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This cant be... Fit has told me that Black leaders have never encouraged others to hurt the police or white people..
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(03-20-2016 09:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  This cant be... Fit has told me that Black leaders have never encouraged others to hurt the police or white people..

It goes all the way back to 1992 when Al Sharpton spoke at Kean College and preached

"I don't believe in marching, I believe in offing the pigs."

This is the same Al Sharpton that Obama has embraced and had at the White House over 60 times. You want proof, here it is...



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(03-20-2016 09:46 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(03-20-2016 09:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  This cant be... Fit has told me that Black leaders have never encouraged others to hurt the police or white people..

It goes all the way back to 1992 when Al Sharpton spoke at Kean College and preached

"I don't believe in marching, I believe in offing the pigs."

This is the same Al Sharpton that Obama has embraced and had at the White House over 60 times. You want proof, here it is...




Obama also had some of the BLM losers over at the WH. You know gave them a pep talk, keep up the good work.
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You can spin this however you want. All I know is that this isn't happening at any of the other candidate's rallies and it didn't happen at Romney or McCain's before him.
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I like how posts are now selectively being deleted.....yummy
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Except it's not just liberals calling Trump out. I guess that creep missed this Op Ed by a former Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 official in yesterday's New York Times --

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opi...ost.com/us

“I THINK you’d have riots.” So said Donald J. Trump last week, when he was asked by CNN what he thought would happen if he arrived at the Republican Convention this summer a few delegates short of the 1,237 needed to win outright and didn’t set forth from Cleveland as the party’s nominee.

It is stunning to contemplate, particularly for those of us who are lifelong Republicans, but we now live in a time when the organizing principle that runs through the campaign of the Republican Party’s likely nominee isn’t adherence to a political philosophy — Mr. Trump has no discernible political philosophy — but an encouragement to political violence.

Mr. Trump’s supporters will dismiss this as hyperbole, but it is the only reasonable conclusion that his vivid, undisguised words allow for. As the examples pile up, we should not become inured to them. “I’d like to punch him in the face,” Mr. Trump said about a protester in Nevada. (“In the old days,” Mr. Trump fondly recalled, protesters would be “carried out in a stretcher.”)

Of another protester, Mr. Trump said, “Maybe he should have been roughed up.” In St. Louis, Mr. Trump sounded almost wistful: “Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore.” About protesters in general, he said: “There used to be consequences. There are none anymore. These people are so bad for our country. You have no idea folks, you have no idea.”

Talk like this eventually finds its way into action. And so on March 10, a Trump supporter named John McGraw, was charged with assault, battery and disorderly conduct, after a protester was sucker-punched as he was being hauled by security guards out of a Trump rally in North Carolina the day before. When interviewed afterward Mr. McGraw said, “The next time we see him, we might have to kill him.”


And Donald Trump’s reaction? He said he was considering paying Mr. McGraw’s legal fees. “He obviously loves his country,” Mr. Trump added, “and maybe he doesn’t like seeing what’s happening to the country.”

Welcome to Donald Trump’s America.

Mr. Trump’s comments, startling in a leading presidential candidate, have raised widespread concern about the path we find ourselves on. But concern about political violence, mob rule and unchecked passion is hardly new in American history.

In 1838, as a 28-year-old state legislator, Abraham Lincoln delivered an address at the Young Men’s Lyceum of Springfield, Ill. The speech was given in the aftermath of the lynching of a mixed-race boatman and the killing of an abolitionist newspaper editor. Lincoln warned that a “mobocratic spirit” and “wild and furious passions” posed a threat to republican institutions. He also alerted people to the danger of individuals — “an Alexander, a Caesar or a Napoleon?” — who, in their search for glory and power, might pose a threat to American self-government.

“Is it unreasonable, then, to expect that some man possessed of the loftiest genius, coupled with ambition sufficient to push it to its utmost stretch, will at some time spring up among us?” Lincoln asked.

The antidote to this threat, Lincoln argued, was to cultivate a “political religion” that emphasized “reverence for the laws.” Passion was our enemy, he warned; it had to be contained. “Reason — cold, calculating, unimpassioned reason — must furnish all the materials for our future support and defense.”

Lincoln was a keen student and great interpreter of the founders, and of course the founders also thought deeply about how a self-governing people could restrain political passions. In his book “Madison’s Metronome,” the scholar Greg Weiner points out that James Madison’s lifelong concern was that majorities would be governed by emotion rather than reason, the “cool” faculty. In Mr. Weiner’s words, Madison “portrayed passion through metaphors that suggested rapid and uncontrolled spread, including those of fires, fevers, pestilence and contagions.”

Before the Constitutional Convention, Madison undertook an extraordinarily thorough study of various forms of government. How might the Constitution protect us from what Aristotle called “the insolence of demagogues”?

