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Does Cost of Attendance Matter
Kenny Brooks 3-28-16

“You can build a brand-new house, but if you don’t have any furniture to put in it, it’s not going to be a very nice house,” Brooks said Monday. “And I think that the cost of attendance is something that’s going to be very important for JMU down the road to discuss and look at it from a different angle. My contract extension, I think you kind of understand it. It wasn’t anything to get excited about
03-29-2016 05:50 AM
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Dukeman, take it easy, this crowd can't handle quotes, especially from an insider they support, quotes are hard to dismiss as a loud minority conspiracy. Truth makes it real and they can't handle the truth.
03-29-2016 06:21 AM
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I loved that quote, and it was important. Here's our most successful coach ever telling us how vital COA is for our future. It's extremely frustrating to see JMU continue to monitor the situation.
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The enablers have remained silent so far, so lets go to the video tape:


Nation – “These kids have worked hard and earned a free ride because of it. I just think more is being made of COA than it is. Those that are truly in need may choose another school but I think that will be a low number of the 450+ student athletes that will ultimately choose JMU. I imagine it will be those truly in need”

Longhorn – “Pres. Alger letter is better described as a position paper signed by a number of senior administrators, not something that should affect our athletic programs”
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(03-29-2016 07:42 AM)Dukeman Wrote:  The enablers have remained silent so far, so lets go to the video tape:


Nation – “These kids have worked hard and earned a free ride because of it. I just think more is being made of COA than it is. Those that are truly in need may choose another school but I think that will be a low number of the 450+ student athletes that will ultimately choose JMU. I imagine it will be those truly in need”

Longhorn – “Pres. Alger letter is better described as a position paper signed by a number of senior administrators, not something that should affect our athletic programs”

Yes --- where is LH who has been adamant that KB was not going anywhere. Money talks and BS walks.
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Our fanbase is the laughing stock of these boards.
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Stick a fork in us folks, a big ol fork.
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Thank you Kenny for validating my COA rants the past 18 months. JMU's leadership was a push factor that helped lead our most successful coach out of Harrisonburg. I understand KB is making a lot more money at VT but his comments speak to his frustration about lack of COAs.
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COA is very important. I'm not sure how people think it's not. Either you look to the future or you get left behind. The schools with no COA will be left behind.
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(03-29-2016 10:24 AM)GH86 Wrote:  COA is very important. I'm not sure how people think it's not. Either you look to the future or you get left behind. The schools with no COA will be left behind.

Without COAs we will get left behind and stuck with a $80+ Million mortgage debt to service. 03-puke
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Great Quote by Kenny Brooks... It shows that the admin have no clue what they are doing.
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JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.
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(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.
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(03-29-2016 10:56 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.

That's all google-able but off the top of my head

1 Carr study ~ 60K

1 Carr FB search ~ 40K (withers)

1 Fogler BB search ~ 20K. (Just a guess really).

Total $120K

COA for 24 hoops players at 3K per = 72K

Consultants or 1.6 years of COA for hoops?
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(03-29-2016 10:56 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.

COA is a must going forward. Start with Mens and Womens BBall and go from there. The consulting fees and buyout from EW would definitely get the ball rolling for COA on basketball very nicely.
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(03-29-2016 11:38 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:56 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.

COA is a must going forward. Start with Mens and Womens BBall and go from there. The consulting fees and buyout from EW would definitely get the ball rolling for COA on basketball very nicely.

+ the NCAA $55K match....
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if the student athletes that are telling the recruiters that COA's matter, well.....
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(03-29-2016 11:35 AM)JMUETC Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:56 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.

That's all google-able but off the top of my head

1 Carr study ~ 60K

1 Carr FB search ~ 40K (withers)

1 Fogler BB search ~ 20K. (Just a guess really).

Total $120K

COA for 24 hoops players at 3K per = 72K

Consultants or 1.6 years of COA for hoops?

You can add on the legal settlement with Marist b/c Jeff Bourne did not read Brady's contract. Was that $100,000?
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(03-29-2016 11:35 AM)JMUETC Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:56 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(03-29-2016 10:38 AM)JMU Wrote:  JMU has made a decision to continue to pay consultant fees for Head Coach searches vs. paying COA.

I would love to see the $$$ spent on "consulting" over the last 4 years.

That's all google-able but off the top of my head

1 Carr study ~ 60K

1 Carr FB search ~ 40K (withers)

1 Fogler BB search ~ 20K. (Just a guess really).

Total $120K

COA for 24 hoops players at 3K per = 72K

Consultants or 1.6 years of COA for hoops?

Add in the money for the Carr search for Houston. Plus the new money for the firm to replace Brooks. Now we are sitting at close to $200k
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Funding COA for Men's and Women's basketball is not a money issue. It would cost 100k a year.

You have a president penning letters leading the fight against COA. There is some fundamental issue Alger has with COA.

Bourne keeps giving quotes how JMU won't do anything that will hurt their competitiveness long term.

Guess we shall all wait around until the damage is done before doing anything. Not like you have a big recruiting class coming up or anything with basketball.......
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