Louisville is still #1 at $300 million. Arizona State all the way down to $43 million at #50.

We ain't on this list.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-...1459459516

11: UConn
17: Arkansas
19: Tenn
20: Alabama
23: Northwestern (?!?!?)
24: Dayton
30: Penn State (?!?!?!?)
40: VCU
43: Auburn
46: UNLV

"Brewer analyzed each program’s revenues and expenses and made cash-flow adjustments, risk assessments and growth projections to calculate what a college team would be worth on the open market, if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise."

I'm guessing that cash flow, lack of growth, and an anchor contract may have hurt Memphis.

(04-02-2016 07:28 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  11: UConn
17: Arkansas
19: Tenn
20: Alabama
23: Northwestern (?!?!?)
24: Dayton
30: Penn State (?!?!?!?)
40: VCU
43: Auburn
46: UNLV

"Brewer analyzed each program’s revenues and expenses and made cash-flow adjustments, risk assessments and growth projections to calculate what a college team would be worth on the open market, if it could be bought and sold like a professional franchise."

I'm guessing that cash flow, lack of growth, and an anchor contract may have hurt Memphis.

This is totally ridiculous. If Pastner's contract is not an anchor then Brewer is insane.

(04-02-2016 07:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Louisville is still #1 at $300 million. Arizona State all the way down to $43 million at #50.

We ain't on this list.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-...1459459516

At bottom of article...you can view Top 100....then turn page for the next 75 (rated 175 programs)

Here's how the 2015 value of AAC teams that were listed:

11) UCONN $137.9 Million
31) USF $66.8
66) Memphis $34.5 Million (down from $43.4 Million the year before)
69) Cincinnati $33.5 Million
81) SMU $27.4 Million
86) Tulsa $23.0 Million
87) UCF $22.8 Million
88) Houston $22.7 Million
91) Temple $21.2 Million
100) ECU $8.5 Million

(04-02-2016 08:06 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 07:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Louisville is still #1 at $300 million. Arizona State all the way down to $43 million at #50.

We ain't on this list.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-...1459459516

At bottom of article...you can view Top 100....then turn page for the next 75 (rated 175 programs)

Here's how the 2015 value of AAC teams that were listed:

11) UCONN $137.9 Million
31) USF $66.8
66) Memphis $34.5 Million (down from $43.4 Million the year before)
69) Cincinnati $33.5 Million
81) SMU $27.4 Million
86) Tulsa $23.0 Million
87) UCF $22.8 Million
88) Houston $22.7 Million
91) Temple $21.2 Million
100) ECU $8.5 Million

Nice catch!

USF? WTF?

How is South Florida worth twice as much as us? They give them the highest value of any team in the state of Florida. Plus they have Texas A&M in the B12. Is this some sort of April Fool's article?

(04-02-2016 09:22 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  USF? WTF?

Maybe includes their recent payment from the AAC teams (to former Big East schools), plus Forbes must take in some account the arena (hence why cinci is lower), and/or $$ from women's programs too?

Not sure...

No clue what UL did to lose $60 Million plus in value in just 1 year...especially since they sellout every game.

we have hit rock bottom

This list is BS. Utter BS.

(04-02-2016 09:50 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  This list is BS. Utter BS.

If Memphis was a publicly traded company, I'm sure someone would see a depressed asset and buy it. But Memphis does have a real cash flow challenge, give that attendance is now less than half what it was even a couple years ago. It doesn't own the real estate it plays in. And the cost of increasing attendance appears to be $10 million +.

(04-02-2016 09:50 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  This list is BS. Utter BS.

Ya, I am not putting much stock into that article. There is some wonky stuff going on in their math...

Having USF in there just makes the whole thing stupid

That analysis was done a few years back as well. We were much higher. Someone search the archives. It's in there somewhere.

(04-02-2016 10:01 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 09:50 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  This list is BS. Utter BS.

If Memphis was a publicly traded company, I'm sure someone would see a depressed asset and buy it. But Memphis does have a real cash flow challenge, give that attendance is now less than half what it was even a couple years ago. It doesn't own the real estate it plays in. And the cost of increasing attendance appears to be $10 million +.

i agree, basically

a) we have a high level of fixed costs, making our breakeven point higher which is doubly negatively impacted by our decreased ticket sales

b) we have declining cash inflow from operations which is a factor into this dudes DCF valuation - plus no telling what he's probably projecting as a growth rate, so our true valuation may be less or more than his final number just based on how bad it may actually get

(04-02-2016 07:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Louisville is still #1 at $300 million. Arizona State all the way down to $43 million at #50.

We ain't on this list.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-...1459459516

Because the University chooses to hide all our basketball revenue for some reason. would be in top 10 in 2013.

This analysis is off the chain stupid and flawed.

Move on.

Memphis is worth more than Cincinnati --- East Carolina is worth more than Notre Dame .

Very, very silly. Typical computerized formulation without any common sense at all - for an industry driven by fanaticism. A picture a guy on a computer who has never raised his head to actually watch a game.

I went to a Penn State game a few years back. Anyone thinking that program is the 30th most valuable in the country, doesn't get it.

(04-02-2016 09:31 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Very, very silly. Typical computerized formulation without any common sense at all - for an industry driven by fanaticism. A picture a guy on a computer who has never raised his head to actually watch a game.

I went to a Penn State game a few years back. Anyone thinking that program is the 30th most valuable in the country, doesn't get it.

You're exactly right in the sense that it's a statistical analysis, without any assessment of how fanatical the fans are or what that potential might mean if the team's fortunes change.

But it does give you an idea of the damage being done to the program right now in cold dollars, and why it is so difficult to turn things around at this point.