(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 12:43 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  i had no idea nova was considered a rich kid school, i know 3 schools here have history with them

It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 12:43 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  i had no idea nova was considered a rich kid school, i know 3 schools here have history with them

It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

(03-27-2016 05:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Uconn, cinci, usf have a history with vilanova and I'm glad they made it to the final four for first time since 09.

Villanova is one of the main reasons you and Cincy are still looking for a conference.

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 05:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Uconn, cinci, usf have a history with vilanova and I'm glad they made it to the final four for first time since 09.

Villanova is one of the main reasons you and Cincy are still looking for a conference.

You're misguided. Stookey is not a UConn fan. He's a BC fan. One of the few left. And, perhaps because of the pathetic boredom associated with it, he gets a rise in his PJs by inciting Temple fans on the topic of Vanillanova.

what is so ******* pathetic here is Villanova doing well is a good thing for the AAC. Just like UConn 2 years ago was a good thing for the Big East. You see the enemy of the AAC isn't the Big East. It's the P5. Just the same with the Big East enemy isn't the AAC, it's the P5 as well......

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 12:43 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  i had no idea nova was considered a rich kid school, i know 3 schools here have history with them

It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I agree with both you of but a good word for Villanova is entitled or arrogant

(03-28-2016 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  what is so ******* pathetic here is Villanova doing well is a good thing for the AAC. Just like UConn 2 years ago was a good thing for the Big East. You see the enemy of the AAC isn't the Big East. It's the P5. Just the same with the Big East enemy isn't the AAC, it's the P5 as well......

Agreed. Over time I think that is how this will play out...the split is so fresh though.

We need a Final 4 with both Nova and UConn....hell throw in Gonzaga too...that will make the P5 squirm.

Kind of like the momentum of the UNC/CUSE Cheater Semifinal...getting lots of play, expect it to continue all week. And I highly doubt the broadcasters mention anything about their scandals on Sat night.

BTW, was wondering how the basketball game did last night up against The Walking Dead, among other things...and not being on CBS. Bet it was low rated.

(03-28-2016 02:45 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 12:43 PM)Stooky57 Wrote:  i had no idea nova was considered a rich kid school, i know 3 schools here have history with them

It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

It's not because they don't grant enough doctorates, but they will be on there in the near future. When they get on there, they'll be in the 33-37 range.

Let's not get into the rankings envy. It's not a good look.

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

Of course I could tell you're from a wealthy background. One must come from that type of background to take my comments as "wealth envy" when they are quite clearly the opposite. My experience with people who grew up wealthy is that they believe everything under the sun is wealth envy.

I will grant you that the days of Temple being the "people's university" are long over. That said, the issue here is not price but diversity and depth of academic experience. Students who choose Villanova make a choice for overspending, pretend elite status, and comfortable surroundings essentially the same as the prep schools that hatched them. They also are choosing against the depth of studies and research opportunities that expensive private schools like Carnegie Mellon, the University of Chicago, Boston University, Syracuse, etc. offer. And it goes without saying that they are choosing against diverse environments.

That said, Am I singling out Villanova for criticism when there are plenty of schools just like them? You bet. As a Temple alum, it's my birthright.

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:19 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  It's $63,000 a year and located in one of the wealthier areas of the Philly suburbs. Yeah.

Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I don't think it's the wealth that bothers us. It's the arrogance. The wealth-bashing is just low hanging fruit. We'll never be a favorite of the big donors, not even if we deny our own character and identity and play nice. We're Temple. We envy just about everyone. That's what keeps us getting better.

(03-28-2016 03:42 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:   Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

Of course I could tell you're from a wealthy background. One must come from that type of background to take my comments as "wealth envy" when they are quite clearly the opposite. My experience with people who grew up wealthy is that they believe everything under the sun is wealth envy.

I will grant you that the days of Temple being the "people's university" are long over. That said, the issue here is not price but diversity and depth of academic experience. Students who choose Villanova make a choice for overspending, pretend elite status, and comfortable surroundings essentially the same as the prep schools that hatched them. They also are choosing against the depth of studies and research opportunities that expensive private schools like Carnegie Mellon, the University of Chicago, Boston University, Syracuse, etc. offer. And it goes without saying that they are choosing against diverse environments.

That said, Am I singling out Villanova for criticism when there are plenty of schools just like them? You bet. As a Temple alum, it's my birthright.

Well said.

(03-28-2016 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  what is so ******* pathetic here is Villanova doing well is a good thing for the AAC. Just like UConn 2 years ago was a good thing for the Big East. You see the enemy of the AAC isn't the Big East. It's the P5. Just the same with the Big East enemy isn't the AAC, it's the P5 as well......

With all due respect Steve, this isn't about Villanova doing well helping the AAC, it's about Villanova and Temple and the history between the two schools and their fan bases.

Most fans on here know little if anything about that history.

(03-28-2016 03:51 PM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:   Is Nova ranked anywhere as a National university, like with US News?

Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I don't think it's the wealth that bothers us. It's the arrogance. The wealth-bashing is just low hanging fruit. We'll never be a favorite of the big donors, not even if we deny our own character and identity and play nice. We're Temple. We envy just about everyone. That's what keeps us getting better.

