(04-09-2016 05:32 PM)RobM Wrote:  Offer Steve Forbes the job and get out of his way. He would be a homerun hire here at less than half the price and without an ego the size of Texas. Forbes is a tireless recruiter, loved by his former players, very good with media and fans, and can flat coach the game of basketball. Offer him the job at 1.75 million a year and he would walk here from his current job at ETSU. He completely turned around the job there at ETSU in one short year. He has won at every level. Many credit him with being a big part of Bruce Pearl's success while at Tennessee. When things went south there, he ended up on Greg Marshall's staff at WSU. It's no coincidence that when he was added to staff at WSU, that they all of a sudden became an even better basketball team (Two best years in programs history were the two years he was on staff). So, before we back the brinks truck for Greg Marshall, I would consider the fact that Steve Forbes is available, fits the city better, doesn't have an ego the size of Texas, and has a ton more contacts and ties to local and regional coaches and players. Greg Marshall is a GREAT coach. But, he is going to ask for the world in order to come here ($4 million a year, private planes, yada, yada, yada). Forbes on the other hand will take the job for a handshake and the opportunity to take this program back to the top.

Well said.

(04-09-2016 08:16 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 05:32 PM)RobM Wrote:  Offer Steve Forbes the job and get out of his way. He would be a homerun hire here at less than half the price and without an ego the size of Texas. Forbes is a tireless recruiter, loved by his former players, very good with media and fans, and can flat coach the game of basketball. Offer him the job at 1.75 million a year and he would walk here from his current job at ETSU. He completely turned around the job there at ETSU in one short year. He has won at every level. Many credit him with being a big part of Bruce Pearl's success while at Tennessee. When things went south there, he ended up on Greg Marshall's staff at WSU. It's no coincidence that when he was added to staff at WSU, that they all of a sudden became an even better basketball team (Two best years in programs history were the two years he was on staff). So, before we back the brinks truck for Greg Marshall, I would consider the fact that Steve Forbes is available, fits the city better, doesn't have an ego the size of Texas, and has a ton more contacts and ties to local and regional coaches and players. Greg Marshall is a GREAT coach. But, he is going to ask for the world in order to come here ($4 million a year, private planes, yada, yada, yada). Forbes on the other hand will take the job for a handshake and the opportunity to take this program back to the top.

I agree.

A similar case can be made for Buzz Williams as well who has won in a conference going against top notch coaches and hall of famers.

They ain't gonna pay a 4 or 5 million buyout to hire anybody, Pearl is out.

Just don't understand the "Bruce Man Love".

(04-09-2016 05:32 PM)RobM Wrote:  Offer Steve Forbes the job and get out of his way. He would be a homerun hire here at less than half the price and without an ego the size of Texas. Forbes is a tireless recruiter, loved by his former players, very good with media and fans, and can flat coach the game of basketball. Offer him the job at 1.75 million a year and he would walk here from his current job at ETSU. He completely turned around the job there at ETSU in one short year. He has won at every level. Many credit him with being a big part of Bruce Pearl's success while at Tennessee. When things went south there, he ended up on Greg Marshall's staff at WSU. It's no coincidence that when he was added to staff at WSU, that they all of a sudden became an even better basketball team (Two best years in programs history were the two years he was on staff). So, before we back the brinks truck for Greg Marshall, I would consider the fact that Steve Forbes is available, fits the city better, doesn't have an ego the size of Texas, and has a ton more contacts and ties to local and regional coaches and players. Greg Marshall is a GREAT coach. But, he is going to ask for the world in order to come here ($4 million a year, private planes, yada, yada, yada). Forbes on the other hand will take the job for a handshake and the opportunity to take this program back to the top.

1.75 million? Heck you could get him for 900K the first year, if it works out then you can bump him up accordingly. I agree he could be a good thrid or fourth option. Who knows?

(04-09-2016 08:33 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 05:32 PM)RobM Wrote:  Offer Steve Forbes the job and get out of his way. He would be a homerun hire here at less than half the price and without an ego the size of Texas. Forbes is a tireless recruiter, loved by his former players, very good with media and fans, and can flat coach the game of basketball. Offer him the job at 1.75 million a year and he would walk here from his current job at ETSU. He completely turned around the job there at ETSU in one short year. He has won at every level. Many credit him with being a big part of Bruce Pearl's success while at Tennessee. When things went south there, he ended up on Greg Marshall's staff at WSU. It's no coincidence that when he was added to staff at WSU, that they all of a sudden became an even better basketball team (Two best years in programs history were the two years he was on staff). So, before we back the brinks truck for Greg Marshall, I would consider the fact that Steve Forbes is available, fits the city better, doesn't have an ego the size of Texas, and has a ton more contacts and ties to local and regional coaches and players. Greg Marshall is a GREAT coach. But, he is going to ask for the world in order to come here ($4 million a year, private planes, yada, yada, yada). Forbes on the other hand will take the job for a handshake and the opportunity to take this program back to the top.

