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(04-03-2016 03:54 PM)Ranger Wrote:  We really should go to the pen. 106 pitches, plus two on and no out. Is Otto the only reliever Graham trusts?

Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.
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Interesting move to bring in Amador.. Plan must be to go all-staff on Tuesday.. Either that or start Solecitto, Kravetz, Jefferies, or Parthasarathy (don't think he's ready yet).
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Good series win and dominant pitching. Could use a big win against A&M on Tuesday.
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Amador gets the side out in the bottom of the 9th and Rice wins the game and the series!
Go Owls! Beat the Aggies...
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Amador strands a leadoff single in B9. Rice lead 6-2, going into "Top 10" according to the MTSU gametracker. Now FINAL.

Nice series win, Owls!!
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Great job of putting Friday night behind them and winning the series. Go Owls!
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Aggies are down 10-7 in T9, but have 2 on with 2 outs. Come Aggies tie it up and keep playing.

Banks Ks and the Ags lose their 3rd straight to Florida. The Aggies starters pitched 6.3 innings in the 3 games. Their bullpen was used extensively this weekend.
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(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Interesting move to bring in Amador.. Plan must be to go all-staff on Tuesday.. Either that or start Solecitto, Kravetz, Jefferies, or Parthasarathy (don't think he's ready yet).

No way Partha is back. Trust me you will not see Partha until next year.
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Way to go big Owls!
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(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 03:54 PM)Ranger Wrote:  We really should go to the pen. 106 pitches, plus two on and no out. Is Otto the only reliever Graham trusts?

Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.
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(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 03:54 PM)Ranger Wrote:  We really should go to the pen. 106 pitches, plus two on and no out. Is Otto the only reliever Graham trusts?

Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.
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Nice bounce-back series win. We'll need to go Johnny staff on Tuesday, but so will A&M. They went through a ton of pitchers at Florida and will come to Reckling with about 1/5 of the confidence they would have had a week ago.
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(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 03:54 PM)Ranger Wrote:  We really should go to the pen. 106 pitches, plus two on and no out. Is Otto the only reliever Graham trusts?

Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.



I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

At this point you are not going to change Graham. What do they say about teaching an old dog.......
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(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 03:54 PM)Ranger Wrote:  We really should go to the pen. 106 pitches, plus two on and no out. Is Otto the only reliever Graham trusts?

Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

I'd love Rice to 'develop' a bullpen (in game situations), but I just don't see the opportunities you must be seeing.

If we scored early and often, then yes you can have practically anyone out there for an inning or two. I haven't seen too many of those this season. Until then the pitchers not being used in game situations will need to hone their craft in practice. (I assume Rice has a pitching coach.)

Rice is sitting third in conference behind FAU and Southern Miss and last I looked was projected as a third seed. So I can't think of too many future games we can earmark as preseason or developmental.
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(04-03-2016 05:47 PM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

I'd love Rice to 'develop' a bullpen (in game situations), but I just don't see the opportunities you must be seeing.

If we scored early and often, then yes you can have practically anyone out there for an inning or two. I haven't seen too many of those this season. Until then the pitchers not being used in game situations will need to hone their craft in practice. (I assume Rice has a pitching coach.)

Rice is sitting third in conference behind FAU and Southern Miss and last I looked was projected as a third seed. So I can't think of too many future games we can earmark as preseason or developmental.

In fairness to Rice, we have played the #1 OOC schedule and after starting 6-7, are 11-3. We also have not played USM or FAU, so I think it's a bit early to start worrying about our position in the conference.

Regarding the pitching situation, we definitely need to develop a few more arms. Otto, Myers, and Amador seem to be a solid if not exceptional three behind the weekend trio. We need Solecitto, Kravetz, and the other freshman to really step up. Also noticed that Orweiler hasn't pitched in a couple weeks. He could be another option.

I don't think Parthasarathy's injury is TJS, as we would have heard by now. Walt seems to know what it is, but won't tell anyone. In an unexpected move Howlmaha, the anti-Walt, decided not to tell us either!
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(04-03-2016 05:47 PM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:18 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  Answer is yes. No different than other years which is why we implode in regionals. You then put people in that haven't pitched in weeks.

To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

I'd love Rice to 'develop' a bullpen (in game situations), but I just don't see the opportunities you must be seeing.

If we scored early and often, then yes you can have practically anyone out there for an inning or two. I haven't seen too many of those this season. Until then the pitchers not being used in game situations will need to hone their craft in practice. (I assume Rice has a pitching coach.)

Rice is sitting third in conference behind FAU and Southern Miss and last I looked was projected as a third seed. So I can't think of too many future games we can earmark as preseason or developmental.

