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RE: FASCINATING - Read This - TX Tech AD Holcutt Press Conference - He's Pissed!
(04-14-2016 03:06 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If anyone interested, AD Holcutt actually starts the timeline in March. Going to West Virginia for a game, discussing the future with Tubby on the plane. Going to the NCAAs with the team, more interaction with Tubby.

You can tell Holcutt really likes Tubby, which I'm sure makes it hurt even more.

I'm impressed with their AD and his transparency.
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He acts genuinely hurt, but please remember the leading replacement candidate he's pursuing is the man who just agreed to be UNLVs head coach. I'd be more likely to believe he's very aggrieved if he wasn't about to do the same thing to another AD.

Notice the way he says "Memphis" throughout. Do I detect a sneer of condescension?

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(04-14-2016 03:10 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 03:06 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If anyone interested, AD Holcutt actually starts the timeline in March. Going to West Virginia for a game, discussing the future with Tubby on the plane. Going to the NCAAs with the team, more interaction with Tubby.

You can tell Holcutt really likes Tubby, which I'm sure makes it hurt even more.

I'm impressed with their AD and his transparency.

I know, let's hire him too.

All these coaches and administrators think they have to tow this PC line. Never criticize or make waves. Most fans don't expect perfection, but they would like transparency.
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RE: FASCINATING - Read This - TX Tech AD Holcutt Press Conference - He's Pissed!
(04-14-2016 03:11 PM)Eagle4Christ Wrote:  He acts genuinely hurt, but please remember the leading replacement candidate he's pursuing is the man who just agreed to be UNLVs head coach. I'd be more likely to believe he's very aggrieved if he wasn't about to do the same thing to another AD.

Notice the way he says "Memphis" throughout. Do I detect a sneer of condescension?

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No doubt. And Bowen handled it the right way, called him personally.

The look Holcutt had when he talked about getting the call yesterday morning, and was informed "that Coach Smith was in Memphis, Tennessee". Said the city and state. You could tell he was shocked.
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Thanks for the recap TS.

Just goes to show again that the Memphis media has no inside connections.
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(04-14-2016 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:  I watched so you didn't have to. Found it absolutely fascinating.

Wow, tons of details. The AD, Holcutt, was professional but pissed. Gotta admit, like this Holcutt guy, young, well-spoken, sounds like he's a fighter.

Details:

Tuesday at 10:30: AD Holcutt met with Tubby in his office, presented Tubby with new, 5 year contract offer that would make Tubby "the 3rd highest paid coach in the Big 12". Tubby was very happy.

Tuesday at 3:30: AD Holcutt got a "courtesy call" from Tom Bowen regarding our interest in Tubby.

Tuesday at 5:30: AD Holcutt gets in contact via cell with Tubby. Tubby tells Alcott he and his wife in car on way to meet Tiger people in Amarillo! Holcutt begged, his words, Tubby not to make a rushed decision. Tubby said he wouldn't, "but that these Memphis people are very pursuasive."

Wednesday at 8:30: Holcutt said there was a meeting at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday with Holcutt, Tubby and boosters to discuss new practice facility. Says Tubby was a no-show, and didn't tell anybody he would not be there. Holcutt said he called, but Tubby "had gone silent on me."

Wednesday at 11:00: Holcutt said at 11:00, he got a call and "learned that Coach Smith was in Memphis, Tennessse". Man, Holcutt was pissed at this point.

Wednesday at 5:00: Holcutt spoke again with Tubby, again said "Please don't make a rushed decision. I will wait for you as long as it takes." Tubby said he would not make a rushed decision. Also, Tubby did not go home to Lubbock last night, stayed in Memphis.

Thursday, today, at 6:45: Holcutt said he got a call from Tubby, Tubby told him he was taking the Memphis job.

Interesting anecdote: Holcutt and Tubby went to the Lakers - Clippers game in LA 8 days ago. They were in LA for the Wooden Award announcement. Holcutt said "At 6:45 a.m. last Thursday, Coach Smith and I were teeing off at Belleaire Country Club. Coach Smith said it was the best round he had played in years. At 6:45 am today, exactly one week later, Coach Smith called to say he was leaving Texas Tech."

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(04-14-2016 03:24 PM)John44932 Wrote:  Thanks for the recap TS.

Just goes to show again that the Memphis media has no inside connections.

No problem. And you will get no argument from me there. Wolken was the first to break the Tubby in Memphis news, not a local guy.
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(04-14-2016 03:25 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:  I watched so you didn't have to. Found it absolutely fascinating.

Wow, tons of details. The AD, Holcutt, was professional but pissed. Gotta admit, like this Holcutt guy, young, well-spoken, sounds like he's a fighter.

Details:

Tuesday at 10:30: AD Holcutt met with Tubby in his office, presented Tubby with new, 5 year contract offer that would make Tubby "the 3rd highest paid coach in the Big 12". Tubby was very happy.

Tuesday at 3:30: AD Holcutt got a "courtesy call" from Tom Bowen regarding our interest in Tubby.

Tuesday at 5:30: AD Holcutt gets in contact via cell with Tubby. Tubby tells Alcott he and his wife in car on way to meet Tiger people in Amarillo! Holcutt begged, his words, Tubby not to make a rushed decision. Tubby said he wouldn't, "but that these Memphis people are very pursuasive."

Wednesday at 8:30: Holcutt said there was a meeting at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday with Holcutt, Tubby and boosters to discuss new practice facility. Says Tubby was a no-show, and didn't tell anybody he would not be there. Holcutt said he called, but Tubby "had gone silent on me."

