(04-12-2016 06:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:47 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:49 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:11 AM)k5james Wrote:  This thread is full of objectivity amirite?

Facts are facts. SDSU returns almost its entire two deep from a team that cut through the MWC like an 800lb gorilla with a chainsaw for a *****.

Meanwhile Boise loses both coordinators and almost their entire defense from a team that finished fourth in their division...

Welp much like USF, y'all gotta get past my Huskies first and we're no joke (unless it's a bowl game). Looking forward to the game this year!

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I'm going to be very honest with you. I'm not very worried about losing to NIU. Like your program, like what you've done, but if we play as we are capable of playing at home, we should win this game handily. If we can't then we're going to have problems anyway.

Two Words: Rocky Long. Or maybe South Alabama. Rocky always seems to lose an OOC game that he wasn't supposed to lose. I really think SDSU looks good on paper and might be the second or third most talented team in the running for the access bid, but I wouldn't be surprised if SDSU drops the ball on a gimmie game or two. Cheers!

The old man has turned a new leaf. He used to not care about bowl games either. Ask your conference mate how that worked out for them...

We return the MWC offensive, defensive and special teams players of the year. We lose three starters on defense but due to injuries their backups have a ton of experience. One pretty much had has way with the Cincinnati OL in the Hawaii bowl.

On offense we lose a RT, RG, FB and WR. We've been recruiting OL like crazy recently and have guys ready to step in.

We may slip up this year but I wouldn't bet on it.

Talent wise with your schedule I could put SDSU at 12-0 going into the MWC game. You guys avoid Boise, Air Force and New Mexico in the MWC west and SHOULD be 4-0 in the OOC. Should. I think Rocky Long is a coach who chokes in easy games and comes alive in more challenging games. South Alabama and Cincy games are good examples of last years team. Houston, Boise and SDSU are the top 3 on paper for the access bowl. My surprise teams are USF and (yeah homer pick) ECU. Temple could be good too. I think Cincy will disappoint...very overrated coach. We shall see. Cheers!

(04-12-2016 06:01 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:49 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:11 AM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:15 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Ahhh I'm sure you're a completely unbiased opinion on the matter

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This thread is full of objectivity amirite?

Facts are facts. SDSU returns almost its entire two deep from a team that cut through the MWC like an 800lb gorilla with a chainsaw for a *****.

Meanwhile Boise loses both coordinators and almost their entire defense from a team that finished fourth in their division...

Welp much like USF, y'all gotta get past my Huskies first and we're no joke (unless it's a bowl game). Looking forward to the game this year!

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I'm going to be very honest with you. I'm not very worried about losing to NIU. Like your program, like what you've done, but if we play as we are capable of playing at home, we should win this game handily. If we can't then we're going to have problems anyway.

I believe USF will win that game as well, hell of a squad y'all got coming back tbis year. But NIU is not a team to fall asleep at the wheel with, just ask tOSU last year when it almosy cost them

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I never sleep on NIU....a good Iowa football team has had some very rough moments with you guys...I wonder will Iowa ever play NIU in Chicago again? Win win I thought. Cheers!

(04-12-2016 09:14 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:01 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:49 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:11 AM)k5james Wrote:  This thread is full of objectivity amirite?

Facts are facts. SDSU returns almost its entire two deep from a team that cut through the MWC like an 800lb gorilla with a chainsaw for a *****.

Meanwhile Boise loses both coordinators and almost their entire defense from a team that finished fourth in their division...

Welp much like USF, y'all gotta get past my Huskies first and we're no joke (unless it's a bowl game). Looking forward to the game this year!

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I'm going to be very honest with you. I'm not very worried about losing to NIU. Like your program, like what you've done, but if we play as we are capable of playing at home, we should win this game handily. If we can't then we're going to have problems anyway.

I believe USF will win that game as well, hell of a squad y'all got coming back tbis year. But NIU is not a team to fall asleep at the wheel with, just ask tOSU last year when it almosy cost them

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I never sleep on NIU....a good Iowa football team has had some very rough moments with you guys...I wonder will Iowa ever play NIU in Chicago again? Win win I thought. Cheers!

