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(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

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(04-05-2016 12:05 PM)Smith Wrote:  Why are you throwing the players under the bus?

I'm not at all - I'm throwing the coach who cannot develop players under the bus.

With a REAL coach, Shaq Goodwin would walk into the alley and take out everyone on Nova's team with the exception of maybe Ochefu.

Instead, he'd be hard pressed to win a tickle fight with Calkins.

All because the head coach is horrible.

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(04-05-2016 12:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:05 PM)Smith Wrote:  Why are you throwing the players under the bus?

You always wait for the exact moment doe

And completely spinning the main point, which is toughness, which is about coaching.

I remember another poster that always spun the main point as well...
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I thought this was a Lady Tigers thread.
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RE: Small ball
(04-05-2016 12:55 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:05 PM)Smith Wrote:  Why are you throwing the players under the bus?

You always wait for the exact moment doe

And completely spinning the main point, which is toughness, which is about coaching.

I remember another poster that always spun the main point as well...

probably just a coincidence - that poster was banned
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(04-05-2016 12:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:45 PM)Pastnerized Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 11:04 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:58 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:27 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  I guess you could call it small ball simply because it's not the prototypical C and PF dynamic.

Having said that the players surrounding Ochefu are big.

Maybe not tall as you would like, but big.

Heck, Jenkins is a 6-6, 240 brickhouse.

Hart is 6-6, Bridges is a 6-7 guard - even the 'smallest' players are all 6-3 - Arcidiacono, Booth, Brunson.

By the stringent definition of small ball, the 2008 team was small ball - Dorsey was a 6-7 center and Dozier a 6-9 forward who could play the perimeter.

So Nova's 4 man wasn't a 6-4 170 lb guy who couldn't dribble or shoot ?

If Kris Jenkins walked into an alley to fight Josh Pastner, Nick Marshall and Shaq Goodwin, only Jenkins is walking out.

That's where you're wrong.
But sounds good. I suppose.

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Being discussed.
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RE: Small ball
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.
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(04-05-2016 02:11 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:55 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:05 PM)Smith Wrote:  Why are you throwing the players under the bus?

You always wait for the exact moment doe

And completely spinning the main point, which is toughness, which is about coaching.

I remember another poster that always spun the main point as well...

probably just a coincidence - that poster was banned

Trying to decide which is worse - a person who may or may not have been a poster, or people trying to "out" them.
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(04-05-2016 02:39 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:11 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:55 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:05 PM)Smith Wrote:  Why are you throwing the players under the bus?

You always wait for the exact moment doe

And completely spinning the main point, which is toughness, which is about coaching.

I remember another poster that always spun the main point as well...

probably just a coincidence - that poster was banned

Trying to decide which is worse - a person who may or may not have been a poster, or people trying to "out" them.

I'd say the worst would be even if it's a different poster, that they have the same posting style/philosophy, which given that they were always wrong yet indignant, is a bad look.
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(04-05-2016 02:41 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:39 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:11 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:55 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  You always wait for the exact moment doe

And completely spinning the main point, which is toughness, which is about coaching.

I remember another poster that always spun the main point as well...

probably just a coincidence - that poster was banned

Trying to decide which is worse - a person who may or may not have been a poster, or people trying to "out" them.

I'd say the worst would be even if it's a different poster, that they have the same posting style/philosophy, which given that they were always wrong yet indignant, is a bad look.

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We play small brain ball.
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we recruited josh hart btw
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RE: Small ball
(04-05-2016 02:21 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.

Thanks for Brunson. Forgot about him.
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RE: Small ball
(04-05-2016 02:21 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.

having a system and recruiting players for it is nonsense. The key is to recruit good players and roll the ball out. Maybe occasionally run "good stuff."
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Still trying to figure out what the heck this article has to do with us. A team with a 6' 11" center with post moves surrounded by a bunch of shooters and coached by a two-time COY. NTR
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(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

The thread should have been closed after this post...
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(04-05-2016 04:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Still trying to figure out what the heck this article has to do with us. A team with a 6' 11" center with post moves surrounded by a bunch of shooters and coached by a two-time COY. NTR

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(04-05-2016 04:24 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:21 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.

having a system and recruiting players for it is nonsense. The key is to recruit good players and roll the ball out. Maybe occasionally run "good stuff."

Don't underestimate the importance of the "law of averages" as well. 03-lmfao
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(04-05-2016 04:57 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 04:24 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:21 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 10:10 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  A lot of stuff works with the right coaching

Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.

having a system and recruiting players for it is nonsense. The key is to recruit good players and roll the ball out. Maybe occasionally run "good stuff."

Don't underestimate the importance of the "law of averages" as well. 03-lmfao

Jay Wright probably doesn't even tell his players they've gotta make shots. What a doofus!
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(04-05-2016 05:08 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 04:57 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 04:24 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 02:21 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(04-05-2016 12:36 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  Villanova won despite not having a projected 1st round NBA or a McDonald's All-American.

I was thinking about this, too, so I looked it up. Brunson was a McD's AA last year, but the rest of their guys are mainly 4* recruits. Contrast that with the fact that UNC's entire roster is pretty much McD's AA's. Just goes to show you what a good coach can do with the right players to fit his system.

having a system and recruiting players for it is nonsense. The key is to recruit good players and roll the ball out. Maybe occasionally run "good stuff."

Don't underestimate the importance of the "law of averages" as well. 03-lmfao

Jay Wright probably doesn't even tell his players they've gotta make shots. What a doofus!

Obviously not a hall of famer!
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