I like Keelon as an assistant, myself, and think he's a good coach. It's all good regardless.

(04-16-2016 01:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

Bylaws say 2 years before AND 2 years after - not OR. So Keelon could be assigned next summer, if he didn't have another kid on the way. But sounds to me like he has to be in the job with son #3 on the way. If he's kept on, he's not being reassigned.

...unless he's getting paid well to be the DBO.

Bottom line...Keelon CAN be moved out of a coaching position and be reassigned and not have to be a coach when Chandler comes in.

(04-16-2016 08:10 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 01:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

Bylaws say 2 years before AND 2 years after - not OR. So Keelon could be assigned next summer, if he didn't have another kid on the way. But sounds to me like he has to be in the job with son #3 on the way. If he's kept on, he's not being reassigned.

...unless he's getting paid well to be the DBO.

Bottom line...Keelon CAN be moved out of a coaching position and be reassigned and not have to be a coach when Chandler comes in.

I don't think that's true. I think if he's working there, he has to be an AC for 2 years leading in AND 2 years after son #3 gets here. Then there's son #4 to think about. So if Keelon stays on, he stays on ONLY as a full-blown AC for the next 8 years or so. There is no re-assignment option if you're banking on all the boys coming.

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

I dunno if it will matter.
Mama Lawson has said that Chandler isn't guaranteed to come to Memphis like the other 2 brothers. He will have an 'open' recruitment...no matter if Papa Lawson is still at Memphis or not.

Keelon is a solid coach with or without the boys.

(04-16-2016 07:40 AM)450bench Wrote:  I like Keelon as an assistant, myself, and think he's a good coach. It's all good regardless.

I'll be interested in seeing how he acts with a real bench coach on the sidelines. He has probably been kept under a wash tub with the micromanager while he's been here the last couple of years.

I hope he gets to show what he's capable of for a change.

(04-16-2016 07:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

I dunno if it will matter.
Mama Lawson has said that Chandler isn't guaranteed to come to Memphis like the other 2 brothers. He will have an 'open' recruitment...no matter if Papa Lawson is still at Memphis or not.

Mama L better get ready to rejoin the workforce if that's true. Just being honest saying this. Anyone with a Brain knows why Papa has the job he has.

Mama better get on board with the real world

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

(04-16-2016 07:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

I dunno if it will matter.
Mama Lawson has said that Chandler isn't guaranteed to come to Memphis like the other 2 brothers. He will have an 'open' recruitment...no matter if Papa Lawson is still at Memphis or not.

If you believe that, then I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

Mama Lawson is known on the AAU circuit to be a handful. When the CA had the article about Dedric hearing him mom yelling during a game at the Forum, I laughed because a bunch of coaches have heard her screaming over the years.

The mom just doesn't want Chandler to be looked at as a package deal, taken for granted. If dad is an AC, he is 100% coming here.

(04-17-2016 05:52 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

Think it's a moot point, because Tubby will retain Keelon, at least for a year.

But I doubt Keelon can use the kids as a package deal to get another AC job. Weird circumstances the first time, Josh had a failing program, Stallings had offered Keelon a job, Dedric and KJ so close in age and ended up being Freshmen together.

Doubt all the stars line up again like that for Keelon.

(04-17-2016 06:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 05:52 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

Think it's a moot point, because Tubby will retain Keelon, at least for a year.

But I doubt Keelon can use the kids as a package deal to get another AC job. Weird circumstances the first time, Josh had a failing program, Stallings had offered Keelon a job, Dedric and KJ so close in age and ended up being Freshmen together.

Doubt all the stars line up again like that for Keelon.

Stallings never offered

(04-17-2016 06:59 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 06:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 05:52 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

Think it's a moot point, because Tubby will retain Keelon, at least for a year.

But I doubt Keelon can use the kids as a package deal to get another AC job. Weird circumstances the first time, Josh had a failing program, Stallings had offered Keelon a job, Dedric and KJ so close in age and ended up being Freshmen together.

Doubt all the stars line up again like that for Keelon.

Stallings never offered

Ok, thanks, stand corrected. Stallings flirted with Keelon?

Go Grizz.