Sometimes less is more. Just saying

(04-12-2016 09:14 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:01 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:49 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:11 AM)k5james Wrote:  This thread is full of objectivity amirite?

Facts are facts. SDSU returns almost its entire two deep from a team that cut through the MWC like an 800lb gorilla with a chainsaw for a *****.

Meanwhile Boise loses both coordinators and almost their entire defense from a team that finished fourth in their division...

Welp much like USF, y'all gotta get past my Huskies first and we're no joke (unless it's a bowl game). Looking forward to the game this year!

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I'm going to be very honest with you. I'm not very worried about losing to NIU. Like your program, like what you've done, but if we play as we are capable of playing at home, we should win this game handily. If we can't then we're going to have problems anyway.

I believe USF will win that game as well, hell of a squad y'all got coming back tbis year. But NIU is not a team to fall asleep at the wheel with, just ask tOSU last year when it almosy cost them

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I never sleep on NIU....a good Iowa football team has had some very rough moments with you guys...I wonder will Iowa ever play NIU in Chicago again? Win win I thought. Cheers!

We've partnered with the White Sox (one of their very high of members is a prominent NIU alumni) and our goal is to make an annual or biannual game in Chicago at US Cellular field to try and tap into our Chicago fan base. We have a very large amount of NIU alumni in Chicago who complain about midweek games in Dekalb being too far, this is NIU's answer (hopefully) to that sentiment

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(04-12-2016 09:00 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 08:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  The old man has turned a new leaf. He used to not care about bowl games either. Ask your conference mate how that worked out for them...

We return the MWC offensive, defensive and special teams players of the year. We lose three starters on defense but due to injuries their backups have a ton of experience. One pretty much had has way with the Cincinnati OL in the Hawaii bowl.

On offense we lose a RT, RG, FB and WR. We've been recruiting OL like crazy recently and have guys ready to step in.

We may slip up this year but I wouldn't bet on it.

cincy was getting destroyed by everyone by seasons end...the life had been taken from them

it was 51-3 halftime in usf vs cincy

Hmm...

11/07/15 @ 8 Houston L 30-33
11/14/15 Tulsa W 49-38
11/20/15 @ South Fla. L 27-65
11/28/15 @ East Caro. W 19-16

If losing by three to mighty Houston and beating two other conference mates is getting destroyed by everyone I'd hate to see what you call what we did to them.

Quote:but i kinda have HUGE question marks for sdsu aswell ..

like i noted in an earlier response i have sdsu #2 "on paper" but don't have them anywhere in my top 5 from my gut feeling

sdsu had an amazing run to finish the year, but it was in arguably the worst division in fbs football last year, from performance, and your bowl was against a team that was imploding

but sdsu schedule isn't very good next year ..so even if sdsu isn't great they might still win a ton...a rebuilding cal and niu who could both end up 7wins and under are the best 2 teams you play next year

What questions do you have about our team other than the schedule?

watch the games and stop looking at blank stats

Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

and barely beating a 2 sub .500 teams and i mean barely (especially for ecu), proves your point how????
and i call what you did to them destroying, like everyone else did who was decent....it was 51 TO 3 at HALFTIME!!!!!!! When they played USF....

and atleast those teams got to play against cincy's starting qb...
if you want to hype up that win into something it wasnt, go ahead ..but everyone not biased noticed that though talented they were in complete disarray when you played them...their qb wasnt even injured "he chose not to make the trip"

but for questions
1) you have no legit passing game
2) your run game is straight forward and has very little to do with trickery (like the triple options)

1 and 2 make me question how sdsu would do versus teams more talented than them, straight up running and winning the line of scrimmage is something you can do versus everyone in the MWC as you out-recruited everyone you played (didnt/dont play boise)

just x and o's wise i truly question how youd do versus better teams
which is evident in your cal ad psu games..your run game as completely shut down in those 2 games

3) you lost south alabama

K5james, Cincinnati was a mess going down stretch. We were up 51-3 at half and played all backups for at least a half including backup QB Steven Bench the entire second half. If starters stay in we score 80 easily.

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:00 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 08:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  The old man has turned a new leaf. He used to not care about bowl games either. Ask your conference mate how that worked out for them...

