(04-03-2016 07:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  For those listening or watching on video feed, did JP mention why Warren suddenly was taken out of the game heading into the bottom of the 2 inning? Since he didn't bat that inning, those of us at the game was assuming he was just under the weather and took himself out. I certainly hope that's all it was.

I didn't hear anything...

(04-03-2016 07:33 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 07:06 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  It's not going to be easy, but let end the Aggies 3+ year, 25-game midweek win streak. Go Owls!

Would Rice send a scout to Gainesville to take notes on the Aggies in the A&M-Florida series? Or would they just watch it on TV ... Friday's was on the SEC Network+ and Saturday & Sunday's games were on ESPNU?

??? We don't have the personnel or budget to scout opposing teams in person. I assume we get some film or video feeds.

(04-03-2016 06:52 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.

First of all any arm injury is serious. A player's health must be first and foremost. Considering how many weeks are left in the season, his age and the fact he isn't even throwing yet would you take chances with an elbow injury that could heal or risk hurting it further?

(04-03-2016 06:00 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  You are right. Can't trust anyone with a 5 run lead so throw out Tuesday's starter.

You're operating under the obviously false impression that this was Tuesday's starter... or even of so, they Graham intended on him going more than a few innings on Tuesday. ONE way to develop arms is to pitch three of them in a game where it doesn't really matter that much if we win or lose... (of course winning is better than losing, but they are #1, so we 'rise' just by playing them, and don't 'rise' meaningfully more by winning... whether it is a 1-0 pitchers duel or a 16-2 shellacking.)

While the odds of losing when you're up 5-1 are not high, they also aren't zero... and the damage that would have been done by losing today is far greater than the 'upside' in winning on Tuesday.

You're thinking like a 'fan', who wants to beat #1... and not like a coach trying to get the 'best' position he can in a regional... which likely STARTS by winning the conference.... and NOT by losing a weekend conference series but beating #1 in a single, mid-week game.

(04-03-2016 07:43 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:52 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.

First of all any arm injury is serious. A player's health must be first and foremost. Considering how many weeks are left in the season, his age and the fact he isn't even throwing yet would you take chances with an elbow injury that could heal or risk hurting it further?

You listen to the doctors. Period.

(04-03-2016 07:47 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:00 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  You are right. Can't trust anyone with a 5 run lead so throw out Tuesday's starter.

You're operating under the obviously false impression that this was Tuesday's starter... or even of so, they Graham intended on him going more than a few innings on Tuesday. ONE way to develop arms is to pitch three of them in a game where it doesn't really matter that much if we win or lose... (of course winning is better than losing, but they are #1, so we 'rise' just by playing them, and don't 'rise' meaningfully more by winning... whether it is a 1-0 pitchers duel or a 16-2 shellacking.)

While the odds of losing when you're up 5-1 are not high, they also aren't zero... and the damage that would have been done by losing today is far greater than the 'upside' in winning on Tuesday.

You're thinking like a 'fan', who wants to beat #1... and not like a coach trying to get the 'best' position he can in a regional... which likely STARTS by winning the conference.... and NOT by losing a weekend conference series but beating #1 in a single, mid-week game.

Spot on, Bones, and the score was 6-2, with two guys on base and only one out in the 8th inning, when Willy came in. We could ill-afford to lose this one, and as several of us pointed out in a thread a couple days ago, winning the weekends and conference games are far more important than mid-week games; even against Top 25 opponents. Series W - L record is one of the criteria the Selection Committee takes into account. We're now 5-1 in weekend series on the year, with one of those teams ranked in the Top 20, and another two in the Top 60. Willy threw less than 20 pitches today, so there's no reason he won't be able to start and throw another 50 - 60 pitches on Tuesday. Otto should be able to give us a couple innings on Tuesday. Hopefully, Myers' back will be feeling better and he'll be able to give us an inning or two on Tuesday. Sure, the Aggies could give each of their weekend starters a 2 - 3 innings each, given none of they made it out of the 3rd inning this weekend, but they do play a solid Geogia club next weekend.

(04-03-2016 07:43 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:52 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.

First of all any arm injury is serious. A player's health must be first and foremost. Considering how many weeks are left in the season, his age and the fact he isn't even throwing yet would you take chances with an elbow injury that could heal or risk hurting it further?

Were you speculating as a fan when you said he's be out all year or claiming insider info?

(04-03-2016 05:59 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 05:47 PM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:20 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  To be fair, our inability to score runs and our sloppy defense have also caused "implosions" in the postseason. Not all on the bullpen.