It is a low hanging fruit. Could Temple and Villanova be anymore different from each other even brand wise? Temple is a tough, gritty, large, diverse, urban research university and Villanova is a small, Catholic private school in the suburbs. They pick on us for being "ghetto" and dangerous and we pick on them for being upper class arrogant snobs. It's not true wealth envy it's just the differences between the two schools are low hanging fruit for both. Personally I could never, ever be in an environment like nova. Way too sterile for me, I love being in the city at Temple with the row houses, great food,endless options of things to do everyday, and rowdiness of Temple students on campus and at games. Maybe some would prefer Villanova but I hate it and many of their fans are too narrow minded to begin to understand why someone would prefer Temple.

(03-28-2016 04:11 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:51 PM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 02:53 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  Currently USNWR ranks them as the #1 northeast regional university. The undergraduate business school that Villanova is so proud of is ranked #62 nationally, the same ranking as Temples Fox School of Business.

I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I don't think it's the wealth that bothers us. It's the arrogance. The wealth-bashing is just low hanging fruit. We'll never be a favorite of the big donors, not even if we deny our own character and identity and play nice. We're Temple. We envy just about everyone. That's what keeps us getting better.

It is a low hanging fruit. Could Temple and Villanova be anymore different from each other even brand wise? Temple is a tough, gritty, large, diverse, urban research university and Villanova is a small, Catholic private school in the suburbs. They pick on us for being "ghetto" and dangerous and we pick on them for being upper class arrogant snobs. It's not true wealth envy it's just the differences between the two schools are low hanging fruit for both. Personally I could never, ever be in an environment like nova. Way too sterile for me, I love being in the city at Temple with the row houses, great food,endless options of things to do everyday, and rowdiness of Temple students on campus and at games. Maybe some would prefer of Villanova but I hate it and many of their fans ar too narrow minded to begin to understand why someone would prefer Temple.

I think this does a good job of putting things in perspective and the only think I would add is I don’t think many Temple people envy anyone, we’re proud of what we’ve worked so hard to achieve as individuals and as a university.

(03-28-2016 04:21 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 04:11 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:51 PM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I don't think it's the wealth that bothers us. It's the arrogance. The wealth-bashing is just low hanging fruit. We'll never be a favorite of the big donors, not even if we deny our own character and identity and play nice. We're Temple. We envy just about everyone. That's what keeps us getting better.

It is a low hanging fruit. Could Temple and Villanova be anymore different from each other even brand wise? Temple is a tough, gritty, large, diverse, urban research university and Villanova is a small, Catholic private school in the suburbs. They pick on us for being "ghetto" and dangerous and we pick on them for being upper class arrogant snobs. It's not true wealth envy it's just the differences between the two schools are low hanging fruit for both. Personally I could never, ever be in an environment like nova. Way too sterile for me, I love being in the city at Temple with the row houses, great food,endless options of things to do everyday, and rowdiness of Temple students on campus and at games. Maybe some would prefer of Villanova but I hate it and many of their fans ar too narrow minded to begin to understand why someone would prefer Temple.

I think this does a good job of putting things in perspective and the only think I would add is I don’t think many Temple people envy anyone, we’re proud of what we’ve worked so hard to achieve as individuals and as a university.

Completely agree. Every single person I know at Temple is extremely proud of where they're from and what their school is about.

$64,000 for a regional university?

(03-28-2016 03:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  what is so ******* pathetic here is Villanova doing well is a good thing for the AAC. Just like UConn 2 years ago was a good thing for the Big East. You see the enemy of the AAC isn't the Big East. It's the P5. Just the same with the Big East enemy isn't the AAC, it's the P5 as well......

I agree with this.

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I miss being in a conf with Nova.

(03-28-2016 04:21 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 04:11 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:51 PM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 03:09 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  I thought we weren't supposed to mention the high price of attending Villanova? Something about it not being a "good look" for Temple, or creating "jealousy", or something like that.

Can we now just admit that it's an overpriced finishing school for brats who couldn't get into an Ivy like Penn or Cornell? And that it's whiter than driven snow?

In any case, I truly doubt Nova will end up being ranked so high when they become a "national university". Sure, admissions are competitive. But the change in evaluation criteria will expose their weak or nonexistent graduate schools and paltry research spending. It's not a true comprehensive private university like Penn, Carnegie Mellon or Lehigh.

Sorry, but the wealth envy comments from Temple people are embarrassing. There are plenty of wealthy people who either go to Temple or went to Temple, myself included. Even if it's factual that I couldn't get into an Ivy, I wouldn't appreciate you making that comment. The jealousy and attitude towards Nova people for coming from money are a bad look, especially since we're counting on wealthy alums to donate towards our stadium and other projects.

I don't think it's the wealth that bothers us. It's the arrogance. The wealth-bashing is just low hanging fruit. We'll never be a favorite of the big donors, not even if we deny our own character and identity and play nice. We're Temple. We envy just about everyone. That's what keeps us getting better.

It is a low hanging fruit. Could Temple and Villanova be anymore different from each other even brand wise? Temple is a tough, gritty, large, diverse, urban research university and Villanova is a small, Catholic private school in the suburbs. They pick on us for being "ghetto" and dangerous and we pick on them for being upper class arrogant snobs. It's not true wealth envy it's just the differences between the two schools are low hanging fruit for both. Personally I could never, ever be in an environment like nova. Way too sterile for me, I love being in the city at Temple with the row houses, great food,endless options of things to do everyday, and rowdiness of Temple students on campus and at games. Maybe some would prefer of Villanova but I hate it and many of their fans ar too narrow minded to begin to understand why someone would prefer Temple.

I think this does a good job of putting things in perspective and the only think I would add is I don’t think many Temple people envy anyone, we’re proud of what we’ve worked so hard to achieve as individuals and as a university.

AMEN BROTHER Temple Made Temple Proud