We return the MWC offensive, defensive and special teams players of the year. We lose three starters on defense but due to injuries their backups have a ton of experience. One pretty much had has way with the Cincinnati OL in the Hawaii bowl.

On offense we lose a RT, RG, FB and WR. We've been recruiting OL like crazy recently and have guys ready to step in.

We may slip up this year but I wouldn't bet on it.

cincy was getting destroyed by everyone by seasons end...the life had been taken from them

it was 51-3 halftime in usf vs cincy

Hmm...

11/07/15 @ 8 Houston L 30-33
11/14/15 Tulsa W 49-38
11/20/15 @ South Fla. L 27-65
11/28/15 @ East Caro. W 19-16

If losing by three to mighty Houston and beating two other conference mates is getting destroyed by everyone I'd hate to see what you call what we did to them.

Quote:but i kinda have HUGE question marks for sdsu aswell ..

like i noted in an earlier response i have sdsu #2 "on paper" but don't have them anywhere in my top 5 from my gut feeling

sdsu had an amazing run to finish the year, but it was in arguably the worst division in fbs football last year, from performance, and your bowl was against a team that was imploding

but sdsu schedule isn't very good next year ..so even if sdsu isn't great they might still win a ton...a rebuilding cal and niu who could both end up 7wins and under are the best 2 teams you play next year

What questions do you have about our team other than the schedule?

watch the games and stop looking at blank stats

Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

Seems like you need to take your own advice. Houston was never up three TDs in that game it all. In fact Houston's largest lead was 16 points late in the 3rd. It was a three point game for the last half of the 4th quarter.

Quote:and barely beating a 2 sub .500 teams and i mean barely (especially for ecu), proves your point how????

My point? They're called facts. You said they were blown out by everybody down the stretch which was clearly factually incorrect. They were blown out by exactly ONE team.

Quote:and i call what you did to them destroying, like everyone else did who was decent....it was 51 TO 3 at HALFTIME!!!!!!! When they played USF....

So USF was the only decent team they played down the stretch?

Quote:and atleast those teams got to play against cincy's starting qb...
if you want to hype up that win into something it wasnt, go ahead ..but everyone not biased noticed that though talented they were in complete disarray when you played them...their qb wasnt even injured "he chose not to make the trip"

The same QB that started against SDSU started against USF but that doesn't stop you from hyping up that win.

Quote:but for questions
1) you have no legit passing game

We have a decent passing game we just don't need to throw the ball 40 times like you spread teams. We run the ball until you can prove that you can stop us.

Quote:2) your run game is straight forward and has very little to do with trickery (like the triple options)

You clearly didn't watch us play if you believe this. No we aren't an option team but our run game is far from straight forward.

Quote:1 and 2 make me question how sdsu would do versus teams more talented than them, straight up running and winning the line of scrimmage is something you can do versus everyone in the MWC as you out-recruited everyone you played (didnt/dont play boise)

just x and o's wise i truly question how youd do versus better teams
which is evident in your cal ad psu games..your run game as completely shut down in those 2 games

Lack of running didn't cost us those games turnovers did. Those got us behind which forced us away from running the ball. We had 12 turnovers all season. Almost half came in those two games alone.

Quote:3) you lost south alabama

That was a terrible loss there's no denying that. It may have been a blessing in disguise though as that game seems to have been the turning point for Rocky changing his stripes.

(04-12-2016 10:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  K5james, Cincinnati was a mess going down stretch. We were up 51-3 at half and played all backups for at least a half including backup QB Steven Bench the entire second half. If starters stay in we score 80 easily.

They were clearly a mess in your game. Against everybody else they clearly weren't...

(04-12-2016 10:42 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:00 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 08:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  The old man has turned a new leaf. He used to not care about bowl games either. Ask your conference mate how that worked out for them...

We return the MWC offensive, defensive and special teams players of the year. We lose three starters on defense but due to injuries their backups have a ton of experience. One pretty much had has way with the Cincinnati OL in the Hawaii bowl.

On offense we lose a RT, RG, FB and WR. We've been recruiting OL like crazy recently and have guys ready to step in.

