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RE: Bowlsby: Big 12 study shows title game improves playoff chances
(04-04-2016 01:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 10:05 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the Big 10 has never showed a bit of interest in OU I don't see why people think they would be a lock to get into the Big 10 if they wanted to

Some of the sports nation media....i.e. CBS sports etc., reported a couple of years ago that the Big10 had vetted five schools and OU and Kansas were two of the five.

exactly and they ended up adding Maryland and Rutgers instead

because they were not interested in OU

they could have had Missouri if they wanted which is at least the same academically as Rutgers and much better athletically and they went with Rutgers and MU is still in the AAU and MU touches the Big 10 states and Missouri has more population than Oklahoma as well

MU had everything the Big 10 would have looked for

OU does not.....never been in the AAU, not a research powerhouse, does not touch the big 10 states, smaller population and as of now an even bigger blabber mouth president of the university than MU

I have always felt the Big 10 blamed MU for letting the word get out to NU that the Big 10 was expanding and thus the word getting out to everyone and the Big 10 not being able to lock down UVA or others from the ACC before the ACC could act

and that is the reason that MU was frozen out of the Big 10 and the ability of NU to keep quiet won the Big 10 over

there is not a chance in hell that boren will shut up and the Big 10 is not going to deal with that and every time boren runs his mouth the Big 10 gets further and further away from the already LONG way off they are from considering OU
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RE: Bowlsby: Big 12 study shows title game improves playoff chances
(04-04-2016 04:17 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 01:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 10:05 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the Big 10 has never showed a bit of interest in OU I don't see why people think they would be a lock to get into the Big 10 if they wanted to

Some of the sports nation media....i.e. CBS sports etc., reported a couple of years ago that the Big10 had vetted five schools and OU and Kansas were two of the five.

exactly and they ended up adding Maryland and Rutgers instead

because they were not interested in OU

they could have had Missouri if they wanted which is at least the same academically as Rutgers and much better athletically and they went with Rutgers and MU is still in the AAU and MU touches the Big 10 states and Missouri has more population than Oklahoma as well

MU had everything the Big 10 would have looked for

OU does not.....never been in the AAU, not a research powerhouse, does not touch the big 10 states, smaller population and as of now an even bigger blabber mouth president of the university than MU

I have always felt the Big 10 blamed MU for letting the word get out to NU that the Big 10 was expanding and thus the word getting out to everyone and the Big 10 not being able to lock down UVA or others from the ACC before the ACC could act

and that is the reason that MU was frozen out of the Big 10 and the ability of NU to keep quiet won the Big 10 over

there is not a chance in hell that boren will shut up and the Big 10 is not going to deal with that and every time boren runs his mouth the Big 10 gets further and further away from the already LONG way off they are from considering OU

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RE: Bowlsby: Big 12 study shows title game improves playoff chances
(04-04-2016 04:17 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 01:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 10:05 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the Big 10 has never showed a bit of interest in OU I don't see why people think they would be a lock to get into the Big 10 if they wanted to

Some of the sports nation media....i.e. CBS sports etc., reported a couple of years ago that the Big10 had vetted five schools and OU and Kansas were two of the five.

exactly and they ended up adding Maryland and Rutgers instead

because they were not interested in OU

they could have had Missouri if they wanted which is at least the same academically as Rutgers and much better athletically and they went with Rutgers and MU is still in the AAU and MU touches the Big 10 states and Missouri has more population than Oklahoma as well

MU had everything the Big 10 would have looked for

OU does not.....never been in the AAU, not a research powerhouse, does not touch the big 10 states, smaller population and as of now an even bigger blabber mouth president of the university than MU

I have always felt the Big 10 blamed MU for letting the word get out to NU that the Big 10 was expanding and thus the word getting out to everyone and the Big 10 not being able to lock down UVA or others from the ACC before the ACC could act

and that is the reason that MU was frozen out of the Big 10 and the ability of NU to keep quiet won the Big 10 over

there is not a chance in hell that boren will shut up and the Big 10 is not going to deal with that and every time boren runs his mouth the Big 10 gets further and further away from the already LONG way off they are from considering OU

If they had no interest in OU, then why waste time and money vetting them?? You don't waste resources on schools you do not have any interest

Also, IIRC the vetting of OU and Kansas came after Maryland and Rutgers were admitted.

