(04-01-2016 11:05 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:22 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 05:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  No matter who is elected in 2016, the coming worldwide financial collapse will change everything about the way we live.

Stop watching the news. Take your wife on a date. Use your tongue in bed. Then, you will stop making comments like the one above.

And some think there's actually hope for this nation.........

Lets see, where to start? The US national debt today is over $19 trillion. Does that bother you at all? Do you have any idea just how big a number a trillion is? Let me put 1 trillion into perspective for you:

1 million seconds equals 11.57 days (that's right, days, not years)
1 billion seconds equals 31.7 years (that's YEARS!, not days)
1 trillion seconds equals 31,700 YEARS!

And for what it's worth:

19 trillion seconds equals 602,300 years.

In other words, 19 trillion is such an astronomical figure that there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that it can ever be repaid. Anyone that thinks things are just fine is either very naive, or dumb as hell. Not sure which of the two you are.

There is hope. There is always hope and I hope that you would stop complaining and fear-mongering about an inept government that has no effect on your daily life. Let the media handle that..they do it well.

Facts are fear-mongering? Fact: The sky is blue.

I must be some nut job now.

(04-01-2016 11:14 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:05 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:22 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 05:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  No matter who is elected in 2016, the coming worldwide financial collapse will change everything about the way we live.

Stop watching the news. Take your wife on a date. Use your tongue in bed. Then, you will stop making comments like the one above.

And some think there's actually hope for this nation.........

Lets see, where to start? The US national debt today is over $19 trillion. Does that bother you at all? Do you have any idea just how big a number a trillion is? Let me put 1 trillion into perspective for you:

1 million seconds equals 11.57 days (that's right, days, not years)
1 billion seconds equals 31.7 years (that's YEARS!, not days)
1 trillion seconds equals 31,700 YEARS!

And for what it's worth:

19 trillion seconds equals 602,300 years.

In other words, 19 trillion is such an astronomical figure that there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that it can ever be repaid. Anyone that thinks things are just fine is either very naive, or dumb as hell. Not sure which of the two you are.

There is hope. There is always hope and I hope that you would stop complaining and fear-mongering about an inept government that has no effect on your daily life. Let the media handle that..they do it well.

Facts are fear-mongering? Fact: The sky is blue.

I must be some nut job now.

"The coming worldwide financial collapse" = fear-mongering. Facts are great.

I will vote for Trump this fall. I can't stand any of the the other liars. If he builds the wall and we get illegal and legal immigration under control, then its a win and I don't care what else trump does. I truly believe that Trump wants to do what he thinks is right for the USA and most of his policies are middle of the round on the conservative side.

I can't stand Ted Cruz because the way he talks down to people or maybe because he sounds like an ass when speaking.

Kasic = RINO liberal

Berny = Never run out of other peoples money

Hillary = Scariest of all. Can you imagine having to listen to her talk for 4 years. She would have a special department in the government to find people that can stand to listen to her. Never has a woman done so little to be placed atop a party void of new ideas.

April fools! Right, Stink?

I know Hillary would be bad, but secession is pretty extreme.

(04-01-2016 11:16 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:14 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:05 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:22 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  Stop watching the news. Take your wife on a date. Use your tongue in bed. Then, you will stop making comments like the one above.

And some think there's actually hope for this nation.........

Lets see, where to start? The US national debt today is over $19 trillion. Does that bother you at all? Do you have any idea just how big a number a trillion is? Let me put 1 trillion into perspective for you:

1 million seconds equals 11.57 days (that's right, days, not years)
1 billion seconds equals 31.7 years (that's YEARS!, not days)
1 trillion seconds equals 31,700 YEARS!

And for what it's worth:

19 trillion seconds equals 602,300 years.

In other words, 19 trillion is such an astronomical figure that there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that it can ever be repaid. Anyone that thinks things are just fine is either very naive, or dumb as hell. Not sure which of the two you are.

There is hope. There is always hope and I hope that you would stop complaining and fear-mongering about an inept government that has no effect on your daily life. Let the media handle that..they do it well.

Facts are fear-mongering? Fact: The sky is blue.