We may slip up this year but I wouldn't bet on it.

cincy was getting destroyed by everyone by seasons end...the life had been taken from them

it was 51-3 halftime in usf vs cincy

Hmm...

11/07/15 @ 8 Houston L 30-33
11/14/15 Tulsa W 49-38
11/20/15 @ South Fla. L 27-65
11/28/15 @ East Caro. W 19-16

If losing by three to mighty Houston and beating two other conference mates is getting destroyed by everyone I'd hate to see what you call what we did to them.

Quote:but i kinda have HUGE question marks for sdsu aswell ..

like i noted in an earlier response i have sdsu #2 "on paper" but don't have them anywhere in my top 5 from my gut feeling

sdsu had an amazing run to finish the year, but it was in arguably the worst division in fbs football last year, from performance, and your bowl was against a team that was imploding

but sdsu schedule isn't very good next year ..so even if sdsu isn't great they might still win a ton...a rebuilding cal and niu who could both end up 7wins and under are the best 2 teams you play next year

What questions do you have about our team other than the schedule?

watch the games and stop looking at blank stats

Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

Seems like you need to take your own advice. Houston was never up three TDs in that game it all. In fact Houston's largest lead was 16 points late in the 3rd. It was a three point game for the last half of the 4th quarter.

Quote:and barely beating a 2 sub .500 teams and i mean barely (especially for ecu), proves your point how????

My point? They're called facts. You said they were blown out by everybody down the stretch which was clearly factually incorrect. They were blown out by exactly ONE team.

Quote:and i call what you did to them destroying, like everyone else did who was decent....it was 51 TO 3 at HALFTIME!!!!!!! When they played USF....

So USF was the only decent team they played down the stretch?

Quote:and atleast those teams got to play against cincy's starting qb...
if you want to hype up that win into something it wasnt, go ahead ..but everyone not biased noticed that though talented they were in complete disarray when you played them...their qb wasnt even injured "he chose not to make the trip"

The same QB that started against SDSU started against USF but that doesn't stop you from hyping up that win.

Quote:but for questions
1) you have no legit passing game

We have a decent passing game we just don't need to throw the ball 40 times like you spread teams. We run the ball until you can prove that you can stop us.

Quote:2) your run game is straight forward and has very little to do with trickery (like the triple options)

You clearly didn't watch us play if you believe this. No we aren't an option team but our run game is far from straight forward.

Quote:1 and 2 make me question how sdsu would do versus teams more talented than them, straight up running and winning the line of scrimmage is something you can do versus everyone in the MWC as you out-recruited everyone you played (didnt/dont play boise)

just x and o's wise i truly question how youd do versus better teams
which is evident in your cal ad psu games..your run game as completely shut down in those 2 games

Lack of running didn't cost us those games turnovers did. Those got us behind which forced us away from running the ball. We had 12 turnovers all season. Almost half came in those two games alone.

Quote:3) you lost south alabama

That was a terrible loss there's no denying that. It may have been a blessing in disguise though as that game seems to have been the turning point for Rocky changing his stripes.

1) you clearly didnt read where i wrote , the 3rd td lead was taken away by a phantom call...clearly proving my exact point that you are looking at a stat sheet..and have zero clue how the game went...when you score a td and its taken away by a call it doesnt get put on the stat sheet....Houston was never in real jeopardy and a ref blunder (and an injury) kept the score close and cause a 14pt swing when the game was over...

and you didnt watch a single Cincy game i bet, stop telling people who watched every game how they were...most people in this forum said sdsu wasnt good in the pregame picking but that cincy was collapsing with tubs..no one expected that score but everyone predicted that winner despite thinking sdsu wasn't good...even the ecu game was a major sign of collapse, cincy was easily putting 40 good defenses to start the year and the previous year (and viewed as the by far best offense in the league preseason) but were struggling to put up any points versus a not good ecu...

