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Trump rise no surprise
Quote:From the point of view of their 99%, the median Republican voter, the last 35 years have been a disaster, and their party has caused it. Because if you are a working- or middle-class white Republican-leaning man, your party has completely and totally screwed you.

They screwed you by holding down the minimum wage.

They screwed you by almost completely eliminating overtime pay.

They screwed the union that used to defend your interests.

The screwed you out of the pension on which the middle-class once retired.

They screwed you a thousand ways on trade, and exported your job.

They screwed you on tax policy by lowering taxes on the rich.

They screwed you on infrastructure and education investment.

They screwed you by deregulating the banks.

They screwed you out of your home during the housing bubble and subsequent collapse.

They screwed you on health care costs.

They screwed you on the cost of college and on student debt.

They screwed you (and sent your kids to die) in the Iraq war.

And then they also screwed you on abortion, and gay marriage, and the “War on Drugs,” and women’s rights, and minority rights, and Obamacare repeal, and all the other things you culturally care about, by delivering … absolutely nothing
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it's a two way street....and I rid myself of X when it became illegal....

but, yeah....most of that is accurate.....I don't do the 'pick and point' thingy....
04-01-2016 11:10 AM
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(04-01-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  They screwed you by holding down the minimum wage.

Noone who gets out there and "works it" was ever affected by the minimum wage. If you apply yourself, the wage you earn wont be anywhere near the minimum wage. So the only people the minimum wage affects are unskilled labor and people who dont apply themselves.

Quote:They screwed you by almost completely eliminating overtime pay.

In reality, Obama and the libturds screwed over time pay when they installed Obamacare, which forced employers to keep their workers below 30 hours per week. Without that in place, workers could be full time, with more chances to earn overtime.

Quote:They screwed the union that used to defend your interests.

Unions have screwed america for decades. It was time for them to get screwed. They only look out for themselves.

Quote:The screwed you out of the pension on which the middle-class once retired.

Noone has been screwed out of their pensions except those who were promised unsustainable union pensions by libturds in cities run into the ground by libturds. You live by the libturd, you die by the libturd. (See Flint water management for further proof of dying by the libturd.)

Quote:They screwed you a thousand ways on trade, and exported your job.

Bill Clinton says hi! As does Hillary. As does Obama.

Quote:They screwed you on tax policy by lowering taxes on the rich.

They lowered taxes on everyone, therefore they did not screw anyone over. Obama, on the other hand, has screwed people over on taxes with Obamacare. Real talk.

Quote:They screwed you on infrastructure and education investment.

I sent two of my kids to a damned excellent private school for less money than the per child expenses paid for public schools. The teachers union has been screwing education.

Quote:They screwed you by deregulating the banks.

And the democrats screwed you over by regulation small banks out of existence. Also, the financial crisis in 2008 was on the hands of the democrats. Real talk.

Quote:They screwed you out of your home during the housing bubble and subsequent collapse.

90% the fault of democrats. I guess you missed the apology they issued for not taking action when Bush asked them to.

Quote:They screwed you on health care costs.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Quote:They screwed you on the cost of college and on student debt.

good grief this guy is stupid.

Quote:They screwed you (and sent your kids to die) in the Iraq war.

Hillary voted for it. Keep that in mind.
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04-01-2016 11:28 AM
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Yup
04-01-2016 11:28 AM
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(04-01-2016 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-01-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  They screwed you by holding down the minimum wage.

Noone who gets out there and "works it" was ever affected by the minimum wage. If you apply yourself, the wage you earn wont be anywhere near the minimum wage. So the only people the minimum wage affects are unskilled labor and people who dont apply themselves.

Quote:They screwed you by almost completely eliminating overtime pay.

In reality, Obama and the libturds screwed over time pay when they installed Obamacare, which forced employers to keep their workers below 30 hours per week. Without that in place, workers could be full time, with more chances to earn overtime.

Quote:They screwed the union that used to defend your interests.

Unions have screwed america for decades. It was time for them to get screwed. They only look out for themselves.
The screwed you out of the pension on which the middle-class once retired.

