Israel is the good guy. Israel offers many services to the World.

Palestine and their pals are the bad guys.

(04-06-2016 10:55 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:47 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:46 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:20 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 03:26 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  I wonder why Palestinian kids might hate Israel.

are you trying to justify the kid's hate?

Call it what you want. The fact is that when forces are routinely bombing and killing (and many kids have lost family) it isn't surprising, regardless of the justification behind the killing. That's not defending, it's just reality.

then how come Jewish kids arent hating the Palestines?

I'm sure some do. Did you not see where Israelis set up picnics to watch Gaza get bombed in 2014? Sure that trickles down to the kids sometimes.

They're also typically not in fear for their lives nearly as regularly. You and others are basically claiming if you had kids in that situation you'd be able to look at it totally rationally and tell them that the people bombing you are doing it for the right reasons. Get ******* real.

There is not routine bombing and killing. Most of these kids lived in the West Bank. Some of the Jewish kids hated the Palestinians, but they were very few. Mostly they just wanted to separate. It was interesting that there used to be more mixing. Now, due to the intifada, Palestinians and Israelis are more and more separate and lack understanding of the other's lives. Several of the Jewish kids had family killed by terrorists.

(04-06-2016 11:35 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:26 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:17 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:12 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Did you just short out? That's the most worthless talking point you could have possibly spewed.

then why do you think the Jews keep bombing the Palestines? Once you understand that, everything will make sense. Its ok, you are a liberal... common sense is not your forte.

That's not even the discussion we were having. You're one step away from calling me anti-Semitic for daring to question anything Israel does.

Oh, and not everyone that disagrees with you is a liberal. Your ability to have an adult discussion is lacking.

Funny how you would question anything that Israel does but not what the Palestinians do... that should tell me everything that I need to know about you. You just arent grasping the situation.

Sometimes I refuse to have adult conversations with kids, but next time, I'll break it Barney style for you.

LOL. The Palestinian "leadership" is the opposite of what they need and has blood on their hands every time a missle is launched out of Gaza. They know what's coming. That doesn't justify the response but your assumption that I support them or something is whats really childish.

Now I seriously doubt Netanyahu's motivation to change things even if there is extended peace, but hopefully his successor will take some real steps. Two states is the only way. You can't keep Palestinians in their current situation and expect things to just be hunky dory.

And yet the Palestinians have all of Gaza yet they launch missiles into Israel.

If the Palestinians had a Ghandi instead of an Arafat, they would have long ago had their state. And there wouldn't have been so many Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.

(04-06-2016 11:58 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:55 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:47 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:46 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 10:20 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  are you trying to justify the kid's hate?

Call it what you want. The fact is that when forces are routinely bombing and killing (and many kids have lost family) it isn't surprising, regardless of the justification behind the killing. That's not defending, it's just reality.

then how come Jewish kids arent hating the Palestines?

I'm sure some do. Did you not see where Israelis set up picnics to watch Gaza get bombed in 2014? Sure that trickles down to the kids sometimes.

They're also typically not in fear for their lives nearly as regularly. You and others are basically claiming if you had kids in that situation you'd be able to look at it totally rationally and tell them that the people bombing you are doing it for the right reasons. Get ******* real.

There is not routine bombing and killing. Most of these kids lived in the West Bank. Some of the Jewish kids hated the Palestinians, but they were very few. Mostly they just wanted to separate. It was interesting that there used to be more mixing. Now, due to the intifada, Palestinians and Israelis are more and more separate and lack understanding of the other's lives. Several of the Jewish kids had family killed by terrorists.

The West Bank may be better off than Gaza but is not exactly well treated either. And its not as if you can separate the two when talking about killings of families.

I agree with the rest of this. Certainly the Palestinian side is far from innocent in this whole thing.

(04-06-2016 12:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:35 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:26 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:17 AM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  then why do you think the Jews keep bombing the Palestines? Once you understand that, everything will make sense. Its ok, you are a liberal... common sense is not your forte.

That's not even the discussion we were having. You're one step away from calling me anti-Semitic for daring to question anything Israel does.

Oh, and not everyone that disagrees with you is a liberal. Your ability to have an adult discussion is lacking.

Funny how you would question anything that Israel does but not what the Palestinians do... that should tell me everything that I need to know about you. You just arent grasping the situation.

Sometimes I refuse to have adult conversations with kids, but next time, I'll break it Barney style for you.