2) gunner kiel started the usf game, the 5tar qb who was a redshirt junior...hayden moore the freshmen started for sdsu...i hate when people try to call people out on "facts" but are completely wrong...but go ahead
your facts are just not accurate at all..but live in your lies its a free world

3) "Lack of running didn't cost us those games"..3yds a carry (dramatically lower than average) and pumpreys statistical worst two games of the season on a team heavily reliant on the run but whatever floats your boat

4) obviously you arent running the same run play but i watched numerous sdsu games, your offense is built around winning the line of scrimmage, which was my point..its an offense reliant on talent in respect to your competition

5) the turning point was that you started playing your division schedule versus horrible teams

you seem set in your opinion of sdsu ....no need to debate you think beating the MWC west and a collapsing cincy has proven sdsu is legit, thats fine, we all have opinions, next year they will have a chance to prove themselves if they can handle their relatively easy schedule and get the access bowl..IMO sdsu will lose atleast 3 games, even with the easy schedule

(04-12-2016 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  1) you clearly didnt read where i wrote , the 3rd td lead was taken away by a phantom call...clearly proving my exact point that you are looking at a stat sheet..and have zero clue how the game went...when you score a td and its taken away by a call it doesnt get put on the stat sheet....Houston was never in real jeopardy and a ref blunder (and an injury) kept the score close and cause a 14pt swing when the game was over...

I read what you wrote you just clearly have trouble with the English language. Either way are you really blaming referees? That is weak sauce. When you score a TD and it gets taken away by a call guess what? You did t score a TD. Never in real jeopardy? It was a three point game with seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter...

Quote:and you didnt watch a single Cincy game i bet, stop telling people who watched every game how they were...most people in this forum said sdsu wasnt good in the pregame picking but that cincy was collapsing with tubs..no one expected that score but everyone predicted that winner despite thinking sdsu wasn't good...even the ecu game was a major sign of collapse, cincy was easily putting 40 good defenses to start the year and the previous year (and viewed as the by far best offense in the league preseason) but were struggling to put up any points versus a not good ecu...

I watched two Cincy games. How many SDSU games did you watch? You didn't say they were struggling. You said they were getting killed by everybody. They clearly weren't.

Quote:2) gunner kiel started the usf game, the 5tar qb who was a redshirt junior...hayden moore the freshmen started for sdsu...i hate when people try to call people out on "facts" but are completely wrong...but go ahead
your facts are just not accurate at all..but live in your lies its a free world.

My bad. I forgot that Moore came in in relief of Kiel in that game.

Quote:3) "Lack of running didn't cost us those games"..3yds a carry (dramatically lower than average) and pumpreys statistical worst two games of the season on a team heavily reliant on the run but whatever floats your boat

Three fumbles (Penn State) and two INTs (Cal) were the difference. Talk about not watching games. VS Penn State SDSU was up a point with less than two minutes to go in the first half and fumbled a punt return which led to a PSU score and then fumbled on the first play of the very next drive which led to another score to go into the half down by two TDs. Despite the terrible end to the half SDSU was driving in Penn State territory down by six in the 4th quarter when another fumbled was returned for a TD which turned a close game into an ugly one as it basically took the running game away completely due to time.

Quote:4) obviously you arent running the same run play but i watched numerous sdsu games, your offense is built around winning the line of scrimmage, which was my point..its an offense reliant on talent in respect to your competition

Unless you're running the triple option or veer all of football is reliant on talent in respect to your competition.

Quote:5) the turning point was that you started playing your division schedule versus horrible teams

you seem set in your opinion of sdsu ....no need to debate you think beating the MWC west and a collapsing cincy has proven sdsu is legit, thats fine, we all have opinions, next year they will have a chance to prove themselves if they can handle their relatively easy schedule and get the access bowl..IMO sdsu will lose atleast 3 games, even with the easy schedule

I guess we didn't play any Mountain division teams on the way to winning the Conference?

We'll see. I mean nobody saw Houston doing what they did last year but the most in depth Houston fans.

(04-12-2016 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:42 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:00 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 08:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  cincy was getting destroyed by everyone by seasons end...the life had been taken from them

it was 51-3 halftime in usf vs cincy

Hmm...

11/07/15 @ 8 Houston L 30-33
11/14/15 Tulsa W 49-38
11/20/15 @ South Fla. L 27-65
11/28/15 @ East Caro. W 19-16

If losing by three to mighty Houston and beating two other conference mates is getting destroyed by everyone I'd hate to see what you call what we did to them.