If OU and Kansas are admitted as a pair, then OU does touch the Big10 states.

As for being a smaller population state, that did not stop them from inviting Nebraska, so that argument does not hold water. OU like Nebraska is a brand name.

(As a side note on Missouri vs Nebraska, all the reports I read, said the Big wanted to invite only one team to get to 12, and they chose Nebraska over Missouri, because the Networks told them Nebraska was a much bigger TV draw. Evidently the Missouri President's mouth had nothing to do with it.)

You are correct OU is not an AAU school, but Nebraska no longer is an AAU school. So what is the big difference in having two instead of one.

OU and Kansas to the Big10 is not a slam dunk by any means. But to say there is absolutely no interest and never has been, does not appear to be correct.
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RE: Bowlsby: Big 12 study shows title game improves playoff chances
(04-04-2016 05:41 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 04:17 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 01:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 10:05 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the Big 10 has never showed a bit of interest in OU I don't see why people think they would be a lock to get into the Big 10 if they wanted to

Some of the sports nation media....i.e. CBS sports etc., reported a couple of years ago that the Big10 had vetted five schools and OU and Kansas were two of the five.

exactly and they ended up adding Maryland and Rutgers instead

because they were not interested in OU

they could have had Missouri if they wanted which is at least the same academically as Rutgers and much better athletically and they went with Rutgers and MU is still in the AAU and MU touches the Big 10 states and Missouri has more population than Oklahoma as well

MU had everything the Big 10 would have looked for

OU does not.....never been in the AAU, not a research powerhouse, does not touch the big 10 states, smaller population and as of now an even bigger blabber mouth president of the university than MU

I have always felt the Big 10 blamed MU for letting the word get out to NU that the Big 10 was expanding and thus the word getting out to everyone and the Big 10 not being able to lock down UVA or others from the ACC before the ACC could act

and that is the reason that MU was frozen out of the Big 10 and the ability of NU to keep quiet won the Big 10 over

there is not a chance in hell that boren will shut up and the Big 10 is not going to deal with that and every time boren runs his mouth the Big 10 gets further and further away from the already LONG way off they are from considering OU

If they had no interest in OU, then why waste time and money vetting them?? You don't waste resources on schools you do not have any interest

Also, IIRC the vetting of OU and Kansas came after Maryland and Rutgers were admitted.

If OU and Kansas are admitted as a pair, then OU does touch the Big10 states.

As for being a smaller population state, that did not stop them from inviting Nebraska, so that argument does not hold water. OU like Nebraska is a brand name.

(As a side note on Missouri vs Nebraska, all the reports I read, said the Big wanted to invite only one team to get to 12, and they chose Nebraska over Missouri, because the Networks told them Nebraska was a much bigger TV draw. Evidently the Missouri President's mouth had nothing to do with it.)

You are correct OU is not an AAU school, but Nebraska no longer is an AAU school. So what is the big difference in having two instead of one.

OU and Kansas to the Big10 is not a slam dunk by any means. But to say there is absolutely no interest and never has been, does not appear to be correct.

they would have looked at OU because they were looking at Texas and Texas would have liked to stay with OU

they would not have looked at OU because they wanted OU without Texas

and when boren went on his "I am going to make OU look like a wallflower" tour everyone on earth knew that OU was talking to the PAC 12 and talking to the PAC 12 for OkState as well

OU was VERY vocal about that

OU came out of that looking stupid and the VAST majority of people still believe that OU was "denied" by the PAC 12 when the reality is the PAC 12 never voted on OU and OkState and the reason for that is because OU and OkState informed them that they were going to stay in the Big 12 after Texas was done looking around and decided to stay in the Big 12 and the PAC 12 actually voted to "table the discussion of expansion"

many people say that was tossing a bone to OU and OkState to not make them look bad, but it was still say it was a denial

Jon Wilner has written though that if Texas had decided to leave the Big 12 and OU and OkState were looking for a home that larry (another big mouth) scott could have convinced schools to add OU and OkState and some have suggested he had the authority to add them if needed already

there were "whispers" that OU and OkState talked to the SEC SEC SEC as well and boren tried to save face and say that "OU had options" besides just two

but the ONLY talk there ever was that I read about the Big 10 and OU was "not interested" and that was even WITH TEXAS
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RE: Bowlsby: Big 12 study shows title game improves playoff chances
(04-04-2016 06:47 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 05:41 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 04:17 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 01:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 10:05 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the Big 10 has never showed a bit of interest in OU I don't see why people think they would be a lock to get into the Big 10 if they wanted to

