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(04-01-2016 09:27 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Define fumbling the hire

Not hiring who the fans want

Take the fans out of the mix.

Making a hire that sets the program back a few years, overpaying, alienating the boosters, not hiring the best fit, and ignoring inquires from more qualified and better suited coached than the one you hire. Listening to one meddling trustee and not your money boosters and your constituents in your athletic department.

Again we are hopeful cooler heads will prevail and he will listen to not only all the boosters but people in the athletic department, business leaders, and people on the foundation, as well as at least one member on his committee that is just for show.

If not maybe he still comes through and makes a good hire outside the box. Take the fans out of it. Not everyone else.

(04-02-2016 01:19 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  I disagree on one point. If he hires Ehsan, and Ehsan flops, most of us won't blame Ingram for it. It'll be on all of us.

If Ingram hires someone else, that guy's success and/or failure will be on Ingram, good or bad.

BS. He is the AD making the decision. Whether whoever he hires fails or succeeds, it's his responsibility and not on the fans who are not the deciding party.

If he hires Ehsan, it should be because he thought he was the best candidate, not because it is who the fans wanted.

Completely agree dragon. Again take the fans out of it. He need to worry about the ones footing the bill for part of this salary.

(04-02-2016 01:19 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  I disagree on one point. If he hires Ehsan, and Ehsan flops, most of us won't blame Ingram for it. It'll be on all of us.

If Ingram hires someone else, that guy's success and/or failure will be on Ingram, good or bad.

Fans never blame themselves.

If Ehsan were hired and then sucked, the narrative becomes "What the hell did you listen to me for?"

Ain't that the truth?

(04-02-2016 08:02 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 01:19 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  I disagree on one point. If he hires Ehsan, and Ehsan flops, most of us won't blame Ingram for it. It'll be on all of us.

If Ingram hires someone else, that guy's success and/or failure will be on Ingram, good or bad.

Fans never blame themselves.

If Ehsan were hired and then sucked, the narrative becomes "What the hell did you listen to me for?"

(04-02-2016 11:35 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Ain't that the truth?

Yeah...about that...I've regreted wanting Mike Davis to come here for some time.

(04-02-2016 09:36 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 08:02 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 01:19 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  I disagree on one point. If he hires Ehsan, and Ehsan flops, most of us won't blame Ingram for it. It'll be on all of us.

If Ingram hires someone else, that guy's success and/or failure will be on Ingram, good or bad.

Fans never blame themselves.

If Ehsan were hired and then sucked, the narrative becomes "What the hell did you listen to me for?"

(04-02-2016 11:35 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Ain't that the truth?

Yeah...about that...I've regreted wanting Mike Davis to come here for some time.

I don't remember people blaming Mackin for Davis. At the time, the Davis hire seemed good to many of us, despite the warnings of some IU fans. When things turned sour, we all blamed Davis, which makes my point.

How could we have known that Davis would use the job as a spring to another job (from the get go) to revive their career?

Well, we have 2 candidates who may fit into that category.

(04-04-2016 03:03 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 09:36 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 08:02 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 01:19 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  I disagree on one point. If he hires Ehsan, and Ehsan flops, most of us won't blame Ingram for it. It'll be on all of us.

If Ingram hires someone else, that guy's success and/or failure will be on Ingram, good or bad.

Fans never blame themselves.

If Ehsan were hired and then sucked, the narrative becomes "What the hell did you listen to me for?"

(04-02-2016 11:35 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Ain't that the truth?

Yeah...about that...I've regreted wanting Mike Davis to come here for some time.

I don't remember people blaming Mackin for Davis. At the time, the Davis hire seemed good to many of us, despite the warnings of some IU fans. When things turned sour, we all blamed Davis, which makes my point.

Maybe because Mackin didn't hire Davis? Richard Margison was the active AD at the time. But plenty of people DID blame Mackin for extending his contract and giving him a raise after just 1 over .500 season and an NIT win (followed by an NIT blowout loss).

If you don't think that's the case...you are seeing revisionist history. People were up in arms about the extension for so long that after UAB won the C-USA tournament and went to the NCAA's, Brian Mackin made a point to publicly state that Davis WOULD NOT get another extension.

(04-04-2016 03:03 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  I don't remember people blaming Mackin for Davis. At the time, the Davis hire seemed good to many of us, despite the warnings of some IU fans. When things turned sour, we all blamed Davis, which makes my point.

It looked like a good hire at the time.

After we watched his teams for a while, many of us posted something on the order of "We should have listened to those Indiana fans."

(04-04-2016 10:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 03:03 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  I don't remember people blaming Mackin for Davis. At the time, the Davis hire seemed good to many of us, despite the warnings of some IU fans. When things turned sour, we all blamed Davis, which makes my point.

It looked like a good hire at the time.

After we watched his teams for a while, many of us posted something on the order of "We should have listened to those Indiana fans."

...and Memphis Blazer

(04-04-2016 10:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 03:03 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  I don't remember people blaming Mackin for Davis. At the time, the Davis hire seemed good to many of us, despite the warnings of some IU fans. When things turned sour, we all blamed Davis, which makes my point.

It looked like a good hire at the time.

After we watched his teams for a while, many of us posted something on the order of "We should have listened to those Indiana fans."

I disliked the hire at the time, and I disliked Davis' lack of professionalism as soon as he got here: issuing #20 to Vaden, pushing Alfonso Johnson for the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame over Oliver Robinson, declaring Vaden "the best player in Conference USA the moment he sets foot on the court," stating that "I have to teach these guys how to play basketball. They haven't been playing basketball, they just run up and down the court." All that before he coached his first game.

I appreciate Ehsan's professional demeanor; I halfway expect him to splay out his fingers and say, "Live long and prosper" so he could ease up a little, but at least I'm not embarrassed for my university.