(04-13-2016 01:22 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 11:54 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 11:47 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  " The admin has to do their part "

If this happens, Mick will do his part, and the fans will follow. Not since Joe Steger and Bob Goin have we had real leadership, vision, and the 'skill to achieve' with regards to UC Athletics.

The 'skill to achieve' has been Ono and Babcock/Bohn's biggest downfall. Lots and lots of lip service (including tweets, FB posts, Instagram pics, and artist renderings) but zero results.

I thought Nancy got us into the Big East?

SuperFly, I was there and I was one of those who was booing.

#mancrush

Yeah on the face of it hearing about an SHU transfer doesn't exactly inspire - but you can rephrase that to: getting the best player (POY) in the NEC and it sounds a lot better.

I like that he has the ability to seek the rim and put the basketball though it - an important part of the game, or so I am told.

The low assist / high turnover numbers scare me a bit though. The shooting percentages aren't exactly popping either.

That said I am happy we got him and think he is a solid pick up - he is a lead guard who is also an able scorer. Generally a good type of guy to have.

Van Exel comparisons are a bit premature - although if you watch him bring the ball up the floor it does kind of look like Van Exel's loose, smooth, left handed, high dribble style

(04-13-2016 01:18 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 12:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 07:34 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 07:09 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Every season we watch the November/December parade of low major opponents through 5th/3rd and often see a lights out performance from one member of one of those teams. I'm always sitting there asking myself, "how does Northwest-Central-Valley A&M have a guy that good?".

Here's hoping Broome is that guy and now he'll be wearing a Bearcat uniform. On the flip side though, we watched Ge'Lawn Guyn average almost 19 points last season after transferring to a low major. This from a player Cincinnati fans believed couldn't score. At some point, one must question UC's offensive approach (or lack thereof). Seems many of the UC recruits were pretty good scorers before arriving here.

Yup

So the Guyn example makes me ask...is it the players or us it the coach/system?

Its often that they are playing against competition that is grade 13-16 of high school. If anyone thinks Guyn does that here against the schedule we played they are hitting the chronic.

Broome went 3 of 16 from the field against UCONN for 7 points in 38 minutes. Take from that what you will. Perhaps they keyed on him. Perhaps he was just exposed by having quality athletes on defense. Time will tell.

Like I said earlier, I expect him to contribute about like the overlooked, lower tier JUCOs that we tend to target.

UC player goes 1-6 and 0-2 from 3 in 34 minutes against UCONN this year. But I didn't hear a peep that Evans was overmatched. or doesn't belong on the roster..
Caupain 3-11 vrs UCONN and 8pts in 36 minutes.

A nice try at hypothetical, but your logic is flawed. Get him on the court and let's
see the eyeball test...the fortunate part is that the professionals (Coaches) do the recruiting,not the fans..
.

Some Posters just look slamming anything that comes out of Clifton that is positive news...it helps their agenda...

(04-13-2016 02:24 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 01:18 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 12:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 07:34 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 07:09 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Every season we watch the November/December parade of low major opponents through 5th/3rd and often see a lights out performance from one member of one of those teams. I'm always sitting there asking myself, "how does Northwest-Central-Valley A&M have a guy that good?".

Here's hoping Broome is that guy and now he'll be wearing a Bearcat uniform. On the flip side though, we watched Ge'Lawn Guyn average almost 19 points last season after transferring to a low major. This from a player Cincinnati fans believed couldn't score. At some point, one must question UC's offensive approach (or lack thereof). Seems many of the UC recruits were pretty good scorers before arriving here.

Yup

So the Guyn example makes me ask...is it the players or us it the coach/system?

Its often that they are playing against competition that is grade 13-16 of high school. If anyone thinks Guyn does that here against the schedule we played they are hitting the chronic.

Broome went 3 of 16 from the field against UCONN for 7 points in 38 minutes. Take from that what you will. Perhaps they keyed on him. Perhaps he was just exposed by having quality athletes on defense. Time will tell.

Like I said earlier, I expect him to contribute about like the overlooked, lower tier JUCOs that we tend to target.

UC player goes 1-6 and 0-2 from 3 in 34 minutes against UCONN this year. But I didn't hear a peep that Evans was overmatched. or doesn't belong on the roster..
Caupain 3-11 vrs UCONN and 8pts in 36 minutes.