I must be some nut job now.

"The coming worldwide financial collapse" = fear-mongering. Facts are great.

Why don't you answer his question then? How will it be paid? He didn't state it would be end of civilization.

Anyone that has taken a math or finance class would realize it is unsustainable and the repercussions are coming at some point soon.

(04-01-2016 07:43 AM)herdinva Wrote:  Lets see:

Trump = radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing, which is refreshing. Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think. Is it a good thing, we don't know. I think more working class individuals would vote for him over the other two mentioned simply due to fed up with how things have been under Obama and most hate the direction that Clinton or Sanders want to take us.

"Radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing,"

False. The few actual policies he's putting forward are about as Republican as you can get.

"Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think."

This is one of the things that I find the most interesting. What people love about him so much is that he "tells it like he sees it," but his history obviously shows that he does anything but that. If you look at how his views change, it is clear that he says whatever is beneficial to him at a given time.

Second, when did this become a reason to elect someone. If what he's saying is "radical"--or to take my descriptor, batshit crazy--how does "telling it like it is" become a reason to vote for someone.

Really, though, I do have a question for you. You can even ignore everything I said above because I really want to hear what you say about this. Being in Mississippi and Alabama, I have shockingly never even met someone who admitted to being a Trump supporter. Granted, I'm a liberal grad student so the people I'm around are either pretty mainstream Republican or liberal. My question is this: What EXACTLY are you so mad about?

I have heard tons of Trump supporters on TV and call-in shows but they never seem to be able to articulate anything that is actually real or anything specific policy wise, which is totally new and what I find really interesting. It is either something that is "trumped up" (thank you) or very vague ("we're losing," "our country is being taken over," "political correctness").

This is the year of the "angry candidate" (save for Clinton) but all of the other candidates' supporters seem to have a clear idea and something specific that they are angry about. Sanders supporters and Cruz supporters, neither of whom I agree with, can actually articulate what they dislike to some degree and how they think their candidate can fix it (even if it is delusional). I don't hear that with Trump supporters. It seems like they are angry....but they don't really know what they are angry about and what they want someone to do about it (aside from maybe immigration). To some extent, I guess I've seen it with Bernie supporters who obviously aren't socialists but are just pissed off about income inequality (which is very vague, as well).

I don't ask this disrespectfully. Genuinely curious. I fully understand Trump's appeal. I have grown up around conservatives and the things he is saying are nothing new. New for a candidate, but I've been hearing what he's saying since my grandmother babysat me as a kid and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I am honestly baffled that people are shocked by his rise. I'm just curious what specifically people think he's going to do.

(04-01-2016 11:23 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I will vote for Trump this fall. I can't stand any of the the other liars. If he builds the wall and we get illegal and legal immigration under control, then its a win and I don't care what else trump does. I truly believe that Trump wants to do what he thinks is right for the USA and most of his policies are middle of the round on the conservative side.

I can't stand Ted Cruz because the way he talks down to people or maybe because he sounds like an ass when speaking.

Kasic = RINO liberal

Berny = Never run out of other peoples money

Hillary = Scariest of all. Can you imagine having to listen to her talk for 4 years. She would have a special department in the government to find people that can stand to listen to her. Never has a woman done so little to be placed atop a party void of new ideas.

Did you just imply you're voting for Trump because he's not a liar? I mean vote for whomever you want, I just want to make sure I read that correctly...

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(04-01-2016 11:39 AM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 07:43 AM)herdinva Wrote:  Lets see:

Trump = radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing, which is refreshing. Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think. Is it a good thing, we don't know. I think more working class individuals would vote for him over the other two mentioned simply due to fed up with how things have been under Obama and most hate the direction that Clinton or Sanders want to take us.

"Radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing,"

False. The few actual policies he's putting forward are about as Republican as you can get.

"Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think."

This is one of the things that I find the most interesting. What people love about him so much is that he "tells it like he sees it," but his history obviously shows that he does anything but that. If you look at how his views change, it is clear that he says whatever is beneficial to him at a given time.