Keelon will learn a lot of coaching from Tubby Smith. I think it can benefit him and U of M in the future.

(04-17-2016 06:59 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 06:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 05:52 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:48 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  If you want any chance of getting the next two Lawson kids; then Keelon stays as a coach ... You've already given him and Asst. Coaching position, no way to take that back now ... If you do, then that's the end of the Lawson's and Tiger basketball ...

A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

Think it's a moot point, because Tubby will retain Keelon, at least for a year.

But I doubt Keelon can use the kids as a package deal to get another AC job. Weird circumstances the first time, Josh had a failing program, Stallings had offered Keelon a job, Dedric and KJ so close in age and ended up being Freshmen together.

Doubt all the stars line up again like that for Keelon.

Stallings never offered

LOl......love it when people post but don't have a clue.

(04-17-2016 10:23 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 06:59 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 06:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-17-2016 05:52 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:50 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A little overdramatic don't you think ?

Nope ... Just my opinion ... Lawson doesn't get retained then there won't be the connection to Memphis, because he will get hired somewhere else ... 2 more sons coming up ...

Think it's a moot point, because Tubby will retain Keelon, at least for a year.

But I doubt Keelon can use the kids as a package deal to get another AC job. Weird circumstances the first time, Josh had a failing program, Stallings had offered Keelon a job, Dedric and KJ so close in age and ended up being Freshmen together.

Doubt all the stars line up again like that for Keelon.

Stallings never offered

LOl......love it when people post but don't have a clue.

Glad you loved my post. Vanderbilt approached Keelon, which caused Memphis/Paster to react and ultimately hire Keelon.

So I guess my point was pretty much valid.

LOL......love it when smart asses respond to posts but don't have a clue.

(04-16-2016 11:52 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(04-16-2016 07:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

I dunno if it will matter.
Mama Lawson has said that Chandler isn't guaranteed to come to Memphis like the other 2 brothers. He will have an 'open' recruitment...no matter if Papa Lawson is still at Memphis or not.

Mama L better get ready to rejoin the workforce if that's true. Just being honest saying this. Anyone with a Brain knows why Papa has the job he has.

Mama better get on board with the real world

It is likely that her son will be making more than Daddy in the next couple of years.

(04-16-2016 07:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 11:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  11.4.2 Individual Associated with a Prospective Student-Athlete—Men’s Basketball. In
men’s basketball, during a two-year period before a prospective student-athlete’s anticipated enrollment and a
two-year period after the prospective student-athlete’s actual enrollment, an institution shall not employ (or enter
into a contract for future employment with) an individual associated with the prospective student-athlete in
any athletics department noncoaching staff position or in a strength and conditioning staff position. (Adopted:
1/16/10; a contract signed before 10/29/09 may be honored, Revised: 6/17/11)

11.4.2.1 Application. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 occurs if an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete
(see Bylaw 13.02.17) is employed by the institution and, at the time of employment, a studentathlete
who enrolled at the institution in the previous two years (and remains enrolled at the institution) was
a prospective student-athlete by which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a
prospective student-athlete. A violation of Bylaw 11.4.2 also occurs if an individual associated with a prospective
student-athlete is employed and, within two years after such employment, a prospective student-athlete by
which the individual meets the definition of an individual associated with a prospective student-athlete enrolls
as a full-time student in a regular academic term at the institution. In either case, the student-athlete becomes
ineligible for intercollegiate competition unless eligibility is restored by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.
(Adopted: 6/20/13)

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productd...116JAN.pdf


NCAA rules state when hiring a person associated with a recruit to a non-coaching position, he has to be on staff two years before the kid enters or start two years after he enters.

So, it seems that Keelon can be "reassigned" at the end of next season.

IF Keelon can be reassigned to a DBO spot two years prior to Chandler's anticipated enrollment, he can remain DBO when Chandler enrolls.

I dunno if it will matter.
Mama Lawson has said that Chandler isn't guaranteed to come to Memphis like the other 2 brothers. He will have an 'open' recruitment...no matter if Papa Lawson is still at Memphis or not.

You ever play poker? If so, I'd like to play with you sometime. I always have a great hand when I raise....always. Trust me.