(04-03-2016 08:15 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We gotta play the toughest ooc.schedule possible

Nah.

Building a pretty unattractive out of conference schedule. Even if we win them all, we lose reputation on the national scale. It will hurt our chances to be considered for a BCS bowl.

It is a good thing to have 7 home games.

(04-02-2016 09:55 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 09:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  We have 3 OOC home games in both 2016 and 2017.

We play UCLA at home in 2017.

We have home and home series with three different SEC schools.

I got no problem without our future OOC schedules.

I totally agree - surprised at some of the complaining on Twitter and on here. You try to get 7 home games with your OOC games being 2 wins, 1 50/50 type game and 1 stretch (i.e., UCLA, SEC).

Who are the 50/50 games? I don't see them on the 2017 or 2018 schedule. A 50/50 game would be a lower level BCS team, or someone fighting for a BCS birth from out of the power 5.

(04-02-2016 10:27 PM)ddramone Wrote:  ........let's be honest, ASU fans are A MILLION times better than Ole Myth fans.

My impression of ASU fans is that for the most part, they are nice friendly people. I admit that I have always wondered about their meek acceptance of the way they are shyt upon by the University of Arkansas.

(04-03-2016 09:08 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  Building a pretty unattractive out of conference schedule. Even if we win them all, we lose reputation on the national scale. It will hurt our chances to be considered for a BCS bowl.

It is a good thing to have 7 home games.

UH was able to get to a P5 Bowl Game last year with 7 home games that helped them win all their home games...and all but one all season long (13-1):

Div I-AA TENNESSEE TECH
TEXAS STATE
VANDERBILT (4-8 record)
@ Louisville (7-5 regular season record)

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

^ yet you don't mention how we have Mississippi and Kansas scheduled for this season...Memphis plays P5s

(04-02-2016 10:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Gotta look at the whole picture. We're mixing in H/H with P5's, with H/H with G5's in strategic areas, with an annual buy for a low G5/D2. Going for 7 home games a year, recruiting/marketing areas, decent SOS, no more than 1 buy game per year.

It's a solid strategy.

That was a big one. These are not mid's in central Illinois or Iowa. These are mid's that are a tank of gas away from campus.

I think it is a little light, but the potential to be undefeated going into conference play will give more momentum.
And the fact that most of these games are light travel for those in Memphis, also is a plus for attendance.
And we know B12 looks at attendance #'s too, even if they are creampuff teams.

(04-03-2016 10:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

^ yet you don't mention how we have Mississippi and Kansas scheduled for this season...Memphis plays P5s

Kansas is P5 in football?

Same program that has won only 3 conf games in 6 1/2 seasons?

Many AAC teams play at least 1 good P5 program (Ole Miss obviously qualifies), but most Sunbelt programs are generally better than Kansas on a yearly basis.

(04-03-2016 11:21 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

^ yet you don't mention how we have Mississippi and Kansas scheduled for this season...Memphis plays P5s

Kansas is P5 in football?

Same program that has won only 3 conf games in 6 1/2 seasons?

Many AAC teams play at least 1 good P5 program (Ole Miss obviously qualifies), but most Sunbelt programs are generally better than Kansas on a yearly basis.

What?!?
Still considered a P5 nationally and actually was in a BCS bowl in 2008 where they actually won. They have been on the downturn recently but saying most Sunbelt programs are better is just dumb man.

(04-03-2016 10:19 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 09:08 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  Building a pretty unattractive out of conference schedule. Even if we win them all, we lose reputation on the national scale. It will hurt our chances to be considered for a BCS bowl.

It is a good thing to have 7 home games.

UH was able to get to a P5 Bowl Game last year with 7 home games that helped them win all their home games...and all but one all season long (13-1):

Div I-AA TENNESSEE TECH
TEXAS STATE
VANDERBILT (4-8 record)
@ Louisville (7-5 regular season record)

Correct. However this ooc is better than our 2017 and 2018. Vanderbilt would be our 50/50 game. They have 2 cupcakes. We have 3. Big difference.

(04-02-2016 11:21 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:27 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Gotta look at the whole picture. We're mixing in H/H with P5's, with H/H with G5's in strategic areas, with an annual buy for a low G5/D2. Going for 7 home games a year, recruiting/marketing areas, decent SOS, no more than 1 buy game per year.

It's a solid strategy.

Exactly

Unless we lose like B10 Schools did last year.

You lose, you lose. Doesn't negate the strategy.

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

Dude, last year Memphis had the #53 SOS while UCF had the #103. Year before that, Memphis was #63 and UCF was #72. Nice try to revise things though.

(04-03-2016 08:15 AM)memphisike Wrote:  We gotta play the toughest ooc.schedule possible

Not true. Play a good mix. Set up for success, and win the conference. Keep building.

OOC schecules

Ok, considering the formula: 2Wins, 1 50/50 and 1 stretch:

2016

SE Missouri State
Kansas
Bowling Green
at Ole Miss

Very good schedule, 7 home games; 2 wins Missouri State & Kansas; 1 50/50 Bowling Green; 1 stretch Ole Miss

2017

ULM
UCLA
Southern Illinois
at Georgia State

Not looking good. 7 home games (good). 3 cupcakes and 1 stretch. Needed a 50/50.