Wednesday at 11:00: Holcutt said at 11:00, he got a call and "learned that Coach Smith was in Memphis, Tennessse". Man, Holcutt was pissed at this point.

Wednesday at 5:00: Holcutt spoke again with Tubby, again said "Please don't make a rushed decision. I will wait for you as long as it takes." Tubby said he would not make a rushed decision. Also, Tubby did not go home to Lubbock last night, stayed in Memphis.

Thursday, today, at 6:45: Holcutt said he got a call from Tubby, Tubby told him he was taking the Memphis job.

Interesting anecdote: Holcutt and Tubby went to the Lakers - Clippers game in LA 8 days ago. They were in LA for the Wooden Award announcement. Holcutt said "At 6:45 a.m. last Thursday, Coach Smith and I were teeing off at Belleaire Country Club. Coach Smith said it was the best round he had played in years. At 6:45 am today, exactly one week later, Coach Smith called to say he was leaving Texas Tech."

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(04-14-2016 03:01 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:57 PM)Hoots Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:56 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:51 PM)Hoots Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXb3VB-HyU

This was really fascinating. He said much more than I figured he would about the timeline. Sounded very much like once Tubby was approached, he was on the Tigers hook.

I know. I thought that was really smart of Holcutt. Red Raider fans know he wasn't asleep at the wheel, and did all he could to keep Tubby. When you give the amount of detail that Holcutt did, it's incredibly convincing.

I really hope they get Beard or another good coach. Sucks to lose a coach you like.

For sure. And as you had said earlier, I liked this guy, too. Felt kinda bad for him, actually.

And wished we had a young guy for our AD who could communicate like him. He's really sharp.

He's going to Los Angeles with Tubby a week ago to get the Wooden award. Taking Tubby and Donna out to dinner in LA discussing the future. Golfing with him at a nice country club in LA. Offering him 5 more years and a raise. What else could Holcutt do? He has nothing to be ashamed of.

Despite having the millions of dollars that a Power 5 Conference team receives every year it appears that Texas Tech was sorely behind in the necessary facilities it takes to compete at a high level.

The new basketball facility will be much larger than the current facility, the Larry O. Finch Center. Funded in large part by former Memphis guard Bill Laurie, the facility will have a new weight room, new equipment, and offices for the U of M staff.

According to ESPN 92.9 WMFS the new practice facility will be completed next fall.



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(04-14-2016 02:45 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:44 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Well now we know. If we get a courtesy call and Tubby says he's going for an interview, then he doesn't show up for a booster meeting and goes phone silent.... we'll just have to start a bunch of new coach threads.

Now that's funny. Hopefully not a problem we will have anytime soon.

I will go on record saying that nobody is going to try to hire Tubby away from us. Nobody wants to start out with a guy in his mid 60's when you have to give him a 5 year deal at 3M+ per year. No other school is going to want that.
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(04-14-2016 04:37 PM)PlainTiger Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:45 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:44 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Well now we know. If we get a courtesy call and Tubby says he's going for an interview, then he doesn't show up for a booster meeting and goes phone silent.... we'll just have to start a bunch of new coach threads.

Now that's funny. Hopefully not a problem we will have anytime soon.

I will go on record saying that nobody is going to try to hire Tubby away from us. Nobody wants to start out with a guy in his mid 60's when you have to give him a 5 year deal at 3M+ per year. No other school is going to want that.

Yep. This is, in all likelihood, his final stop.
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This man is clearly upset

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FASCINATING - Read This - TX Tech AD Holcutt Press Conference - He's Pissed!
I thought Wolo kind of broke the story. Never doubt the connections of someone who despite their consistent miscues in a high profile position remains bulletproof 20, 30 or 40 years. Wolo is in the know when it comes to the Tigers. Not even going to speculate. #Woloscoop #Parishmustbow #Ohtheshameofitfather
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He looks red eyed and almost like he was going to cry

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(04-14-2016 01:00 PM)stratecashomie Wrote:  wow sounds like the last time my girlfriend tried to leave me

The last time your girl *tried* to leave you? You confessing to something?
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(04-14-2016 02:44 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Well now we know. If we get a courtesy call and Tubby says he's going for an interview, then he doesn't show up for a booster meeting and goes phone silent.... we'll just have to start a bunch of new coaching threads searches.
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This is all pretty simple.

Bowen made the courtesy call.
Tubby shared in a phone call he was meeting with Memphis reps.
Tubby made the meeting.
Tubby made the trip.
Those Memphis people were very pursuasive.
Tubby took the job.
For Tubby, Memphis offers more for his career than does Lubback.
TxTech, a fine university is starting a search for a new coach.
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(04-14-2016 02:35 PM)FUT Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-14-2016 02:20 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  It does suck to get left behind

Especially in Lubbock

True. I used to fly to Lubbock a lot, two big hospitals, and a medical school. Kind of sympathized with them, cause Memphis takes unfair shots at times.

If you are a hunter or a fisherman, you would love west Texas. Problem with Lubbock is it feels so isolated out there. You are a such long way from anything.

I one time had more fun in a Lubbock Whataburger than should be allowed by law. True story.

Joe Ely* is from there too..........I know all about Buddy Holly too.

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"Donna and I are very happy, and we want to stay here for a long time." Deja vu anyone?
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(04-14-2016 08:36 PM)73tigerfan Wrote:  "Donna and I are very happy, and we want to stay here for a long time." Deja vu anyone?

Dude, he's 64. Where is he going?
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