Among the defects of ancient and modern republics, Madison wrote, were “popular assemblages, so quickly formed, so susceptible of contagious passions, so exposed to the misguidance of eloquent and ambitious leaders, and so apt to be tempted by the facility of forming interested majorities, into measures unjust and oppressive to the minor parties.”

Which brings us back to Donald Trump. No one would mistake Mr. Trump for eloquent, but he is a highly effective communicator in a political culture that is now almost indistinguishable from the reality TV culture from which he emerged. But the Trump phenomenon isn’t just about coarsening and stupidity: His political practices are precisely what the founders feared and Lincoln warned against.

When he was asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper about the sucker-punching episode, Mr. Trump responded by saying, “People come with tremendous passion and love for this country, and when they see protest — in some cases — you know, you’re mentioning one case, which I haven’t seen, I heard about it, which I don’t like. But when they see what’s going on in this country, they have anger that’s unbelievable. They have anger. They love this country.” In many respects, he added, “it’s a beautiful thing.”

This is an increasingly familiar refrain. When two brothers beat up a homeless Latino man last summer and cited Mr. Trump’s words as their justification — “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” one of the men reportedly told the police — Mr. Trump responded by saying that while this was a shame, “I will say that people who are following me are very passionate.” His supporters, he said, “love this country and they want this country to be great again — they are passionate.”

Note Mr. Trump’s linkage of violence, passion, anger and love of country. After the sucker-punch, Mr. Trump, while himself protesting that he doesn’t condone violence, initially indicated that he might subsidize it. He said that he hoped that he hadn’t done anything to create a tone where violence was encouraged, even though he does just that. Last week, his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, was accused of manhandling a reporter and then sought to discredit her on Twitter and elsewhere. Mr. Trump went out of his way to praise Mr. Lewandowski during his victory speech in Florida.


For Mr. Trump, this is all of a piece. His entire campaign, from its very first moments, has been built on stoking anger, grievances and resentment against people of other races, religions and nationalities. Mexicans coming to America are rapists and drug dealers. Muslims hate America and need to be barred from it. Syrian refugees are “Trojan horses.”

Not surprisingly, Mr. Trump’s politics of hate is now metastasizing into violence. He incites people — not all people to be sure, but enough. On social media in particular, one sees how he gives his supporters permission to express dark and ugly sentiments that existed before but were generally kept hidden from view.

Max Boot, a Republican Trump critic who was a foreign policy adviser to Marco Rubio’s campaign, says that he has never experienced as much anti-Semitism as he has since the start of the Trump campaign. There are no filters anymore, no restraints, no cultural guardrails. Now, under the sway of Trumpism, what was once considered shameful asserts itself openly. As we contemplate this, it is worth recalling that the membrane separating what the Scottish novelist John Buchan called “the graces of civilization” from ”the rawness of barbarism” is thinner and more fragile than we sometimes imagine.

The reasons for the rise of Mr. Trump are undoubtedly complicated and will be studied for decades to come. That Mr. Trump’s rise has occurred in the Republican Party is painful for those of us who are Republicans. That more and more Republicans are making their own accommodation with or offering outright support for Mr. Trump — governors like Chris Christie and Rick Scott, the former candidate Ben Carson and the former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich — makes things even worse. Because we can no longer deny what Mr. Trump is and what he represents. The prospect of turning the party apparatus over to such a person is sickening.

The founders, knowing history and human nature, took great care to devise a system that would prevent demagogues and those with authoritarian tendencies from rising up in America. That system has been extraordinarily successful. We have never before faced the prospect of a political strongman becoming president.

Until now.

Correction: March 21, 2016
An earlier version of this article misstated the circumstances surrounding the death of the abolitionist newspaper editor whom Abraham Lincoln had in mind when he made his speech to the Young Men’s Lyceum of Springfield, Ill. in 1838; the editor, Elijah Parish Lovejoy, was white, not black, and he was shot to death, not burnt to death.

Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, served in the last three Republican administrations and is a contributing opinion writer.
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Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.
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The views from the Ivory Towers of Washington politics are apparently obstructed.

The same people who went and whose children went to Iraq and Afghanistan don't consider this type of thing violence. They know what actual violence is. They want the borders closed to criminals so that real violence does not come here.

They want jobs for their kids so their kids don't have to join the service out of high school. A lot of these jobs are taken by people working for cash at sub-par wages. People who don't pay taxes and don't play by the rules. They want the borders closed to illegal workers so those jobs are available to their children.

This isn't rocket science. If these people were actually violent, you'd see 20 million gun-toting angry men in the streets. That isn't happening. But when people start trying to disrupt their business, they end it. The left is so unaccustomed to having people actually push back that all they can do is scream racism. Well, scream away.

As long as you push these people, they will push back. Push long and hard enough, and you might see something more than just reactions. Right now all we've seen is simple reactions to hostility. We haven't seen any real violence of aggression. Hopefully it will stay that way. These people are the same people who conquered this country and won two world wars. Don't start a war with them. You will lose.
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(03-21-2016 12:32 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  You can spin this however you want. All I know is that this isn't happening at any of the other candidate's rallies and it didn't happen at Romney or McCain's before him.