Second, when did this become a reason to elect someone. If what he's saying is "radical"--or to take my descriptor, batshit crazy--how does "telling it like it is" become a reason to vote for someone.

Really, though, I do have a question for you. You can even ignore everything I said above because I really want to hear what you say about this. Being in Mississippi and Alabama, I have shockingly never even met someone who admitted to being a Trump supporter. Granted, I'm a liberal grad student so it is probably the company I keep. My question is this: What EXACTLY are you so mad about?

I have heard tons of Trump supporters on TV and call-in shows but they never seem to be able to articulate anything that is actually real or anything specific policy wise, which is totally new and what I find really interesting. It is either something that is "trumped up" (thank you) or very vague ("we're losing," "our country is being taken over," "political correctness").

This is the year of the "angry candidate" (save for Clinton) but all of the other candidates' supporters seem to have a clear idea and something specific that they are angry about. Sanders supporters and Cruz supporters, neither of whom I agree with, can actually articulate what they dislike to some degree and how they think their candidate can fix it (even if it is delusional). I don't hear that with Trump supporters. It seems like they are angry....but they don't really know what they are angry about and what they want someone to do about it (aside from maybe immigration). To some extent, I guess I've seen it with Bernie supporters who obviously aren't socialists but are just pissed off about income inequality (which is very vague, as well).

I don't ask this disrespectfully. Genuinely curious. I fully understand Trump's appeal. I have grown up around conservatives and the things he is saying are nothing new. New for a candidate, but I've been hearing what he's saying since my grandmother babysat me as a kid and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I am honestly baffled that people are shocked by his rise. I'm just curious what specifically people think he's going to do.

Aside from the Sanders part, I couldn't agree with you more. But there's no way to get through to Trump supporters anymore than you could convince me to vote for shillary in the upcoming NY closed primaries. They feel something so strong that no amount of logic can erode.

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(04-01-2016 11:47 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:39 AM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 07:43 AM)herdinva Wrote:  Lets see:

Trump = radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing, which is refreshing. Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think. Is it a good thing, we don't know. I think more working class individuals would vote for him over the other two mentioned simply due to fed up with how things have been under Obama and most hate the direction that Clinton or Sanders want to take us.

"Radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing,"

False. The few actual policies he's putting forward are about as Republican as you can get.

"Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think."

This is one of the things that I find the most interesting. What people love about him so much is that he "tells it like he sees it," but his history obviously shows that he does anything but that. If you look at how his views change, it is clear that he says whatever is beneficial to him at a given time.

Second, when did this become a reason to elect someone. If what he's saying is "radical"--or to take my descriptor, batshit crazy--how does "telling it like it is" become a reason to vote for someone.

Really, though, I do have a question for you. You can even ignore everything I said above because I really want to hear what you say about this. Being in Mississippi and Alabama, I have shockingly never even met someone who admitted to being a Trump supporter. Granted, I'm a liberal grad student so it is probably the company I keep. My question is this: What EXACTLY are you so mad about?

I have heard tons of Trump supporters on TV and call-in shows but they never seem to be able to articulate anything that is actually real or anything specific policy wise, which is totally new and what I find really interesting. It is either something that is "trumped up" (thank you) or very vague ("we're losing," "our country is being taken over," "political correctness").

This is the year of the "angry candidate" (save for Clinton) but all of the other candidates' supporters seem to have a clear idea and something specific that they are angry about. Sanders supporters and Cruz supporters, neither of whom I agree with, can actually articulate what they dislike to some degree and how they think their candidate can fix it (even if it is delusional). I don't hear that with Trump supporters. It seems like they are angry....but they don't really know what they are angry about and what they want someone to do about it (aside from maybe immigration). To some extent, I guess I've seen it with Bernie supporters who obviously aren't socialists but are just pissed off about income inequality (which is very vague, as well).

I don't ask this disrespectfully. Genuinely curious. I fully understand Trump's appeal. I have grown up around conservatives and the things he is saying are nothing new. New for a candidate, but I've been hearing what he's saying since my grandmother babysat me as a kid and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I am honestly baffled that people are shocked by his rise. I'm just curious what specifically people think he's going to do.