A nice try at hypothetical, but your logic is flawed. Get him on the court and let's
see the eyeball test...the fortunate part is that the professionals (Coaches) do the recruiting,not the fans..
.

Some Posters just look slamming anything that comes out of Clifton that is positive news...it helps their agenda...

Not all posters are UC fans. Some are fans of other schools and take pleasure in being an annoyance.

Glad they got Broome. I'd have rather had a top 50 high school PG but that wasn't happening so I'm good with this. He won;t average near what he did at SH but with the talent around him he won't have to. But the kid has a nose for the basket which I love. I know Cobb wasn't the greatest 2 guard on the planet but he was fearless on offense which I think this team needed desperately. Averaging 23 a game tells me this kid feels the same way. Reading his quotes, I loved what I was reading. He wants to play in big games and is willing to sacrifice FG attempts if that's what it takes.

We all know his comp level was low compared to what he's coming to, but he has 1157 points as a sophomore. He legitimately could have 2000+ Div pts when he graduates that's high company.

The stat I do like about him - he had two games last year where he got to the foul line 20+ times, Farad Cobb got to the foul line 25 times all year. Count me as rather having the transfer player be the guy that found out he was too good for his level, than the guys that transfer because they couldn't cut it on their team.

(04-14-2016 11:51 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  We all know his comp level was low compared to what he's coming to, but he has 1157 points as a sophomore. He legitimately could have 2000+ Div pts when he graduates that's high company.

The stat I do like about him - he had two games last year where he got to the foul line 20+ times, Farad Cobb got to the foul line 25 times all year. Count me as rather having the transfer player be the guy that found out he was too good for his level, than the guys that transfer because they couldn't cut it on their team.

20+ times a game- twice? That's awesome. Bet we haven't had a guy do that like... Ever under Cronin. Last 2 guys that could have got to the foul line that much... Fortson... Logan... Maybe Kenyon?

Not saying this kid is anywhere near that calibre, but tells me he is willing to force the issue a bit which almost nobody is a good complement to guys on this team who seem a bit timid to do so at times...

(04-14-2016 12:01 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:51 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  We all know his comp level was low compared to what he's coming to, but he has 1157 points as a sophomore. He legitimately could have 2000+ Div pts when he graduates that's high company.

The stat I do like about him - he had two games last year where he got to the foul line 20+ times, Farad Cobb got to the foul line 25 times all year. Count me as rather having the transfer player be the guy that found out he was too good for his level, than the guys that transfer because they couldn't cut it on their team.

20+ times a game- twice? That's awesome. Bet we haven't had a guy do that like... Ever under Cronin. Last 2 guys that could have got to the foul line that much... Fortson... Logan... Maybe Kenyon?

Not saying this kid is anywhere near that calibre, but tells me he is willing to force the issue a bit which almost nobody is a good complement to guys on this team who seem a bit timid to do so at times...

When 75% of your offensive sets typically consist of passing the ball along the wing for 20 seconds while giving cursory glances to a fronted post then jacking up a contested three, you're not going to generate a ton of free throws.

I'm really excited. I don't know if he's really the next Nick Van Exel, but I would settle for Deonta Vaughn...

(04-14-2016 11:51 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  We all know his comp level was low compared to what he's coming to, but he has 1157 points as a sophomore. He legitimately could have 2000+ Div pts when he graduates that's high company.

The stat I do like about him - he had two games last year where he got to the foul line 20+ times, Farad Cobb got to the foul line 25 times all year. Count me as rather having the transfer player be the guy that found out he was too good for his level, than the guys that transfer because they couldn't cut it on their team.

Good points.

Broome is aggressive in attacking the rim - makes for a lot of contact situations. Broome, Evans and Cumberland could spend a lot of time at the stripe.

(04-15-2016 07:57 AM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 11:51 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  We all know his comp level was low compared to what he's coming to, but he has 1157 points as a sophomore. He legitimately could have 2000+ Div pts when he graduates that's high company.

The stat I do like about him - he had two games last year where he got to the foul line 20+ times, Farad Cobb got to the foul line 25 times all year. Count me as rather having the transfer player be the guy that found out he was too good for his level, than the guys that transfer because they couldn't cut it on their team.