I don't understand why you feel this way....



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(03-21-2016 08:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  The views from the Ivory Towers of Washington politics are apparently obstructed.

The same people who went and whose children went to Iraq and Afghanistan don't consider this type of thing violence. They know what actual violence is. They want the borders closed to criminals so that real violence does not come here.

They want jobs for their kids so their kids don't have to join the service out of high school. A lot of these jobs are taken by people working for cash at sub-par wages. People who don't pay taxes and don't play by the rules. They want the borders closed to illegal workers so those jobs are available to their children.

This isn't rocket science. If these people were actually violent, you'd see 20 million gun-toting angry men in the streets. That isn't happening. But when people start trying to disrupt their business, they end it. The left is so unaccustomed to having people actually push back that all they can do is scream racism. Well, scream away.

As long as you push these people, they will push back. Push long and hard enough, and you might see something more than just reactions. Right now all we've seen is simple reactions to hostility. We haven't seen any real violence of aggression. Hopefully it will stay that way. These people are the same people who conquered this country and won two world wars. Don't start a war with them. You will lose.

04-bow04-bow04-bow

they have no clue what the potential involves....

"mayhem" is a kind term....

I had one walk up to my truck yesterday with a hand on the trigger.....had to make a sunglasses drop so he could see my eyes....was his op to walk away...and he did....was a smart lil' boy....

when you play in the field, shite like that happens.....
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(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao
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(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao

I stopped looking for any consistency from the liberal haters a long time ago. It is what it is. There are folks on both sides who blame the other, no matter what or no matter how ignorant it makes them look.
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(03-21-2016 08:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  The views from the Ivory Towers of Washington politics are apparently obstructed.

The same people who went and whose children went to Iraq and Afghanistan don't consider this type of thing violence. They know what actual violence is. They want the borders closed to criminals so that real violence does not come here.

They want jobs for their kids so their kids don't have to join the service out of high school. A lot of these jobs are taken by people working for cash at sub-par wages. People who don't pay taxes and don't play by the rules. They want the borders closed to illegal workers so those jobs are available to their children.

This isn't rocket science. If these people were actually violent, you'd see 20 million gun-toting angry men in the streets. That isn't happening. But when people start trying to disrupt their business, they end it. The left is so unaccustomed to having people actually push back that all they can do is scream racism. Well, scream away.

As long as you push these people, they will push back. Push long and hard enough, and you might see something more than just reactions. Right now all we've seen is simple reactions to hostility. We haven't seen any real violence of aggression. Hopefully it will stay that way. These people are the same people who conquered this country and won two world wars. Don't start a war with them. You will lose.

A good number of the dudes I knew in the Army were black and Hispanic. Do they fit into your narrative? I sure as hell hope so.
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(03-22-2016 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao

They are very brave when they are safe from proper retribution... Look at the morons who blocked a highway and cried like babies when pushed aside.
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(03-22-2016 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao

I stopped looking for any consistency from the liberal haters a long time ago. It is what it is. There are folks on both sides who blame the other, no matter what or no matter how ignorant it makes them look.

Please tell us about the last right-wing, conservative driven, violent protest, rioting or looting of other peoples schit. And no, 8 cowpokes in an empty log cabin don't count.

Thanks. 07-coffee3
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(03-22-2016 03:38 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao

I stopped looking for any consistency from the liberal haters a long time ago. It is what it is. There are folks on both sides who blame the other, no matter what or no matter how ignorant it makes them look.

Please tell us about the last right-wing, conservative driven, violent protest, rioting or looting of other peoples schit. And no, 8 cowpokes in an empty log cabin don't count.

Thanks. 07-coffee3

If that isn't a preemptive strike, I don't know what is. 03-lmfao
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(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.
They really do destroy everything they touch. Exactly like locusts.

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(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao
Neither act takes courage.

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(03-22-2016 03:38 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:59 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  
(03-22-2016 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(03-21-2016 07:53 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Libs burn everything. They loot. They riot. They **** in the streets.

Takes something happening at Republican rallys for em to say anything.

Funny how libs are supposedly cowards who are afraid to fight terrorism etc. etc. but suddenly it's them that are doing all the rioting and looting. 03-lmfao

I stopped looking for any consistency from the liberal haters a long time ago. It is what it is. There are folks on both sides who blame the other, no matter what or no matter how ignorant it makes them look.

Please tell us about the last right-wing, conservative driven, violent protest, rioting or looting of other peoples schit. And no, 8 cowpokes in an empty log cabin don't count.

Thanks. 07-coffee3

If that isn't a preemptive strike, I don't know what is. 03-lmfao

if the shoe fits.....pardon the fungus pun....

you guys are easily on the receiving end....
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