http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-...-82702054/

That case all around is extreme but in general, why are people spending so much jail time for [allegedly] abusing dogs? If some hypocrites care so much about dogs being abused, then they don't need to eat any conventionally farmed meat ever again, given the abuse it takes to make sure meat shows up at the supermarket en masse and without interruption, often times only for it to go to waste.

I know dog is man's best friend so to speak but come on, people are overreacting and excessively harsh over this issue.

One of the leading stories on the local news this morning was about an abused pit bull being rehabilitated. The news anchors where all "animal abuse is terrible, I hope they catch the creep who abused the dog" and everyone else on the desk nodding and tut-tuting...

That exchange followed their report on the bombing in Pakistan. No after report concern from the news desk on that one......

I remember this because it was such a striking dichotomy between the actions after the two stories.

(03-28-2016 01:46 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  One of the leading stories on the local news this morning was about an abused pit bull being rehabilitated. The news anchors where all "animal abuse is terrible, I hope they catch the creep who abused the dog" and everyone else on the desk nodding and tut-tuting...

That exchange followed their report on the bombing in Pakistan. No after report concern from the news desk on that one......

I remember this because it was such a striking dichotomy between the actions after the two stories.

I'm surprised the media even mentioned the Pakistan bombing. World news is so passe' nowadays.

Not sure how dog abuse, conventionally farmed meat, and Pakistan are so interrelated.

I think compassionate people view abusing pets, horses, livestock like they view abusing children, the elderly and the handicapped. Pets, children, the elderly and the handicapped are helpless and require care. And while compassionate people would unequivocally condemn all violence, the crimes of those who abuse those weaker groups are especially heinous because they are choosing to abuse those that can not defend themselves.

The killing of livestock raised for food has not part in the comparison because it is not abuse. Although compassionate people would advocate that the killing of livestock be done humanely and that the living conditions of livestock be humane.

People do some nasty things to animals. They should be punished. It's a crime.

agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

(03-28-2016 02:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

Abused cattle are stressed cattle. Stressed cattle weigh less, require more inputs, have poorer quality meat, produce less desirable offspring, and therefore bring less at market. The issue is not as widespread as some believe.

Intentionally abusing an animal (dog) that exhibits unconditional love and devotion is beyond cruel and deserves the harshest punishment possible.

(03-28-2016 03:33 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

Abused cattle are stressed cattle. Stressed cattle weigh less, require more inputs, have poorer quality meat, produce less desirable offspring, and therefore bring less at market. The issue is not as widespread as some believe.

Intentionally abusing an animal (dog) that exhibits unconditional love and devotion is beyond cruel and deserves the harshest punishment possible.

Death penalty?

(03-28-2016 03:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:33 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

Abused cattle are stressed cattle. Stressed cattle weigh less, require more inputs, have poorer quality meat, produce less desirable offspring, and therefore bring less at market. The issue is not as widespread as some believe.

Intentionally abusing an animal (dog) that exhibits unconditional love and devotion is beyond cruel and deserves the harshest punishment possible.

Death penalty?

Not the death penalty. I wouldn't mind them being publicly shamed, beaten, or some other means of 'abuse' in addition to community service and jail time in most cases.

(03-28-2016 03:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:33 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

Abused cattle are stressed cattle. Stressed cattle weigh less, require more inputs, have poorer quality meat, produce less desirable offspring, and therefore bring less at market. The issue is not as widespread as some believe.

Intentionally abusing an animal (dog) that exhibits unconditional love and devotion is beyond cruel and deserves the harshest punishment possible.

Death penalty?

Not the death penalty. I wouldn't mind them being publicly shamed, beaten, or some other means of 'abuse' in addition to community service and jail time in most cases.

Can't disagree with that.

(03-28-2016 02:20 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I think compassionate people view abusing pets, horses, livestock like they view abusing children, the elderly and the handicapped. Pets, children, the elderly and the handicapped are helpless and require care. And while compassionate people would unequivocally condemn all violence, the crimes of those who abuse those weaker groups are especially heinous because they are choosing to abuse those that can not defend themselves.

The killing of livestock raised for food has not part in the comparison because it is not abuse. Although compassionate people would advocate that the killing of livestock be done humanely and that the living conditions of livestock be humane.

This.
I'd also note I'm a softie when it comes to animals, and pets. Have a hard time watching the damn SPCA commercials when they show dogs and cats suffering.

If I'm not mistaken, abusing animals is a warning sign of possible mental health issues or just plain meanness of people that may evolve into harming people.

(03-28-2016 02:28 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People do some nasty things to animals. They should be punished. It's a crime.

Yes, couldn't agree more.

And addressing OP: I eat grass fed, free range, & wild caught (pole & line) meats. Hell, sometimes I fish myself. I am no hypocrite and fervently believe in my food getting on my plate in the best possible way.

When God gave humanity dominion over the animals, it was in order to care for, tend to, and use those animals to their fullest potential in a "just" manner.

I had to have our dawg of 10 years put down a couple of weeks ago. It was his third bout with cancer and he was bleeding to death internally. It has been hard on me and my daughter but it has been excruciating for my wife. She is home bound pretty much 24/7 and he was her constant loyal companion. Caring so much for dawgs is a natural thing and when we stop doing that we lose some of our humanity. When the wife is emotionally ready we will be welcoming in a new member to our family via one of the rescue groups.

(03-28-2016 02:07 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Not sure how dog abuse, conventionally farmed meat, and Pakistan are so interrelated.

The abuse that factory farmed animals go through is equal to any dog fighting abuse that's trumped up by the media. The difference is people are emotionally bound to their domesticated pets and are conditioned to think their food is grown on Ol' McDonald's Farm, so they don't even realize they should be outraged the way they are for dog food.

(03-28-2016 03:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Not the death penalty. I wouldn't mind them being publicly shamed, beaten, or some other means of 'abuse' in addition to community service and jail time in most cases.

Oh give me a break, I'm not advocating animal cruelty by any means but on the other hand my point in starting this thread is we need to take a glimpse in the mirror. People have gotten less for hurting humans. A woman (who lived not far from where I'm typing coincidentally) runs over her husband and suddenly the feminists types start excusing it because of emotional distress? That one is slightly odd but there are other examples.

I have always thought it strange that a segment of society seems to have more compassion for animals than they do people. I find it really disgusting what people do to animals, but am always far more disturbed at what people are willing to do to other people.

While it is a small percentage of people that engage in this stuff, they sure do paint a despicable picture of too many people.

Sounds like this guy had issues. I bet the Vet turned him in. I'll defer the court system on this.

(03-28-2016 03:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:33 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  agreeing with mptnstr, Dixie and others.

Abusing a 'pet' is just cruelty... What is the point of it? Raising an animal to be eaten is not. There IS a purpose.

I guess that's true to a point. A line could be crossed even there, depending on the treatment before they're slaughtered.

Abused cattle are stressed cattle. Stressed cattle weigh less, require more inputs, have poorer quality meat, produce less desirable offspring, and therefore bring less at market. The issue is not as widespread as some believe.

Intentionally abusing an animal (dog) that exhibits unconditional love and devotion is beyond cruel and deserves the harshest punishment possible.

Death penalty?

Not the death penalty. I wouldn't mind them being publicly shamed, beaten, or some other means of 'abuse' in addition to community service and jail time in most cases.

In addition to the punishment you list I'd add and banned from ever owning another pet.