Aside from the Sanders part, I couldn't agree with you more. But there's no way to get through to Trump supporters anymore than you could convince me to vote for shillary in the upcoming NY closed primaries. They feel something so strong that no amount of logic can erode.

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You're right. Trump is teflon Don, at this point.

His supporters aren't going anywhere. Definitely not trying to "get through" to them. I'm not the person to do that. I'm familiar enough with people like them to know their worldview and the general appeal of Trump's persona and rhetoric. I'm moreso just trying to understand, specifically, what they are mad at, what they think the government can do about it, and how they reconcile Trump being a "revolutionary" candidate in their mind when petty much all of his specific plans released (few) are about as mainstream GOP as you can get.

(04-01-2016 11:38 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:16 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:14 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 11:05 AM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 09:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  And some think there's actually hope for this nation.........

Lets see, where to start? The US national debt today is over $19 trillion. Does that bother you at all? Do you have any idea just how big a number a trillion is? Let me put 1 trillion into perspective for you:

1 million seconds equals 11.57 days (that's right, days, not years)
1 billion seconds equals 31.7 years (that's YEARS!, not days)
1 trillion seconds equals 31,700 YEARS!

And for what it's worth:

19 trillion seconds equals 602,300 years.

In other words, 19 trillion is such an astronomical figure that there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that it can ever be repaid. Anyone that thinks things are just fine is either very naive, or dumb as hell. Not sure which of the two you are.

There is hope. There is always hope and I hope that you would stop complaining and fear-mongering about an inept government that has no effect on your daily life. Let the media handle that..they do it well.

Facts are fear-mongering? Fact: The sky is blue.

I must be some nut job now.

"The coming worldwide financial collapse" = fear-mongering. Facts are great.

Why don't you answer his question then? How will it be paid? He didn't state it would be end of civilization.

Anyone that has taken a math or finance class would realize it is unsustainable and the repercussions are coming at some point soon.

Did you notice my comment about our inept government? I do not disagree that there is an enormous debt(fact). Even balancing the budget would be difficult, much less paying off the debt. So, to ask me how it will be paid off is irrelevant. We all realize it probably never will be. A better question would be, if you, me and all other tax-paying Americans paid off all of our own debt, how would that effect the economy? What are you personally doing to improve the economy? The whole point I was making is that it's more important that we all take responsibility for our own lives and live well rather than worrying about what the government is or is not going to do. Focus on what you can actually change to make things better. Telling others that financial collapse is coming is not a very productive statement is it?

I'm so glad he didn't say it would be the end of civilization. That's encouraging.

No.

(04-01-2016 05:42 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  No matter who is elected in 2016, the coming worldwide financial collapse will change everything about the way we live.

Your thoughts certainly brightened my day.

Well if the Dems and their European cousins manage to regulate GMOs, there will be mass starvation across the planet.

(04-01-2016 11:23 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I will vote for Trump this fall. I can't stand any of the the other liars. If he builds the wall and we get illegal and legal immigration under control, then its a win and I don't care what else trump does. I truly believe that Trump wants to do what he thinks is right for the USA and most of his policies are middle of the round on the conservative side.

I can't stand Ted Cruz because the way he talks down to people or maybe because he sounds like an ass when speaking.

Kasic = RINO liberal

Berny = Never run out of other peoples money

Hillary = Scariest of all. Can you imagine having to listen to her talk for 4 years. She would have a special department in the government to find people that can stand to listen to her. Never has a woman done so little to be placed atop a party void of new ideas.

You were sounding reasonable until that. You just described Donald Trump perfectly.

(04-01-2016 11:39 AM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(04-01-2016 07:43 AM)herdinva Wrote:  Lets see:

Trump = radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing, which is refreshing. Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think. Is it a good thing, we don't know. I think more working class individuals would vote for him over the other two mentioned simply due to fed up with how things have been under Obama and most hate the direction that Clinton or Sanders want to take us.

"Radical in his own way, neither left wing or right wing,"

False. The few actual policies he's putting forward are about as Republican as you can get.

"Tells it like he sees it, doesn't care what others think."