Good points.

Broome is aggressive in attacking the rim - makes for a lot of contact situations. Broome, Evans and Cumberland could spend a lot of time at the stripe.

amen. i really dig how many shots he took inside the arc. that'll probably change once he gets used to mick's offense though. it'd be nice if the offense ran through gary. maybe it does. i know that's basketball terminology

Little update from the Hartford Courant:

Quote:East Hartford's Cane Broome Anxious To Get Back On Court With Cincinnati
Cane Broome
Dom Amore Dom AmoreContact Reporter

East Hartford's Cane Broome sitting a year, but improving, helping Bearcats behind the scenes

Cane Broome, who transferred from Sacred Heart to Cincinnati, is sitting out this season as a redshirt, but is still a part in the Bearcats' success.

"Cane's been a big factor for our season," coach Mick Cronin said, "because he makes our practices better. He's so hard to play defense against. Our red team, Cane's team, wins 50 percent of the time [in practice against the starters]. It's made Troy Caupain and Kevin Johnson better players."

Broome, 6-foot, from East Hartford, was the NEC Player of the Year as a sophomore at SHU, averaging 23.1 points. Looking to move up to a high major program, he settled on Cincinnati.

"[Sitting a year], it's a little tough," Broome said. "But it's been good, we're having a great season and it's not like I'm missing out. They keep me engaged. I'm really enjoying myself."

Broome, 22, who will have two years of eligibility, is being groomed to move into the backcourt when seniors Caupain and Johnson depart.

"I'm trying to do two things for Cane," Cronin said. "Offensively, get his turnovers down, if you look at his stats from Sacred Heart, and make him more consistent from three-point range. And obviously defense at our level is different. But his speed is unprecedented, his quickness. You cannot stay in front of him. He's going to be fun to coach."

Playing against the Bearcats' experience, strong cast is toughening him up for the task ahead. He averaged 3.8 turnovers per game at Sacred Heart, and shot 33.1 percent on threes, 53.7 percent inside the arc.

"I'm learning a lot about toughness," he said, "it's more about mental than physical. [Cronin] has helped me a lot in slowing the game down, reading the defense. The defensive philosophy we play with here has really helped my game; I wasn't really always a good defensive player. Because I play so fast, I'm going to have some turnovers. He knows that. Playing that fast, I might have one or two, but if I can keep it to one or two, that's pretty good. I need to improve my three-point shooting percentage — I can get by a lot of guards, scouting report right now would probably be to give him some space."

Durham, Enoch return

UConn got Juwan Durham, who has been out since Jan. 19 with a left foot sprain, and Steven Enoch, who has been out since Jan. 14 with a stress reaction in his right foot, back to play at Cincinnati. The plan going in was to use them only if needed, but Kevin Ollie, with eight players available, put Durham in with 13:18 left in the first half, for a minute, and then inserted Enoch with 12:54 to go. Enoch ended up playing six minutes, getting a foul and two turnovers, and Durham four minutes, getting an assist and a foul. "They've got to play better, though, when they get in," Ollie said. "They both gave up offensive rebounds. We have to be tough when we have our second group come in. I thought Christian Vital [13 points off the bench] played a good game, he competed the whole night and I'm very proud of that, but when those guys come in, they've got to compete at a high level. I'm not just going to give out minutes, I'll just play with the six I've been playing with." … Cincinnati honored its 1992 Final Four team at halftime in ceremonies that included video greetings from former coach Bob Huggins, now at West Virginia, and Nick Van Exel, who is working with the NBA's Memphis Grizzlies. … UConn went 11-for-14 from the free-throw line. … The Huskies have lost five consecutive games at Cincinnati, dating back to their last win, Feb. 27, 2011. … Rodney Purvis twisted his right ankle late in the game, but appeared to be all right as he left the arena. ... Fifth Third Arena will undergo an extensive renovation following this season. The Bearcats are considering playing home games at the 17,000-seat U.S. Bank Arena downtown, or at the University of Northern Kentucky, just across the Ohio River. Cincinnati Gardens, where the NBA Royals played from 1957-72, was sold and closed down last year.