I am not saying it is on the bullpen quite the opposite. I am saying it is on the management of the bullpens in past years. Other teams develop staffs. We ride 5 guys during the season. You can't put people on ice and then 4 weeks later expect them to be sharp.

I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

I'd love Rice to 'develop' a bullpen (in game situations), but I just don't see the opportunities you must be seeing.

If we scored early and often, then yes you can have practically anyone out there for an inning or two. I haven't seen too many of those this season. Until then the pitchers not being used in game situations will need to hone their craft in practice. (I assume Rice has a pitching coach.)

Rice is sitting third in conference behind FAU and Southern Miss and last I looked was projected as a third seed. So I can't think of too many future games we can earmark as preseason or developmental.

In fairness to Rice, we have played the #1 OOC schedule and after starting 6-7, are 11-3. We also have not played USM or FAU, so I think it's a bit early to start worrying about our position in the conference.

Regarding the pitching situation, we definitely need to develop a few more arms. Otto, Myers, and Amador seem to be a solid if not exceptional three behind the weekend trio. We need Solecitto, Kravetz, and the other freshman to really step up. Also noticed that Orweiler hasn't pitched in a couple weeks. He could be another option.

I don't think Parthasarathy's injury is TJS, as we would have heard by now. Walt seems to know what it is, but won't tell anyone. In an unexpected move Howlmaha, the anti-Walt, decided not to tell us either!

Correct, and FAU has so far played to a Strength of Schedule ranking of #195 (vs. #6 ranking for Rice). Again, aside from beating Mississippi State twice at home opening weekend, who exactly have FAU played?

13 early OOC home games against weak Northern teams (with minimal practice time)...
South Dakota State x 2
Long Island x 3
Georgetown x 3
Saint Josephs x 2
Rutgers x 3

@ Middle Tennessee (like us, took 2 of 3)
UAB x 3 (sweep)
@ ODU (Like us, they swept)

Lost @ Florida

In other words, they're largely untested, despite their lofty 21 - 4 record. And they're going to keep cruising the next two weeks as they've got lowly Charlotte, Marshall and Florida Gulf Coast x 2. If we sweep UAB next weekend, we have effectively held serve with them in the conference race.

(04-03-2016 10:01 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 07:43 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:52 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.

First of all any arm injury is serious. A player's health must be first and foremost. Considering how many weeks are left in the season, his age and the fact he isn't even throwing yet would you take chances with an elbow injury that could heal or risk hurting it further?

Were you speculating as a fan when you said he's be out all year or claiming insider info?

Marvin Gaye

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

(04-04-2016 08:37 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

Bunting wasn't specifically called out.

(04-04-2016 08:37 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

As he was pointing out that you can't pin our eliminations entirely on the bullpen, this seems a completely reasonable comment, not requiring your snark.

(04-04-2016 10:07 AM)JOwl Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:37 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

As he was pointing out that you can't pin our eliminations entirely on the bullpen, this seems a completely reasonable comment, not requiring your snark.

Snark is never required. It simply comes as a bonus.

Just as no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

(04-04-2016 10:25 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 10:07 AM)JOwl Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:37 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

As he was pointing out that you can't pin our eliminations entirely on the bullpen, this seems a completely reasonable comment, not requiring your snark.

Snark is never required. It simply comes as a bonus.

Just as no one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

A lot has to do with mismanagement of the bullpen not the bullpen itself.

(04-04-2016 08:49 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:37 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:40 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I agree with you. Should've used the word "pitching" instead of bullpen. Just saying our suspect defense and lack of offense have also factored into our postseason letdowns.

So, you're saying that pitching, offense, and defense were to blame for not winning the national championship in said years. Are you sure you didn't leave out any other factors?

Bunting wasn't specifically called out.

Uni's?

(04-03-2016 11:57 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:01 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 07:43 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:52 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:03 PM)Howlomaha Wrote:  I am not going to discuss a player's injury. That is for the player, coach or training staff to disclose.

But that's what you did. You could have let the Partha comment go without a response. Because you insinuate you have inside information, you give the impression you have same on this injury and that it's season-ending serious.

First of all any arm injury is serious. A player's health must be first and foremost. Considering how many weeks are left in the season, his age and the fact he isn't even throwing yet would you take chances with an elbow injury that could heal or risk hurting it further?

Were you speculating as a fan when you said he's be out all year or claiming insider info?

Marvin Gaye

So your source is a bunch of raisins?