Quote:but i kinda have HUGE question marks for sdsu aswell ..

like i noted in an earlier response i have sdsu #2 "on paper" but don't have them anywhere in my top 5 from my gut feeling

sdsu had an amazing run to finish the year, but it was in arguably the worst division in fbs football last year, from performance, and your bowl was against a team that was imploding

but sdsu schedule isn't very good next year ..so even if sdsu isn't great they might still win a ton...a rebuilding cal and niu who could both end up 7wins and under are the best 2 teams you play next year

What questions do you have about our team other than the schedule?

watch the games and stop looking at blank stats

Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

Seems like you need to take your own advice. Houston was never up three TDs in that game it all. In fact Houston's largest lead was 16 points late in the 3rd. It was a three point game for the last half of the 4th quarter.

Quote:and barely beating a 2 sub .500 teams and i mean barely (especially for ecu), proves your point how????

My point? They're called facts. You said they were blown out by everybody down the stretch which was clearly factually incorrect. They were blown out by exactly ONE team.

Quote:and i call what you did to them destroying, like everyone else did who was decent....it was 51 TO 3 at HALFTIME!!!!!!! When they played USF....

So USF was the only decent team they played down the stretch?

Quote:and atleast those teams got to play against cincy's starting qb...
if you want to hype up that win into something it wasnt, go ahead ..but everyone not biased noticed that though talented they were in complete disarray when you played them...their qb wasnt even injured "he chose not to make the trip"

The same QB that started against SDSU started against USF but that doesn't stop you from hyping up that win.

Quote:but for questions
1) you have no legit passing game

We have a decent passing game we just don't need to throw the ball 40 times like you spread teams. We run the ball until you can prove that you can stop us.

Quote:2) your run game is straight forward and has very little to do with trickery (like the triple options)

You clearly didn't watch us play if you believe this. No we aren't an option team but our run game is far from straight forward.

Quote:1 and 2 make me question how sdsu would do versus teams more talented than them, straight up running and winning the line of scrimmage is something you can do versus everyone in the MWC as you out-recruited everyone you played (didnt/dont play boise)

just x and o's wise i truly question how youd do versus better teams
which is evident in your cal ad psu games..your run game as completely shut down in those 2 games

Lack of running didn't cost us those games turnovers did. Those got us behind which forced us away from running the ball. We had 12 turnovers all season. Almost half came in those two games alone.

Quote:3) you lost south alabama

That was a terrible loss there's no denying that. It may have been a blessing in disguise though as that game seems to have been the turning point for Rocky changing his stripes.

1) you clearly didnt read where i wrote , the 3rd td lead was taken away by a phantom call...clearly proving my exact point that you are looking at a stat sheet..and have zero clue how the game went...when you score a td and its taken away by a call it doesnt get put on the stat sheet....Houston was never in real jeopardy and a ref blunder (and an injury) kept the score close and cause a 14pt swing when the game was over...

and you didnt watch a single Cincy game i bet, stop telling people who watched every game how they were...most people in this forum said sdsu wasnt good in the pregame picking but that cincy was collapsing with tubs..no one expected that score but everyone predicted that winner despite thinking sdsu wasn't good...even the ecu game was a major sign of collapse, cincy was easily putting 40 good defenses to start the year and the previous year (and viewed as the by far best offense in the league preseason) but were struggling to put up any points versus a not good ecu...

2) gunner kiel started the usf game, the 5tar qb who was a redshirt junior...hayden moore the freshmen started for sdsu...i hate when people try to call people out on "facts" but are completely wrong...but go ahead
your facts are just not accurate at all..but live in your lies its a free world

3) "Lack of running didn't cost us those games"..3yds a carry (dramatically lower than average) and pumpreys statistical worst two games of the season on a team heavily reliant on the run but whatever floats your boat

4) obviously you arent running the same run play but i watched numerous sdsu games, your offense is built around winning the line of scrimmage, which was my point..its an offense reliant on talent in respect to your competition

5) the turning point was that you started playing your division schedule versus horrible teams

you seem set in your opinion of sdsu ....no need to debate you think beating the MWC west and a collapsing cincy has proven sdsu is legit, thats fine, we all have opinions, next year they will have a chance to prove themselves if they can handle their relatively easy schedule and get the access bowl..IMO sdsu will lose atleast 3 games, even with the easy schedule

I agree with you though sdsu seemed to have a pretty good defense. If anything I think their defense will need to step up again an carry them this year.

