BuccTiger
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 02:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: (03-23-2016 02:27 PM)BuccTiger Wrote: If it's not that hard, most of us are in the wrong profession.
Rephrased - not that hard for a coach to put together a roster at Memphis that goes to the tournament given the resources, talent and support.
Then, I figure the coach should max out his salary to whatever a manager of a Denny's makes. 50, 000?
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ncrdbl1
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
New entry in asinine comment of the year comment. Sunbelt had two teams with RPIs lower than 100. Every conference loss except UALR and LA Monroe were bad losses for teams. 17th ranked conference compared to 8th for AAC. Would not make NCAA based on resume if not conference tournament win.
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aTxTIGER
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
That assumes Dedric and Avery come back. If they dont.........
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bluebacker
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 01:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:20 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:18 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-23-2016 12:49 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: So expect a NASCAR "Mama" thread instead of "Dada" ?
That was Mimi with 1000 'daddy quitter boy' posts. Racecar joined in later.
Mimi trashed a player? No way
It's ok when he does it because it's in response to others bashing the coach.
Snicker
Your Snicker is good but short of elite. This is your second average Snicker in a row. If you are banned then I will not oppose it but the level of vitriol directed at you is over the top and if you are not banned I will not oppose that decision either since we all know that I've said this from the start and my position has been clearly stated except for daddy quitter boy who should even now be banned.
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Unionman76
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
No restrooms, just sitting in a big arena with few Memphis fans
No names, but the jest was varying unexplained playing time
Most fans could not figure out his substituation patterns either
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03-23-2016 03:42 PM |
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HoopDreams
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 02:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
New entry in asinine comment of the year comment. Sunbelt had two teams with RPIs lower than 100. Every conference loss except UALR and LA Monroe were bad losses for teams. 17th ranked conference compared to 8th for AAC. Would not make NCAA based on resume if not conference tournament win.
It's all relative - Beard doesn't have a roster of top 100 players and a Mickey D AA either.
The main point was that anything is possible, especially given the talent that could be on the roster. And even if the roster is lighter than expected, the other point was that the player market in the late period is alive.
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RekeHavoc
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 02:55 PM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:20 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:18 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote: That was Mimi with 1000 'daddy quitter boy' posts. Racecar joined in later.
Mimi trashed a player? No way
It's ok when he does it because it's in response to others bashing the coach.
Snicker
Your Snicker is good but short of elite. This is your second average Snicker in a row. If you are banned then I will not oppose it but the level of vitriol directed at you is over the top and if you are not banned I will not oppose that decision either since we all know that I've said this from the start and my position has been clearly stated except for daddy quitter boy who should even now be banned.
I sense you are seeking an internet high-five.
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MemphisCanes
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
If we couldn't get to the dance this season with the roster we had, why is the "expectation" to get to the dance next season with essentially the same roster minus three of the four best plays and while replacing them with no one of import?
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03-23-2016 04:21 PM |
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RekeHavoc
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 02:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: (03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
New entry in asinine comment of the year comment. Sunbelt had two teams with RPIs lower than 100. Every conference loss except UALR and LA Monroe were bad losses for teams. 17th ranked conference compared to 8th for AAC. Would not make NCAA based on resume if not conference tournament win.
Yet, they were able to make the NCAAt and beat a ranked team. So maybe they were deserving?
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HoopDreams
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 04:21 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
If we couldn't get to the dance this season with the roster we had, why is the "expectation" to get to the dance next season with essentially the same roster minus three of the four best plays and while replacing them with no one of import?
Because expectations aren't founded on coaching ability, but rather the roster versus the schedule.
The expectation, based on what the talent level COULD be, should be NCAAs...again.
If the roster pans out, I fully expect Josh to drive another sports car in the ditch though.
(This post was last modified: 03-23-2016 04:25 PM by HoopDreams.)
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 04:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: (03-23-2016 04:21 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
If we couldn't get to the dance this season with the roster we had, why is the "expectation" to get to the dance next season with essentially the same roster minus three of the four best plays and while replacing them with no one of import?
Because expectations aren't founded on coaching ability, but rather the roster versus the schedule.
The expectation, based on what the talent level COULD be, should be NCAAs...again.
If the roster pans out, I fully expect Josh to drive another sports car in the ditch though.
... but mine are.
But You're saying, in a vacuum with the HC removed, this is an NCAA roster?
Depends I think. It's probably not a top 3 roster in the AAC next season, so is the AAC expected to be a 3+ bid conference next year?
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HoopDreams
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RE: Best case scenario BB roster - NCAA tournament SHOULD be expected
(03-23-2016 04:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-23-2016 04:25 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: (03-23-2016 04:21 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-23-2016 11:39 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: Best case is returning 8 top 100-150 rated HS players, all with significant DI experience, one being a former Mickey D AA, while adding the Illinois HS POY and a starter on a JC team that advanced to the NJCAA Elite 8.
Nick Marshall
Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Markel Crawford
Craig Randall
Avery Woodson
Sam Craft
Jeremiah Martin
Jimario Rivers
Charlie Moore
Worst case scenario:
Even with the loss of Dedric and/or others, Goodman has announced three grad transfers in the last 48 hours alone, so the market for DI players with experience will be viable AND a UNLV commit has already back out because of the coaching uncertainty (with 30+ open jobs, probably some more late HS kids available).
Chris Beard walked into UALR, added 10 new players, won 30 games, the SunBelt regular season and conference tournament titles, and won an NCAA game.
It's not that hard.
If we couldn't get to the dance this season with the roster we had, why is the "expectation" to get to the dance next season with essentially the same roster minus three of the four best plays and while replacing them with no one of import?
Because expectations aren't founded on coaching ability, but rather the roster versus the schedule.
The expectation, based on what the talent level COULD be, should be NCAAs...again.
If the roster pans out, I fully expect Josh to drive another sports car in the ditch though.
... but mine are.
But You're saying, in a vacuum with the HC removed, this is an NCAA roster?
Depends I think. It's probably not a top 3 roster in the AAC next season, so is the AAC expected to be a 3+ bid conference next year?
I'm saying it SHOULD be...with proper player development.
Like I said - if everything worked out - you'd be returning a nucleus of 8 guys with DI experience - 5 of them ranked in the top 100 coming out of HS, one of them a Mickey D AA, plus adding the Illinois HS POY and a JC F who started on an NJCAA tournament Elite 8 team.
In theory - that's a good bit of talent, especially if you were to ADD to that with a few late grad trans/JCs/decommits from other schools, etc.
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