This is one of the things that I find the most interesting. What people love about him so much is that he "tells it like he sees it," but his history obviously shows that he does anything but that. If you look at how his views change, it is clear that he says whatever is beneficial to him at a given time.

Second, when did this become a reason to elect someone. If what he's saying is "radical"--or to take my descriptor, batshit crazy--how does "telling it like it is" become a reason to vote for someone.

Really, though, I do have a question for you. You can even ignore everything I said above because I really want to hear what you say about this. Being in Mississippi and Alabama, I have shockingly never even met someone who admitted to being a Trump supporter. Granted, I'm a liberal grad student so the people I'm around are either pretty mainstream Republican or liberal. My question is this: What EXACTLY are you so mad about?

I have heard tons of Trump supporters on TV and call-in shows but they never seem to be able to articulate anything that is actually real or anything specific policy wise, which is totally new and what I find really interesting. It is either something that is "trumped up" (thank you) or very vague ("we're losing," "our country is being taken over," "political correctness").

This is the year of the "angry candidate" (save for Clinton) but all of the other candidates' supporters seem to have a clear idea and something specific that they are angry about. Sanders supporters and Cruz supporters, neither of whom I agree with, can actually articulate what they dislike to some degree and how they think their candidate can fix it (even if it is delusional). I don't hear that with Trump supporters. It seems like they are angry....but they don't really know what they are angry about and what they want someone to do about it (aside from maybe immigration). To some extent, I guess I've seen it with Bernie supporters who obviously aren't socialists but are just pissed off about income inequality (which is very vague, as well).

I don't ask this disrespectfully. Genuinely curious. I fully understand Trump's appeal. I have grown up around conservatives and the things he is saying are nothing new. New for a candidate, but I've been hearing what he's saying since my grandmother babysat me as a kid and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I am honestly baffled that people are shocked by his rise. I'm just curious what specifically people think he's going to do.

I think its pretty clear what they are mad about. Its just that he attracts people across the spectrum so they aren't all mad about the same thing.
1) HS grads are mad about free trade deals and the loss of manufacturing jobs. Donald says he will negotiate better.
2) Social conservatives are mad about the Supreme Court creating rights nobody could have conceived of 20 years ago and then people getting sued because they didn't want to participate in gay marriages. Donald isn't going to get pushed around on anything.
3) Conservatives are mad because the Republicans have promised things in Congress and not delivered. Donald promises to be tougher.
4) Many are mad about illegal immigration and its impact on jobs and terrorism. Donald will build a wall.
5) All of them are mad about the Democrat's and media's denigration of their groups as unimportant, failures, bigots, close-minded, etc. Donald will stand up for them.
6) All are them are unhappy about the stagnant economy. Donald will be different.

If you don't understand any of this, you have really been in a liberal bubble. I think he would be a disaster as president, but he is touching on real concerns and addressing a number of groups that have mostly been ignored.

(04-01-2016 11:30 AM)Murray007 Wrote:  April fools! Right, Stink?

I know Hillary would be bad, but secession is pretty extreme.

nope....I'm dead serious....if the dimwig wins this one, shite's gonna hit the fan...and the smell will be worse than the yeast colony of infection....

it will happen at some point on the current path being laid...my best guess is I'm dead or in costa....14.2 and counting down....

it's just what I see happening....it's only my opinion....and I worry for my daughter....

(04-01-2016 11:23 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I will vote for Trump this fall. I can't stand any of the the other liars. If he builds the wall and we get illegal and legal immigration under control, then its a win and I don't care what else trump does. I truly believe that Trump wants to do what he thinks is right for the USA and most of his policies are middle of the round on the conservative side.

I believe Trump wants to be President so he can say he is President. His ego is all.

(04-01-2016 11:23 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I can't stand Ted Cruz because the way he talks down to people or maybe because he sounds like an ass when speaking.

Are you suggesting this isn't exactly what Trump does every time he opens his mouth?

I'll be looking for an Independent to "waste" my vote on. As if voting for any of the remaining options wouldn't be a bigger waste :/

I certainly hope so but it won't happen.