LOL. The Palestinian "leadership" is the opposite of what they need and has blood on their hands every time a missle is launched out of Gaza. They know what's coming. That doesn't justify the response but your assumption that I support them or something is whats really childish.

Now I seriously doubt Netanyahu's motivation to change things even if there is extended peace, but hopefully his successor will take some real steps. Two states is the only way. You can't keep Palestinians in their current situation and expect things to just be hunky dory.

And yet the Palestinians have all of Gaza yet they launch missiles into Israel.

"All of Gaza"? I agree again that the missile launching is stupid, ineffective and counterproductive but saying that because they have "all of" the overcrowded war zone of Gaza isn't saying much of anything.

(04-06-2016 11:57 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Israel is the good guy. Israel offers many services to the World.

Palestine and their pals are the bad guys.

This is, well, a very Disney-like understanding of the world.

One of the root problems with this conflict is each side will charge that the other "started it," or that "we were here first," and they'll each go back decades, centuries - nay, millennia - to try to prove their case.

It's really beyond repair. You may get some years of relative quietness here and there, but it goes too deep.

(04-06-2016 01:53 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  One of the root problems with this conflict is each side will charge that the other "started it," or that "we were here first," and they'll each go back decades, centuries - nay, millennia - to try to prove their case.

It's really beyond repair. You may get some years of relative quietness here and there, but it goes too deep.

Probably true. I think a two state solution is the best way to keep things at least at an uncomfortable peace most of the time. In the end thats for the parties involved to figure out, not America, but I wouldn't mind seeing our involvement continue in a diplomatic capacity (read: stop funding both sides).

Maybe Israel should build a wall and get Palestine to pay for it

(04-06-2016 03:09 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Maybe Israel should build a wall and get Palestine to pay for it

Then they can make Palestine "great again".

(04-06-2016 02:49 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 01:53 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  One of the root problems with this conflict is each side will charge that the other "started it," or that "we were here first," and they'll each go back decades, centuries - nay, millennia - to try to prove their case.

It's really beyond repair. You may get some years of relative quietness here and there, but it goes too deep.

Probably true. I think a two state solution is the best way to keep things at least at an uncomfortable peace most of the time. In the end thats for the parties involved to figure out, not America, but I wouldn't mind seeing our involvement continue in a diplomatic capacity (read: stop funding both sides).

There is no chance at even uncomfortable peace when one side's entire mission statement is the death of the other. The Palestinians are just continuing the work of their allies from the 30's & 40's the Nazis. Going back to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and his alliance with Hitler and continuing through the training of PLO leaders like Yassir Arafat by escaped Nazi's in Egypt in the 50's and 60's it's just the latest evolution of the Final Solution.

(04-06-2016 12:06 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:57 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Israel is the good guy. Israel offers many services to the World.

Palestine and their pals are the bad guys.

This is, well, a very Disney-like understanding of the world.

I am in the Disney College Program.

Seriously, Palestine has nothing to offer (except violence) unlike Israel.

(04-06-2016 06:49 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 12:06 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:57 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Israel is the good guy. Israel offers many services to the World.

Palestine and their pals are the bad guys.

This is, well, a very Disney-like understanding of the world.

I am in the Disney College Program.

Seriously, Palestine has nothing to offer (except violence) unlike Israel.

Staying at Vista Lay Apartments?

(04-06-2016 06:50 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 06:49 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 12:06 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:57 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Israel is the good guy. Israel offers many services to the World.

Palestine and their pals are the bad guys.

This is, well, a very Disney-like understanding of the world.

I am in the Disney College Program.

Seriously, Palestine has nothing to offer (except violence) unlike Israel.

Staying at Vista Lay Apartments?

Nope.

Chatham Square.

I wished for Vista Way because Chick-fil-a is right next to it.

The Israelis want a state.
The Palestinians want to kill Jews.

There is no moral equivalency.

(04-06-2016 03:09 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Maybe Israel should build a wall and get Palestine to pay for it

They have built a wall and had Palestinians build it.

(04-06-2016 10:20 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 03:26 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 12:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  One of our kids had a reading exercise last year with short writings from Israeli and Palestinian children. The Palestinian children were almost all filled with hatred and wanted to kill all the Israelis. They have taught hate. It was also obvious how difficult the terrorists and the Israeli response makes life for the average Palestinian.

I wonder why Palestinian kids might hate Israel.

are you trying to justify the kid's hate?

Well, he is the resident Muslim expert due to his girlfriend being a Muslim.