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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
(03-20-2016 10:26 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(03-20-2016 10:16 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(03-20-2016 10:15 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Xavier is done and so are the little guys. Goodbye March Madness. The refs saved the big boys as usual. Dante made the 10th Circle of Hell just for the refs but the conditions are so awful, he didn't dare publish them.

There is still Gonzaga though.

They are a quasi Cinderella.

Quasi will have to do for however long they remain in this tournament.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
Which has a solid chance of lasting yet another round. I wouldn't be surprised if they started as a favorite over Syracuse.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
I keep replaying two plays in my head of the UNI-A&M game.

1) Inbounds to Jesperson. Jesperson trapped. Tries to bounce it off an Aggie. Instead gives them a free layup.

2) Inbounds to Washpun. Washpun trapped in corner. Tries to bounce it off an Aggie. Instead gives them a free layup.

If on either play, the player just blindly lofted it to the other side of the court, does UNI win? Even if it goes out of bounds, it kills time off the clock and Aggies have to inbound from the other side *and* score. If an Aggie catches it, time still goes off the clock and at least UNI can defend.

I just have no idea what Jesperson and Washpun were thinking on those two plays. Those were 4 free points that probably took less than 3 seconds to score.
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NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
(03-20-2016 11:42 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I'll be more than happy if Kansas/Villanova, UNC/Indiana, Duke/OU and Gonzaga make the Final Four, I'll be happy. At a certain point, it's time to call on the big boys.

I'm not that way. I absolutely hate college basketball, believing it a flawed game taken over by primadonna's who are only there because the nba makes them. I want an all mid major final. It's the only way I'll watch the sport regularly again.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
I just get tired of the whining and excuse making from some mid-major fans. I mean, you're really gonna bring up the refs when a team chokes away a 12 point deficit in 30 seconds?

And I still root for the little guy, don't get it twisted (UH is as close to one than not), I really wanted Hawai'i, SFA and UNI to make the Sweet 16 yesterday but I'm also not going to overlook that they all had their chances, especially UNI. Even after the refs apparently gifted A&M a game, they still led in the final minute of the first OT.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
(03-21-2016 01:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  I keep replaying two plays in my head of the UNI-A&M game.

1) Inbounds to Jesperson. Jesperson trapped. Tries to bounce it off an Aggie. Instead gives them a free layup.

2) Inbounds to Washpun. Washpun trapped in corner. Tries to bounce it off an Aggie. Instead gives them a free layup.

If on either play, the player just blindly lofted it to the other side of the court, does UNI win? Even if it goes out of bounds, it kills time off the clock and Aggies have to inbound from the other side *and* score. If an Aggie catches it, time still goes off the clock and at least UNI can defend.

I just have no idea what Jesperson and Washpun were thinking on those two plays. Those were 4 free points that probably took less than 3 seconds to score.

The 2nd one he jumped sideways out of bounds and tried to throw it at a leg and instead made a nice bounce pass to the other side. It was just idiotic. If either one does a high lob to the other end, UNI wins.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
it's amazing how if you look at the Ken Pom projections before the tourney how the left side- the South and West brackets- are all right as projected. The 4 teams that had the greatest chances of making the sweet 16 in both regions all made it.

But on the right side- not so much....
East- only UNC made it. X, WV, and Kentucky all lost
MW- only UVA and Iowa St made it. Mich St and Purdue both lost.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
wow just saw this:
Texas A&M's 12-point comeback is the largest deficit overcome in the final minute to win in college hoops history.
03-21-2016 11:01 AM
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(03-21-2016 11:01 AM)stever20 Wrote:  wow just saw this:
Texas A&M's 12-point comeback is the largest deficit overcome in the final minute to win in college hoops history.

Largest deficit to overcome in the final 31 seconds.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
Duke did comeback against Maryland from 12 down with about a minute to go in 2001.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
A&M/UNI was a perfect storm of epic comeback/epic choke/luck/chance/talent. Unbelievable to see unfold on tv.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
(03-21-2016 01:03 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Duke did comeback against Maryland from 12 down with about a minute to go in 2001.

it was 10 points not 12.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
Maryland lead 89-77 with just over a minute to go. They led 90-80 with over 50 seconds to go before Jay Williams started doing his best Michael Jordan impression.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
it was 10 with a minute to go. So last night was the biggest comeback in the final minute of the game....

of course I think comebacks, I always think of Reggie Miller and what he did to the Knicks that one time.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
You missed the point of what I was saying getting caught up on semantics. You win the argument if you want, sheesh.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
I don't know if I should rescind my projection of Jacobson likely leaving UNI for greener pastures after that kind of breakdown in a game. There's nothing to be disappointed with about this season, but I can't help but think the guy might have found his name off a few schools' lists because of that game.

The smart programs kept him on.

I suspect Jacobson is somehow involved in this TCU-Pitt thing. Be it Dixon's replacement at Pitt or TCU's runner-up.
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(03-21-2016 03:54 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I don't know if I should rescind my projection of Jacobson likely leaving UNI for greener pastures after that kind of breakdown in a game. There's nothing to be disappointed with about this season, but I can't help but think the guy might have found his name off a few schools' lists because of that game.

The smart programs kept him on.

I suspect Jacobson is somehow involved in this TCU-Pitt thing. Be it Dixon's replacement at Pitt or TCU's runner-up.

Well he choked too. He should have used subs to slow it down and "coach" when he didn't have time outs.
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
(03-21-2016 06:03 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  I just get tired of the whining and excuse making from some mid-major fans. I mean, you're really gonna bring up the refs when a team chokes away a 12 point deficit in 30 seconds?

And I still root for the little guy, don't get it twisted (UH is as close to one than not), I really wanted Hawai'i, SFA and UNI to make the Sweet 16 yesterday but I'm also not going to overlook that they all had their chances, especially UNI. Even after the refs apparently gifted A&M a game, they still led in the final minute of the first OT.

My problem is with the whole principle that the only at large teams selected for this field now are from Major Conferences these days. Teams like Valpraiso, who honestly deserved to be in this field over schools like Michigan and others were left out because they didn't come from a power league.

Then you throw in the game itself, where you run across guys like LSU's star player who didn't even bother attending class this year because he knows he's NBA bound. You have traveling calls virtually ignored in favor of scoring, and players allowed to get away with attempted murder on the inside, but not allowed to touch a player on the outside.

The game is flawed. The tournament is flawed. It's designed so that a major conference team wins it every year, and matchups are meant to be intriguing now rather than by seed, see Indiana/Kentucky and the potential of A&M/Texas
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RE: NCAA tourney Thread- Sun 3/20- rd 2
Valpo didn't get in because they lost not in the finals but in the semifinals of their own below average conference tournament. Add in the other conference tournament action pushing them out and there you go. Same with Monmouth, though they lost in the finals.

As for the rest, if you have such an issue, just stop watching altogether. Heck, I don't know why I watch sometimes (I didn't start watching much until January this season), the quality of play is often atrotious and for the most part, you no longer know the names year-to-year. I think college football and basketball would be far better if they adopted a semi-pro model and quit with the illusion that above a certain level it's amatuer sports.

Finally, the major conferences don't have to keep competing in the NCAA Tournament, it could be much worse as they could start their own NIT-esque private tournament like the CFP or expand the CBI or Vegas 16 or something. As the saying goes, don't bite the hand that feeds you and be happy with what you have.
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