Saw this article today. I didn't know Kasich was 'cool' on religious freedom per the link below.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...em-159524/

Quote:"I think frankly, our churches should not be forced to do anything that's not consistent with them. But if you're a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake. Let's not have a big lawsuit or argument over all this stuff — move on. The next thing, you know, they might be saying, if you're divorced you shouldn't get a cupcake," Kasich said at the Feb. 13 debate.
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Their interpretation of his remarks

Quote:The notion that religious liberty is confined to churches, that one should leave their religion behind when they enter the marketplace, is also the basis for the narrow religious freedom exemption in Obama's birth control mandate. Houses of worship are exempt but everyone else must go along, regardless of how offensive abortifacients are to your religious sensibilities, Obama argued. The Supreme Court disagreed.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...XSZyIfR.99
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I can't see the religious right getting behind Kasich based on what I read in this article. Maybe the writer is out of touch, but it seems to be a point reinforced when looking at who Kasich has voting for him. Trump and Cruz are locking up the evangelical vote between them. Kasich seems to be doing quite poorly in the bible belt.

The pros and cons of public accommodation law aside, what's interesting about this disconnect is that Kasich is actually pretty devout. He just doesn't make his faith a central element of his candidacy. Frankly, he never had a chance with evangelicals.

Establishment policies are not what you would call pro-religious. At best, pro-religious policies are nothing but a bargaining chip for them.

(03-21-2016 09:07 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Saw this article today. I didn't know Kasich was 'cool' on religious freedom per the link below.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...em-159524/

Quote:"I think frankly, our churches should not be forced to do anything that's not consistent with them. But if you're a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake. Let's not have a big lawsuit or argument over all this stuff — move on. The next thing, you know, they might be saying, if you're divorced you shouldn't get a cupcake," Kasich said at the Feb. 13 debate.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...XSZyIfR.99
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...qaf5O1W.99
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...VH8ytSA.99

Their interpretation of his remarks

Quote:The notion that religious liberty is confined to churches, that one should leave their religion behind when they enter the marketplace, is also the basis for the narrow religious freedom exemption in Obama's birth control mandate. Houses of worship are exempt but everyone else must go along, regardless of how offensive abortifacients are to your religious sensibilities, Obama argued. The Supreme Court disagreed.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...XSZyIfR.99
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...qaf5O1W.99
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/john-k...VH8ytSA.99

I can't see the religious right getting behind Kasich based on what I read in this article. Maybe the writer is out of touch, but it seems to be a point reinforced when looking at who Kasich has voting for him. Trump and Cruz are locking up the evangelical vote between them. Kasich seems to be doing quite poorly in the bible belt.

Well he doesn't even understand the point. He sounds like a Democrat talking and trivializes the issue. Its not about servicing gay people. Its about servicing events you have a religious problem with such as a gay wedding. You can disagree about being able to exclude servicing gay weddings, but its disrespectful to not even acknowledge the issue.

Kasich took some serious sh*t about the comment he made about businesses being forced to handle gay weddings. He said something like "whats next, businesses not wanting to handle divorced people".

Well, he backtracked way off that statement a week later. Most people probably dont know this because, well, noone has paid attention to Kasich at all. But he clearly got an earful at some of his rally's from the dozens of people in attendance. Because it was a clear about face on what he had just said in a debate.

Which just goes to show how out of touch the guy is.

I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

I think the poor economy plays a role. They are buying into the mercantilism, which you can argue for on a 4th grade level, but it takes a college educated knowledge to understand why it always has and always will fail.

(03-21-2016 11:34 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

I think the poor economy plays a role. They are buying into the mercantilism, which you can argue for on a 4th grade level, but it takes a college educated knowledge to understand why it always has and always will fail.

I have not heard Trump ever propose that we approach trade in a mercantilist fashion. His points come across to me as enforcing our existing trade laws to enforce fair trade. China is commonly on the receiving end of Trump's rhetoric because he's 100% correct on Chinese actions wrt trade. They DO peg the Yuan to the dollar to maintain a favorable currency position against the U.S. and they DO limit the amount of capital that U.S. companies can spend to buy Chinese assets (insisting in joint ventures for everything where a Chinese company must be a partner) and they DO limit U.S. imports via surcharges/taxes.

(03-21-2016 11:34 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

I think the poor economy plays a role. They are buying into the mercantilism, which you can argue for on a 4th grade level, but it takes a college educated knowledge to understand why it always has and always will fail.

(03-21-2016 01:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:34 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

I think the poor economy plays a role. They are buying into the mercantilism, which you can argue for on a 4th grade level, but it takes a college educated knowledge to understand why it always has and always will fail.

In a nutshell...

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

It is because Trump has showed a willingness to fight for our rights. Christians are constantly riducled in the media and social media. So is Trump. Is Trump genuine? Hard to tell, but for many Christians, he has displayed sympathy to our cause.

(03-21-2016 01:22 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:31 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I have been wondering how devout Christians are justifying their support for Donald Trump. It is puzzling to me that they would support someone with as much baggage as him.

It is because Trump has showed a willingness to fight for our rights. Christians are constantly riducled in the media and social media. So is Trump. Is Trump genuine? Hard to tell, but for many Christians, he has displayed sympathy to our cause.

Thats it in a nutshell.

Kasich - believes in religious liberties, but if some hard-ass asks a business owner to bake a cake with two penises on it and they decline, Kasich gives in and says "we should do it so we can all get along, and then fines the business owner a few hundred thousand for being intolerant.

Trump - believes in religious liberties, and if some hard-ass asks a business owner to bake a cake with two penises on it and they decline, Trump will take the cake, shove it down the hard-asses throat (penises and all), then have the hard-asses house foreclosed upon and will then go and bankrupt his flaming lovers hair boutique.

Which is why Trump is winning big.