Quote:They screwed you a thousand ways on trade, and exported your job.

Bill Clinton says hi! As does Hillary. As does Obama.

Quote:They screwed you on tax policy by lowering taxes on the rich.

They lowered taxes on everyone, therefore they did not screw anyone over. Obama, on the other hand, has screwed people over on taxes with Obamacare. Real talk.

Quote:They screwed you on infrastructure and education investment.

I sent two of my kids to a damned excellent private school for less money than the per child expenses paid for public schools. Th eteachers union has been screwing education.

Quote:They screwed you by deregulating the banks.

And the democrats screwed you over by regulation small banks out of existence. Also, the financial crisis in 2008 was on the hands of the democrats. Real talk.

Quote:They screwed you out of your home during the housing bubble and subsequent collapse.

90% the fault of democrats. I guess you missed the apology they issued for not taking action when Bush asked them to.

Quote:They screwed you on health care costs.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Quote:They screwed you on the cost of college and on student debt.

good grief this guy is stupid.

Quote:They screwed you (and sent your kids to die) in the Iraq war.

Hillary voted for it. Keep that in mind.

spat on zee screen!
04-01-2016 11:30 AM
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A column author who just lists a bunch of overly simplistic one-liners isn't worth reading, imo. Put more effort into it than reciting a dozen bombastic protest slogans.
04-01-2016 12:08 PM
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I agree...and He is not the first person to rise to popularity and then power with the same type of messages.
04-01-2016 02:53 PM
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Go actually read some of the body of that "article", not just these stupid bullet points. Reads like a Bernie rally got in bed with Howard Dean and they just put all their "thoughts" and screeds into a hat and wrote them down as they pulled them out.

Authors a regurgitating moron. Doesn't even understand the things he's commenting on. 01-wingedeagle
04-01-2016 03:19 PM
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Actually think the bullet points are dead on.
04-03-2016 02:06 PM
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(04-03-2016 02:06 PM)gsu95 Wrote:  Actually think the bullet points are dead on.

+1

Just because something is simple does not mean it is wrong.
04-03-2016 03:02 PM
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(04-03-2016 03:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 02:06 PM)gsu95 Wrote:  Actually think the bullet points are dead on.

+1

Just because someone is simple does not mean it is wrong.


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04-03-2016 03:11 PM
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(04-01-2016 11:00 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
Quote:From the point of view of their 99%, the median Republican voter, the last 35 years have been a disaster, and their party has caused it. Because if you are a working- or middle-class white Republican-leaning man, your party has completely and totally screwed you.

What a total crock of BS.

Let's just take one example:

Quote:They screwed you a thousand ways on trade, and exported your job.
They screwed you on tax policy by lowering taxes on the rich.

The reason jobs are leaving is because our tax rates for corporations are the highest in the world and our tax rates for the "rich" are among the highest (and would be the highest under Bernie's plan). So corporations and "rich" people move investment--and jobs--overseas to be taxed at lower rates. Has little or nothing to do with free trade or other trade policy, was going on before we entered into any of the trade agreements that are alleged to have caused the problem, and will continue until we fix the true underlying causes.

OK, OK, I know you're going to say, "But the effective rates are less than the statutory rate." Of course, but that just proves my point. They get lower rates by moving economic activity overseas where the rates are lower. But the author doesn't have the integrity to admit that, because doing so would undermine his demagoguery.

Most of the other comments are similarly off base. For one thing, very few of the things that "republicans" are alleged to have done were done without equal and enthusiastic participation by democrats. The bottom line is that BOTH parties have screwed the average American. Note that I'm not making these comments from a pro-republican point of view. I hate republicans too. But comments to the effect that either
1) the things commented upon have actually produced the results alleged, or
2) they are solely, or even primarily, the work of one party,
are blatantly dishonest and disingenuous.

Anybody stupid enough to fall for this crock of BS does not understand what is happening.

Quote:http://ideas.ted.com/were-you-surprised-...l%20issues
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