1.75 million? Heck you could get him for 900K the first year, if it works out then you can bump him up accordingly. I agree he could be a good thrid or fourth option. Who knows?

Isn't it nice to know you have a guy like Forbes as a back up plan compared to what happened after our last BB coaching search when Cal left.

If Forbes is the backup plan then the plan is out-freaking-standing

(04-09-2016 08:25 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  They ain't gonna pay a 4 or 5 million buyout to hire anybody, Pearl is out.

When will people learn that everything is negotiable. Remember back a long time ago... yesterday, when we agreed to pay CJP 10% of what we owed him?

(04-09-2016 08:46 PM)John44932 Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 08:25 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  They ain't gonna pay a 4 or 5 million buyout to hire anybody, Pearl is out.

When will people learn that everything is negotiable. Remember back a long time ago... yesterday, when we agreed to pay CJP 10% of what we owed him?

What's our leverage to convince Auburn to lower the buyout?

(04-09-2016 08:49 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 08:46 PM)John44932 Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 08:25 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  They ain't gonna pay a 4 or 5 million buyout to hire anybody, Pearl is out.

When will people learn that everything is negotiable. Remember back a long time ago... yesterday, when we agreed to pay CJP 10% of what we owed him?

What's our leverage to convince Auburn to lower the buyout?

That one is simple. If you have an employee that no longer wants to be there, then you let him go. Imagine how toxic it would be to keep him bound to the contract - what do you think your results are going to be? Most likely he wouldn't have to pay any of that buyout.

We just saw this happen with Jamie Dixon, who had a buyout over $10mil.

(04-09-2016 08:29 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote:  Just don't understand the "Bruce Man Love".

same here. But he sure ain't pulling in the female vote. Most of us would be on stomach cringe alert if we had to get within twenty feet of him.

(04-09-2016 10:06 AM)geedog50 Wrote:  Bruce Pearl??? HELL TO THE NAW NAW!!! What has dude done except beat our TIGERS when we were ranked No.1?? Name just one major or minor accomplishment on his resume. Yet some people act as tho he's won a NC at a prior job or something. The man had one good year at Tenn. and painted himself orange with some students, what else makes him this "WOW" hire? I'll hang up now and wait for the answer.

How about turning a minor violation into a major violation by telling recruits and witnesses to lie to the NCAA.

Violated both state and federal laws by illegally wiretapping phone conversations with a recruit in an attempt to get him to say something bad about another coach. That he could use against the other coach.

(04-09-2016 10:05 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 10:06 AM)geedog50 Wrote:  Bruce Pearl??? HELL TO THE NAW NAW!!! What has dude done except beat our TIGERS when we were ranked No.1?? Name just one major or minor accomplishment on his resume. Yet some people act as tho he's won a NC at a prior job or something. The man had one good year at Tenn. and painted himself orange with some students, what else makes him this "WOW" hire? I'll hang up now and wait for the answer.

How about turning a minor violation into a major violation by telling recruits and witnesses to lie to the NCAA.

Violated both state and federal laws by illegally wiretapping phone conversations with a recruit in an attempt to get him to say something bad about another coach. That he could use against the other coach.

he who is without sin....cast the first stone.
Your former mancrush helped Calipari poach our recruiting class. Then he threw his players and fans under the bus. Finally, a few days after insisting he was going to be here...he abandons his team and gets a new 6 year $11 million dollar deal.

(04-09-2016 08:46 PM)John44932 Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 08:25 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  They ain't gonna pay a 4 or 5 million buyout to hire anybody, Pearl is out.

When will people learn that everything is negotiable. Remember back a long time ago... yesterday, when we agreed to pay CJP 10% of what we owed him?

I understand some people are in to fat chicks, but this is ridiculous.

Simply because VT owes us a coach.

(04-10-2016 10:26 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  Simply because VT owes us a coach.

Nice. I'm for that. Dude is big on motivating his guys. Plus he's a character.

I think he would kill it here. Gotta' be easier to recruit here than the mountains of VA. He also had some success at an urban university, so he's used to the environment - maybe he even misses it a little...

I wanted him from day one back when Cal left

He's a good fit