Quote:Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

You need to be more clear if your trying to say the 3rd td was taken away. The way you worded it makes it sound like you thought they were actually up by 3 td's.

I'm sure not going to bet against Houston to be in the Access slot, and if they happen to stumble, I'd look to Boise State to fill it. Everyone else will be looking up at these two teams, in my opinion. I'm not as sold on Temple as the prognosticator in the video, but I'm clearly expecting a breakout year for USF...things are looking very good for the Bulls. I expect them to win the AAC -East, but fall to Houston in the CCG. Same with SDSU. I think they'll be quite good and win the mediocre MWC-West, but fall to Boise St in their CCG. Boise State has the tougher road in the Mountain Division with Air Force and Utah State, but they'll take care of business, imo.

(p.s., nice of this young man to mention Marshall, but I don't think we are favored to win our own conference, and we can very easily end up 8-4 this year. Certainly don't belong on this list...but next year, who knows?)

(04-13-2016 01:16 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 11:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:42 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 09:00 PM)k5james Wrote:  Hmm...

11/07/15 @ 8 Houston L 30-33
11/14/15 Tulsa W 49-38
11/20/15 @ South Fla. L 27-65
11/28/15 @ East Caro. W 19-16

If losing by three to mighty Houston and beating two other conference mates is getting destroyed by everyone I'd hate to see what you call what we did to them.


What questions do you have about our team other than the schedule?

watch the games and stop looking at blank stats

Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

Seems like you need to take your own advice. Houston was never up three TDs in that game it all. In fact Houston's largest lead was 16 points late in the 3rd. It was a three point game for the last half of the 4th quarter.

Quote:and barely beating a 2 sub .500 teams and i mean barely (especially for ecu), proves your point how????

My point? They're called facts. You said they were blown out by everybody down the stretch which was clearly factually incorrect. They were blown out by exactly ONE team.

Quote:and i call what you did to them destroying, like everyone else did who was decent....it was 51 TO 3 at HALFTIME!!!!!!! When they played USF....

So USF was the only decent team they played down the stretch?

Quote:and atleast those teams got to play against cincy's starting qb...
if you want to hype up that win into something it wasnt, go ahead ..but everyone not biased noticed that though talented they were in complete disarray when you played them...their qb wasnt even injured "he chose not to make the trip"

The same QB that started against SDSU started against USF but that doesn't stop you from hyping up that win.

Quote:but for questions
1) you have no legit passing game

We have a decent passing game we just don't need to throw the ball 40 times like you spread teams. We run the ball until you can prove that you can stop us.

Quote:2) your run game is straight forward and has very little to do with trickery (like the triple options)

You clearly didn't watch us play if you believe this. No we aren't an option team but our run game is far from straight forward.

Quote:1 and 2 make me question how sdsu would do versus teams more talented than them, straight up running and winning the line of scrimmage is something you can do versus everyone in the MWC as you out-recruited everyone you played (didnt/dont play boise)

just x and o's wise i truly question how youd do versus better teams
which is evident in your cal ad psu games..your run game as completely shut down in those 2 games

Lack of running didn't cost us those games turnovers did. Those got us behind which forced us away from running the ball. We had 12 turnovers all season. Almost half came in those two games alone.

Quote:3) you lost south alabama

That was a terrible loss there's no denying that. It may have been a blessing in disguise though as that game seems to have been the turning point for Rocky changing his stripes.

