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RE: NY Times: Nationwide NBE May Be The Only Hope
(04-12-2016 01:02 PM)YNot Wrote:  NBE

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, *UConn*, St. John's, Seton Hall
EAST DIVISION: Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, *Cincinnati*
MIDWEST DIVISION: Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*

18-game conference schedule. 6 games (H-H) against the 3 schools in your division; 12 games against the rest of the conference (1 game per year, rotating home-away).

To limit travel costs and concerns, structure schedules so that there are only THREE 2-game road trips outside of your division. So, current Big East schools only have one 2-game West Coast road trip per season.

Division winners get automatic bye to BE tournament quarterfinals.

UConn, Cincinnati, San Diego St., and BYU = independent in football, but with some collaboration for media deals, late-season scheduling and bowl affiliations.

OR, same structure, but add VCU and Dayton instead of UConn and Cincinnati:

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova
EAST DIVISION: Georgetown, Xavier, *VCU*, *Dayton*
MIDWEST DIVISION: Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*
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RE: NY Times: Nationwide NBE May Be The Only Hope
(04-12-2016 01:02 PM)YNot Wrote:  NBE

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, *UConn*, St. John's, Seton Hall
EAST DIVISION: Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, *Cincinnati*
MIDWEST DIVISION: Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*

18-game conference schedule. 6 games (H-H) against the 3 schools in your division; 12 games against the rest of the conference (1 game per year, rotating home-away).

To limit travel costs and concerns, structure schedules so that there are only THREE 2-game road trips outside of your division. So, current Big East schools only have one 2-game West Coast road trip per season.

Division winners get automatic bye to BE tournament quarterfinals.

UConn, Cincinnati, San Diego St., and BYU = independent in football, but with some collaboration for media deals, late-season scheduling and bowl affiliations.

OR, add VCU and Dayton AND UConn and Cincinnati, along with Wichita St. and one additional WEST school:

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown
EAST DIVISION: Xavier, *Cincinnati*, *UConn*, *VCU*, *Dayton*
MIDWEST DIVISION: Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, *Wichita St.*
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*, *San Fran/Santa Clara/Pepperdine*

Schedule includes 8 games (H-H) within your division, 5 games against your "neighboring" division (NORTH v. EAST and MIDWEST v. WEST) and then 5 games against the other 10 schools (so you play everyone in the other two divisions every *other* year).

This model, however, probably loses because of opposition by Depaul, Marquette, and Butler, and would be harder to justify the $4 million per school from FOX.

Or, perhaps keep Depaul, Marquette, Butler, and Creighton in the EAST division with Xavier. This doesn't make as much sense geographically, but it ensures that the legacy Big East teams play each other annually.

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown
EAST DIVISION: Xavier, Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton
MIDWEST DIVISION: *UConn*, *Cincinnati*, *VCU*, *Dayton*, *Wichita St.*
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*, *San Fran/Santa Clara/Pepperdine*
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RE: NY Times: Nationwide NBE May Be The Only Hope
With Villanova (and the Big East) winning an NCAA Championship, the need and desire to expand is even lower than it was at the start of the season - and it wasn't very high to begin with. In each year of the new Big East, the league has gotten more competitive, more exposure and increased national respect among the other power conferences. The schools have invested in facilities (DePaul and Marquette are getting new stadiums, Providence is getting a new practice facility), and the teams are recruiting extremely well - kids love the idea of playing a "basketball-first" conference. The Big East is now firmly considered a power conference, and the league can continue to focus on further developing the rivalries of the 10-member league. The double round-robin is a true asset to the conference - and it will only continue to build the brand in following years.

The league has zero incentive to expand, mostly because there are too little perfect fits available to the league at the moment, and will not seriously consider expansion until the next contract comes up - which won't be for another 5 years or so. Until then, the Big East can enjoy the ride. It's been an absolute joy thus far.
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RE: NY Times: Nationwide NBE May Be The Only Hope
(04-12-2016 01:02 PM)YNot Wrote:  NBE

NORTH DIVISION: Providence, *UConn*, St. John's, Seton Hall
EAST DIVISION: Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, *Cincinnati*
MIDWEST DIVISION: Depaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton
WEST DIVISION: *Gonzaga*, *BYU*, *St. Mary's*, *San Diego St.*

18-game conference schedule. 6 games (H-H) against the 3 schools in your division; 12 games against the rest of the conference (1 game per year, rotating home-away).

To limit travel costs and concerns, structure schedules so that there are only THREE 2-game road trips outside of your division. So, current Big East schools only have one 2-game West Coast road trip per season.

Division winners get automatic bye to BE tournament quarterfinals.

UConn, Cincinnati, San Diego St., and BYU = independent in football, but with some collaboration for media deals, late-season scheduling and bowl affiliations.
I'm not gonna say this is a pipe dream, but I will say this is a very long shot.

The B12 drama is whats making this feasible. Add to that the cord cutting revenue loss projections and all conferences could be in for a major shake up. The BE has the brand that will draw eyes weather its on cable tv or internet streams.
As of right now the NBE can have any non-football school it wants.

I will go a little farther then what has been suggested and give a wink to Notre Dame and Boston College as part of a Big East 4.0 - If the B12 dissolves and only 4 all new Super conferences that follow a NFL scheduling model, The ACC has teams that will be coveted and teams that are left behind. I see all pubic university's getting preferential spots over sub par teams like Boston College. Notre Dame would be perfectly at home with indy football and parked sports in other conferences.

NBE (less likely but possible)
Providence | Boston | UCONN | St. Johns | VCU
Creighton | Notre Dame | DePaul | Marquette | Butler
Villanova | Georgetown | Xavier | Seton Hall | Temple

because the old format of content is not the idea of future, but quality over quantity is, you don't need the West Coast counterpart.
Teams to also consider are : Memphis | Cincinnati | Wichita St. | and any other A10
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