You are right. Can't trust anyone with a 5 run lead so throw out Tuesday's starter. 01-lauramac201-lauramac201-lauramac2
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(04-03-2016 05:59 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 05:47 PM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

I'd love Rice to 'develop' a bullpen (in game situations), but I just don't see the opportunities you must be seeing.

If we scored early and often, then yes you can have practically anyone out there for an inning or two. I haven't seen too many of those this season. Until then the pitchers not being used in game situations will need to hone their craft in practice. (I assume Rice has a pitching coach.)

Rice is sitting third in conference behind FAU and Southern Miss and last I looked was projected as a third seed. So I can't think of too many future games we can earmark as preseason or developmental.

In fairness to Rice, we have played the #1 OOC schedule and after starting 6-7, are 11-3. We also have not played USM or FAU, so I think it's a bit early to start worrying about our position in the conference.

Regarding the pitching situation, we definitely need to develop a few more arms. Otto, Myers, and Amador seem to be a solid if not exceptional three behind the weekend trio. We need Solecitto, Kravetz, and the other freshman to really step up. Also noticed that Orweiler hasn't pitched in a couple weeks. He could be another option.

I don't think Parthasarathy's injury is TJS, as we would have heard by now. Walt seems to know what it is, but won't tell anyone. In an unexpected move Howlmaha, the anti-Walt, decided not to tell us either!

Walt claims he knows but also says he hasn't spoken with Graham in months. 03-banghead03-banghead I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.
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(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.
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Really nice bounce back series victory-- 5 consecutive now, following Minute Maid, after Friday's heartbreaking loss. Offense was pretty feable this weekend against what had been sub-par pitching, but we had dominant pitching throughout, with arguably the most dominant performance being in our lone loss. Once again, Ricky got stronger and stronger as the game progressed. And our defense has gone from being a major vulnerability all of last year through the first two weeks of the season to now being a team strength.

Game Ball #1: Ricky Salinas (W, 4-1, 7.1 IP, 6 hits, 2 runs, 3 BBs, 8 Ks)-- we desperately needed him to give us 7 strong innings (given our bullpen situation) and he did just that...and then some. What poise getting out of that bases loaded, no outs (and one run already in situation) without surrendering another run. As was the case all weekend, half of MTSU's hits never made it to the infield dirt. (I've never seen more choppers off the dirt in front of the plate in my life!) Great effort.

Game Ball #2: The duo of Andrew Dunlap (1-3, RBI) and Hunter Kopycinski (1-3, BB, run, 2 RBIs) who, with two outs and batting back-to-back in the decisive 6th inning, each fell behind 0-2 in the count, each then fouled off 3 - 4 pitches, and each battled back to hit a clutch, line drive RBI single (2 RBIs in Hunter's case), which together gave us the cushion we needed to close this one out.

Game Ball #3: I could have given this one to Willy Amador (1.2 IP, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 BBs, 0 Ks) who got us out of MTSU's last serious threat of the game in the bottom of the 8th inning, but I'm giving it to Dane Myers (1-2, sac fly, HBP, RBI) for both his offense and, especially for his gold glove-worthy defense all weekend long (despite playing with a still back most of yesterday's game and all of today's).

For those listening or watching on video feed, did JP mention why Warren suddenly was taken out of the game heading into the bottom of the 2 inning? Since he didn't bat that inning, those of us at the game was assuming he was just under the weather and took himself out. I certainly hope that's all it was.

Pitching and defense win ball games, but our offense needs to do a lot better than it did this weekend. Sure, we had tough luck on some of our hardest hit balls, but we managed only 11 hits over 3 games against a pitching staff with an ERA in the mid-4.00's and high BAA. Most of our runs yesterday and today were gifted via a combination of walks, HBPs, errors and wild pitches. And our baserunning and bunting is still an embarrassment for any program, let alone one of our pedigree. We were picked off (not caught stealing, but picked off 1B) 3 times this series (though one time yesterday we made it to 2B thanks to an error on throw). I think we've been picked off 7 - 8 times already this year, which is indefensible.

Looks like we'll be going with "all staff" on Tuesday vs. the Aggies, with Willy starting, but likely be limitted to 3 - 4 innings or 60 pitches, whichever comes first...followed by Esquivel, Kravetz, Jefferies and Otto should be good for 2 innings if we are tied or have a lead late. BTW, Solecitto, Esquivel and Orewiler were all warming up in the pen during that nailbiting 6th inning for MTSU.

It's not going to be easy, but let's end the Aggies 3+ year, 25-game midweek win streak. Go Owls!
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(04-03-2016 07:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  It's not going to be easy, but let end the Aggies 3+ year, 25-game midweek win streak. Go Owls!

Would Rice send a scout to Gainesville to take notes on the Aggies in the A&M-Florida series? Or would they just watch it on TV ... Friday's was on the SEC Network+ and Saturday & Sunday's games were on ESPNU?
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