2018

Georgia State
South Alabama
at Missouri

Possible. Needs a 50/50 game and not a div 1-AA. If they go with a Div 1-AA we are in bad shape for national consideration.

2019

Ole Miss
at South Alabama
at ULM

Not looking good. Only 6 possible home games. Need a 50/50 game and need it desperately to be a home game.
2020

Arkansas State
UTSA

Need a 50/50 game and a stretch game. Arkansas State should not be considered a 50/50 game or we are screwed.

(04-03-2016 09:08 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  Building a pretty unattractive out of conference schedule. Even if we win them all, we lose reputation on the national scale. It will hurt our chances to be considered for a BCS bowl.

It is a good thing to have 7 home games.

Not ready to challenge for BCS bowls based upon beating a top 10 OOC SOS. We are setting up to win the AAC and be the highest rated G5. You can do that without playing 3 out of 4 OOC games against P5 on the road.

(04-03-2016 11:21 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

^ yet you don't mention how we have Mississippi and Kansas scheduled for this season...Memphis plays P5s

Kansas is P5 in football?

Same program that has won only 3 conf games in 6 1/2 seasons?

Many AAC teams play at least 1 good P5 program (Ole Miss obviously qualifies), but most Sunbelt programs are generally better than Kansas on a yearly basis.

I think you're confused about what 'P5' means...yes, Kansas is in the Big XII

(04-03-2016 11:21 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 03:35 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Saw this on Twitter: Tell me it ain't true!

ULM, ASU, GSU, USA, all home and home. W.T.F?

Most (ok, virtually all) first time head coaches want wins...vs ANYONE...as generally thats how they end up getting better jobs and more $$$.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Fuente and now Norvell wants an easier/friendlier non-conf schedule...as if you can go 3-1 or 4-0 every year in conf play...you are basically guaranteed to play in a bowl game.

Somewhat similar to UCF Coach Frost...as he sees other AAC teams load up with 7 home games per year, something he wants UCF to do but meanwhile, UCF has some upcoming years with 3 P5 non-conf games, like next season:
@ Texas
GEORGIA TECH
@ Maryland

Frost wouldn't have done a non-conf schedule like that.

While in 2017 & 2018, Memphis is playing just 1 P5 program:

2017:
LOUISIANA-MONROE
UCLA
Div I-AA SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
at Georgia State


2018:
Div I-AA HOME OPENER
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
@ Mizzou

NOTE: 2016, HALF of the AAC (Cinci, UCONN, USF, Temple, Memphis, Houston) will have 7 home games this season (UH playing 7th game in Houston 6 miles from campus vs Oklahoma in the NFL Stadium).

^ yet you don't mention how we have Mississippi and Kansas scheduled for this season...Memphis plays P5s

Kansas is P5 in football?

Same program that has won only 3 conf games in 6 1/2 seasons?

Many AAC teams play at least 1 good P5 program (Ole Miss obviously qualifies), but most Sunbelt programs are generally better than Kansas on a yearly basis.

Says the guy touting Ga Tech and Maryland on UCF's schedule. Good grief.

(04-03-2016 01:35 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  OOC schecules

Ok, considering the formula: 2Wins, 1 50/50 and 1 stretch:

2016

SE Missouri State
Kansas
Bowling Green
at Ole Miss

Very good schedule, 7 home games; 2 wins Missouri State & Kansas; 1 50/50 Bowling Green; 1 stretch Ole Miss

2017

ULM
UCLA
Southern Illinois
at Georgia State

Not looking good. 7 home games (good). 3 cupcakes and 1 stretch. Needed a 50/50.

2018

Georgia State
South Alabama
at Missouri

Possible. Needs a 50/50 game and not a div 1-AA. If they go with a Div 1-AA we are in bad shape for national consideration.

2019

Ole Miss
at South Alabama
at ULM

Not looking good. Only 6 possible home games. Need a 50/50 game and need it desperately to be a home game.
2020

Arkansas State
UTSA

Need a 50/50 game and a stretch game. Arkansas State should not be considered a 50/50 game or we are screwed.

New to Tigers football, I'm guessing. You seem to base everything on "national consideration". We're building a program. We are looking for wins, challenging for AAC championships, big attendance years. We are not building a schedule to contend for a NC as the top priority. Win the games decisively, win the conference - you can still get in as the G5 rep.

Plus, it's sort of silly to go more than 2 years out in looking at the OOC. Not full yet and things change.

(04-03-2016 01:14 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 10:19 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 09:08 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  Building a pretty unattractive out of conference schedule. Even if we win them all, we lose reputation on the national scale. It will hurt our chances to be considered for a BCS bowl.

It is a good thing to have 7 home games.

UH was able to get to a P5 Bowl Game last year with 7 home games that helped them win all their home games...and all but one all season long (13-1):

Div I-AA TENNESSEE TECH
TEXAS STATE
VANDERBILT (4-8 record)
@ Louisville (7-5 regular season record)

Correct. However this ooc is better than our 2017 and 2018. Vanderbilt would be our 50/50 game. They have 2 cupcakes. We have 3. Big difference.

You think @ Mizzou in 2018 is a cupcake? 2018 isn't even full yet. But it's sure not 3 cupcakes right now.