but gets tons of press cause of the brothers. Thinks he will end up being ranked 25-50. Don't blast me, but I have heard before that Chandler should never have been called the top recruit in his class.

There are some that like DJ's game more

Both will be good

just bring them all in - tubby can coach em up
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if tubby can go to the ncaa tournament at texas tech with 2-3 star recruits, i want him to get every single memphis kid because i know he will be able to take us to the next level


if he can get them
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(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position.
(Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)


http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

Bylaws say 2 years before AND 2 years after - not OR. So Keelon could be assigned next summer, if he didn't have another kid on the way. But sounds to me like he has to be in the job with son #3 on the way. If he's kept on, he's not being reassigned.
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(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

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(04-16-2016 01:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position.
(Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)


http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

Bylaws say 2 years before AND 2 years after - not OR. So Keelon could be assigned next summer, if he didn't have another kid on the way. But sounds to me like he has to be in the job with son #3 on the way. If he's kept on, he's not being reassigned.

Kid #4 is on the way too...
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