(03-21-2016 04:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 10:59 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 10:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 10:20 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That group has between 60 and 200 members.

so they must be wrong...

It's an ideological organization, not a professional one as their name is intended to suggest.

so they must be wrong...

hint: what I am not seeing anywhere is anyone refuting their position with facts.

And they aren't a "joke" organization. They just aren't so broad based as you might assume from their name.

(03-21-2016 11:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:19 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:18 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Have they formed an opinion?

On the organizations? Yes. One is a joke and the other is not.

No, on sex changes for kids.

Oh, I'm against it. I personally feel it is child abuse. It's parents pushing it on their kids or feeding phases.

Obviously and it causes suicide. I just wonder where that "legitimate" organization falls on that.

(03-21-2016 04:25 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:06 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'm not commenting on wether or not I agree with them, simply that this is a joke organization and shouldn't appeal to anybody's sense of authority.

except they did not approach it from an appeal to authority stance, they merely presented facts.

The article did.

(03-21-2016 04:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:25 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:06 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'm not commenting on wether or not I agree with them, simply that this is a joke organization and shouldn't appeal to anybody's sense of authority.

except they did not approach it from an appeal to authority stance, they merely presented facts.

The article did.

Not the groups fault..

http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks...s-children

They used science and while their size or focus might invalidate them in a lot of eyes I thought better of you..

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.5

6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence. Cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke and cancer.7,8,9,10

7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.11 What compassionate and reasonable person would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?

(03-21-2016 04:38 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 04:25 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:06 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'm not commenting on wether or not I agree with them, simply that this is a joke organization and shouldn't appeal to anybody's sense of authority.

except they did not approach it from an appeal to authority stance, they merely presented facts.

The article did.

Not the groups fault..

http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks...s-children

They used science and while their size or focus might invalidate them in a lot of eyes I thought better of you..

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.5

6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence. Cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke and cancer.7,8,9,10

7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.11 What compassionate and reasonable person would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?

I'm just so crushed!


It's still a joke organization with a joke name intended to appeal to authority.

As for the rest of your comment...

K

I recently saw that there is a suicide hot line dedicated to transgenders. I think that is a good idea since I believe it is important that the transgenders get accurate how-to information.

Link

If the other, bigger group agrees with the little itty bitty group, great. If not, I know which group is legitimate and which isn't.

(03-21-2016 06:52 PM)Paul M Wrote:  If the other, bigger group agrees with the little itty bitty group, great. If not, I know which group is legitimate and which isn't.

Yep

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