1) you clearly didnt read where i wrote , the 3rd td lead was taken away by a phantom call...clearly proving my exact point that you are looking at a stat sheet..and have zero clue how the game went...when you score a td and its taken away by a call it doesnt get put on the stat sheet....Houston was never in real jeopardy and a ref blunder (and an injury) kept the score close and cause a 14pt swing when the game was over...

and you didnt watch a single Cincy game i bet, stop telling people who watched every game how they were...most people in this forum said sdsu wasnt good in the pregame picking but that cincy was collapsing with tubs..no one expected that score but everyone predicted that winner despite thinking sdsu wasn't good...even the ecu game was a major sign of collapse, cincy was easily putting 40 good defenses to start the year and the previous year (and viewed as the by far best offense in the league preseason) but were struggling to put up any points versus a not good ecu...

2) gunner kiel started the usf game, the 5tar qb who was a redshirt junior...hayden moore the freshmen started for sdsu...i hate when people try to call people out on "facts" but are completely wrong...but go ahead
your facts are just not accurate at all..but live in your lies its a free world

3) "Lack of running didn't cost us those games"..3yds a carry (dramatically lower than average) and pumpreys statistical worst two games of the season on a team heavily reliant on the run but whatever floats your boat

4) obviously you arent running the same run play but i watched numerous sdsu games, your offense is built around winning the line of scrimmage, which was my point..its an offense reliant on talent in respect to your competition

5) the turning point was that you started playing your division schedule versus horrible teams

you seem set in your opinion of sdsu ....no need to debate you think beating the MWC west and a collapsing cincy has proven sdsu is legit, thats fine, we all have opinions, next year they will have a chance to prove themselves if they can handle their relatively easy schedule and get the access bowl..IMO sdsu will lose atleast 3 games, even with the easy schedule

I agree with you though sdsu seemed to have a pretty good defense. If anything I think their defense will need to step up again an carry them this year.

Quote:Houston was up 3tds late in the 4th, a phantom offensive PI where neither player even touched took away a TD and gave them great field position to make the game look closer

You need to be more clear if your trying to say the 3rd td was taken away. The way you worded it makes it sound like you thought they were actually up by 3 td's.

^^^^its why these tit for tat back and forth debates are pointless. The ifa woulda coulda shouldas being brought up. "We should have been up by____"
Then the ifa woulda coulda shouldas start becoming fact, "We WERE up by ____"
Cheers!

The reason Moore came on in relief is because USF chased him out of the game. When you're getting pick-sixed at the start of the 2nd quarter to make it 34-0, you better believe your butt us getting benched.
I'm more inclined to believe that game was an outlier. Cincy obviously wasn't as good as Houston but they were good enough to be in it at the end. And say what you like, they went into a pressure bowl against an ECU team trying to get into a bowl game and won.
But Cincy needs to drop Tubby. He wasn't a good coach at Auburn, he wasn't a good coach at Texas tech, and he isn't a good coach now. Cincy will get a better coach than him, they just need to play it smart.

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The top non-P5, IMO, is BYU.

But since BYU doesn't have dibs for G5 NYD Bowl spot, I think these are the contenders this year as of this moment (all listed below are top 7 G5 teams in no particular order other than conference strength which will play into Thee Committee's decision)....

AAC CG: Houston vs Temple or USF
MWC CG: Boise St vs SanDiego St
SBC Champ: Appy St or GA Southern (lower conference but will be a top 7 G5 team)

(04-16-2016 11:06 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  The top non-P5, IMO, is BYU.

But since BYU doesn't have dibs for G5 NYD Bowl spot, I think these are the contenders this year as of this moment (all listed below are top 7 G5 teams in no particular order other than conference strength which will play into Thee Committee's decision)....

AAC CG: Houston vs Temple or USF
MWC CG: Boise St vs SanDiego St
SBC Champ: Appy St or GA Southern (lower conference but will be a top 7 G5 team)

Looking forward to the BullDawgs visiting the Glass Bowl Saturday Sept 17th and the Rockets' game @BYU Friday Sept 30th.

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SBC Champ: Appy St or GA Southern (lower conference but will be a top 7 G5 team)
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Sorry- but NFW either is top 7 G5 team.

SBC Champ: Appy St or GA Southern (lower conference but will be a top 7 G5 team)
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Sorry- but NFW either is top 7 G5 team.
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The sun belt has to make themselves seem relevant some how.