Some of the sports nation media....i.e. CBS sports etc., reported a couple of years ago that the Big10 had vetted five schools and OU and Kansas were two of the five.

exactly and they ended up adding Maryland and Rutgers instead

because they were not interested in OU

they could have had Missouri if they wanted which is at least the same academically as Rutgers and much better athletically and they went with Rutgers and MU is still in the AAU and MU touches the Big 10 states and Missouri has more population than Oklahoma as well

MU had everything the Big 10 would have looked for

OU does not.....never been in the AAU, not a research powerhouse, does not touch the big 10 states, smaller population and as of now an even bigger blabber mouth president of the university than MU

I have always felt the Big 10 blamed MU for letting the word get out to NU that the Big 10 was expanding and thus the word getting out to everyone and the Big 10 not being able to lock down UVA or others from the ACC before the ACC could act

and that is the reason that MU was frozen out of the Big 10 and the ability of NU to keep quiet won the Big 10 over

there is not a chance in hell that boren will shut up and the Big 10 is not going to deal with that and every time boren runs his mouth the Big 10 gets further and further away from the already LONG way off they are from considering OU

If they had no interest in OU, then why waste time and money vetting them?? You don't waste resources on schools you do not have any interest

Also, IIRC the vetting of OU and Kansas came after Maryland and Rutgers were admitted.

If OU and Kansas are admitted as a pair, then OU does touch the Big10 states.

As for being a smaller population state, that did not stop them from inviting Nebraska, so that argument does not hold water. OU like Nebraska is a brand name.

(As a side note on Missouri vs Nebraska, all the reports I read, said the Big wanted to invite only one team to get to 12, and they chose Nebraska over Missouri, because the Networks told them Nebraska was a much bigger TV draw. Evidently the Missouri President's mouth had nothing to do with it.)

You are correct OU is not an AAU school, but Nebraska no longer is an AAU school. So what is the big difference in having two instead of one.

OU and Kansas to the Big10 is not a slam dunk by any means. But to say there is absolutely no interest and never has been, does not appear to be correct.

they would have looked at OU because they were looking at Texas and Texas would have liked to stay with OU

they would not have looked at OU because they wanted OU without Texas

and when boren went on his "I am going to make OU look like a wallflower" tour everyone on earth knew that OU was talking to the PAC 12 and talking to the PAC 12 for OkState as well

OU was VERY vocal about that

OU came out of that looking stupid and the VAST majority of people still believe that OU was "denied" by the PAC 12 when the reality is the PAC 12 never voted on OU and OkState and the reason for that is because OU and OkState informed them that they were going to stay in the Big 12 after Texas was done looking around and decided to stay in the Big 12 and the PAC 12 actually voted to "table the discussion of expansion"

many people say that was tossing a bone to OU and OkState to not make them look bad, but it was still say it was a denial

Jon Wilner has written though that if Texas had decided to leave the Big 12 and OU and OkState were looking for a home that larry (another big mouth) scott could have convinced schools to add OU and OkState and some have suggested he had the authority to add them if needed already

there were "whispers" that OU and OkState talked to the SEC SEC SEC as well and boren tried to save face and say that "OU had options" besides just two

but the ONLY talk there ever was that I read about the Big 10 and OU was "not interested" and that was even WITH TEXAS

Well Todge I am usually in your corner, but not this time. I think it is pretty well documented that the Big has shown some interest in OU, without Texas. .

On the PAC deal, it is my understanding that Scott, the PAC Commissioner was in it with Boren all the way. They both appeared to believe that if OU and OSU went to the PAC Texas would have to string along. It is my understanding Scott thought he had been given complete authority on expansion and he had a deal with OU and OSU, but then 3 or 4 of the PAC Presidents pulled the rug on him and he and OU and OSU were left high and dry.

Boren said in a press conference that OU had an opportunity to go to the SEC and no doubt the SEC would like to have had OU. The Daily Oklahoman reported that the powers that be at OU wanted no part of the SEC culture. This has been discussed on this board many times and I do not care to rehash it, so I will leave it at that.

I doubt OU goes to the Big10 or anywhere for that matter in the near future. So it is probably all a moot point and I am ready to drop the discussion.
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