(04-04-2016 08:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:00 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Too difficult for me to turn away a couple toddlers on the verge of death because of the tiny chance of what they might do 20 years from now.

that's another consequence of lib-dumb

compassion is a weakness....always has been in the land of conquering.....

it's good we keep you hidden away from civilization down in MS...

gotta remember, I'm headed farther south if I live long enough....

I'm just one feller that wants to run away from you weirdos.....it's only a matter of how quickly I can do it....

(04-04-2016 04:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 03:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:23 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:24 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Written at a time before we started trying to implement the welfare state. People used to come and not get food stamps, welfare, and other benefits.

Quote:America is a melting pot...

Used to be that way. Now with new and improved multiculturalism we have decided that asking for integration into American society is racist.

First generation immigrants as a rule have never integrated into American society, particularly if there are a lot of others coming in at the same time. Irish, Mexican, Polish, doesn't matter. Their kids learn the language and assimilate once they go to school and get jobs here and suddenly its not such a big deal.

I'm not worried about the first generation immigrants. I'm worried about the whiny leftists who consider the american flag to be offensive and scary. In fit's mind it's down right understandable to punch someone in the face for wearing one on May 5th.

The problem is not the people coming in. It's the multiculturalism being practiced by those already here.

has always been a battle....

Yes but there was always a strong undercurrent of "assimilation to American values is the goal"... At least that was the view held by the American public at large.

It was never perfect and it never treated immigrants perfectly but it led to large immigrant groups quickly becoming Americanized.

Today you have a primary current being one where "American Culture" is a slanderous insult. So there is little pressure on incoming immigrants to adopt American political and civic virtues.

(04-04-2016 09:00 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 04:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 03:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:23 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:24 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Written at a time before we started trying to implement the welfare state. People used to come and not get food stamps, welfare, and other benefits.


Used to be that way. Now with new and improved multiculturalism we have decided that asking for integration into American society is racist.

First generation immigrants as a rule have never integrated into American society, particularly if there are a lot of others coming in at the same time. Irish, Mexican, Polish, doesn't matter. Their kids learn the language and assimilate once they go to school and get jobs here and suddenly its not such a big deal.

I'm not worried about the first generation immigrants. I'm worried about the whiny leftists who consider the american flag to be offensive and scary. In fit's mind it's down right understandable to punch someone in the face for wearing one on May 5th.

The problem is not the people coming in. It's the multiculturalism being practiced by those already here.

has always been a battle....

Yes but there was always a strong undercurrent of "assimilation to American values is the goal"... At least that was the view held by the American public at large.

It was never perfect and it never treated immigrants perfectly but it led to large immigrant groups quickly becoming Americanized.

Today you have a primary current being one where "American Culture" is a slanderous insult. So there is little pressure on incoming immigrants to adopt American political and civic virtues.

So just let Them stay at home where They can practice Their own Culture instead of coming here and Leeching off of America. F'Em

(04-04-2016 09:00 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 04:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 03:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:23 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 12:24 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Written at a time before we started trying to implement the welfare state. People used to come and not get food stamps, welfare, and other benefits.


Used to be that way. Now with new and improved multiculturalism we have decided that asking for integration into American society is racist.

First generation immigrants as a rule have never integrated into American society, particularly if there are a lot of others coming in at the same time. Irish, Mexican, Polish, doesn't matter. Their kids learn the language and assimilate once they go to school and get jobs here and suddenly its not such a big deal.

I'm not worried about the first generation immigrants. I'm worried about the whiny leftists who consider the american flag to be offensive and scary. In fit's mind it's down right understandable to punch someone in the face for wearing one on May 5th.

The problem is not the people coming in. It's the multiculturalism being practiced by those already here.

has always been a battle....

Yes but there was always a strong undercurrent of "assimilation to American values is the goal"... At least that was the view held by the American public at large.

It was never perfect and it never treated immigrants perfectly but it led to large immigrant groups quickly becoming Americanized.

Today you have a primary current being one where "American Culture" is a slanderous insult. So there is little pressure on incoming immigrants to adopt American political and civic virtues.

b/c they were forced into the labor force...it's why the came....we had to build the infrastructure and needed bodies...

today's version is unnecessarily needed

Seems to me that the best thing we could do (where possible) is establish a 'beach-head' in those countries and create a safe zone. Certainly the rebels would attack the safe zone, but they quite obviously would be attacking the 'civilians' there, since all we would be doing is protecting the 'border'

We can ensure food, water, medical treatment etc etc etc... and we can monitor the border. If they want to leave, they're on their own. They get heavily searched when they come in, and we can control what comes in and out (at least a lot) and make sure that no weapons or things that could be used as 'major' weapons come through. No raw chemicals... no heavy lab equipment.... etc etc etc.

Be patient and give it some time.

Muslim students exempted from shaking female teacher's hand in Swiss district
http://www.globalpost.com/article/675483...s-district

This almost happened at Duke U.

After Saying Yes, Duke Nixes Muslim Call To Prayer From Chapel Bell Tower

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2...bell-tower

blame globalization. you take the good you take the bad. the world is everyone's problem

(04-04-2016 11:47 AM)Lush Wrote:  blame globalization. you take the good you take the bad. the world is everyone's problem

it is now....I blame tech improvements....

therefore, "freedom of religion" has taken on another godddammed meaning....

(04-04-2016 11:47 AM)Lush Wrote:  blame globalization. you take the good you take the bad. the world is everyone's problem

Blame the administration's refugee policies.

(04-04-2016 08:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:00 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Too difficult for me to turn away a couple toddlers on the verge of death because of the tiny chance of what they might do 20 years from now.

that's another consequence of lib-dumb

compassion is a weakness....always has been in the land of conquering.....

it matters not whether you like it or not....the only historical failure was integration and how viruses kept the population to a min....

Thats what ******* say. The North should have taken that approach and hung every southern male from ages of 16-68 in 1865. Then you'd have gotten the hint.

(04-05-2016 09:18 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 08:00 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Too difficult for me to turn away a couple toddlers on the verge of death because of the tiny chance of what they might do 20 years from now.

that's another consequence of lib-dumb

compassion is a weakness....always has been in the land of conquering.....

it matters not whether you like it or not....the only historical failure was integration and how viruses kept the population to a min....

Thats what ******* say. The North should have taken that approach and hung every southern male from ages of 16-68 in 1865. Then you'd have gotten the hint.

You probably would never have been born if that had happened.