Kaplony
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FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
http://nypost.com/2016/03/20/fdnys-new-e...efighting/
Quote:FDNY candidates will take an entry exam that quizzes them on topics like African killer bees and on math questions such as comparing veggie chips to pretzels, but little on firefighting.
With the city planning to give the first FDNY entry exam in five years in 2017, critics say the test has been dumbed down since a judge ruled a former exam discriminated against minorities.
A recently posted preparation manual asks aspiring Bravest to practice by watching videos produced by Lowe’s hardware store on how to install a toilet, replace a sink, and lay a tile floor.
“It’s great to prepare firemen for their second jobs as plumbers,” an insider quipped. “The FDNY might as well call this the ‘Side Job Preparation Guide.’ ”
Quote:The test is apparently meant to level the playing field so those more familiar with firefighting don’t have an advantage.
“I think what they’re trying to accomplish is to measure a candidate’s ability to comprehend information and instructions,” an FDNY official said.
In contrast, the NYPD’s sample entry test questions all involve crime-fighting and patrol-related scenarios.
In January 2010, Brooklyn federal Judge Nicholas Giraufis ruled the FDNY exams first given in 1999 and 2002 discriminated against black applicants and halted their use. The city later agreed to pay $98 million in back pay to those minorities passed over, and give some a second chance to join the department.
Quote:Sample questions from a test preparation manual:
Reading-comprehension question on a 1998 Tampa Tribune article, “Natural Born Killers.”
Scientists hope to stop killer bees by:
a. using poison
b. controlling breeding
c. removing their stingers
d. importing bees from Africa
Math: Study and compare nutritional labels on four snacks.
FF Johnson was thinking about the Mini Rice Cakes on his way to work and had 36 Mini Cakes as soon as he got to the Firehouse. How many total Calories did he consume?
a. 140
b. 240
c. 280
d. 210
Comprehension question on Lowe’s hardware video instruction in “Replacing and installing a toilet.”
What are most toilets made of?
a. Glass
b. Clay
c. Ceramic
d. Marble
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 12:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote: What are most toilets made of?
a. Glass
b. Clay
c. Ceramic
d. Marble
Marble, duh.
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
the media is shite.....the media is the 'why'
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Of course it's true. And stop calling me Shirley.
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Kaplony
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Good Lord!
Justice Thomas warned of this.
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
Yes, but it isn't because of their race.
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Fitbud
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 01:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
Yes, but it isn't because of their race.
Then what is it?
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Don't know if it's real, but it would not be surprising. I posted an article a while back about the ridiculous new Air Traffic Controller test the FAA is using to try and increase minority passing rates.
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Kaplony
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
About firefighting? Dunno....you would have to ask the people who lowered the standards and made the exam easier in order to get a higher number of minority candidates to qualify.
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Re: RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 07:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
About firefighting? Dunno....you would have to ask the people who lowered the standards and made the exam easier in order to get a higher number of minority candidates to qualify.
You haven't posted any evidence that this is why they changed the standard.
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RE: FDNY’s new entry exam asks about everything but firefighting
(03-22-2016 08:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 07:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (03-22-2016 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (03-22-2016 12:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Surely this can't be true. It's almost too ridiculous.
Sadly it's very true. Because minorities weren't passing the previous test, which was job related, they created this dumbed-down non-job related test. As always with affirmative action programs it's not about putting qualified people in jobs it's simply about filling a quota.
Because minorities weren't passing ? Really? Why was that happening? Are minorities somehow less intelligent?
About firefighting? Dunno....you would have to ask the people who lowered the standards and made the exam easier in order to get a higher number of minority candidates to qualify.
You haven't posted any evidence that this is why they changed the standard.
you post nothing worthy.....and??? you just like being a whoopin' boy???
have fun with that....
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