(03-18-2016 11:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  There are only so many possibilities:

1- Our AD and President are incompetents who do not understand that a) Josh can't coach and b) Keeping Josh is more expensive than paying him not to coach.

2- Our AD and President are trying to wreck the University's athletic department.

3- the is an outside force that necessitates keeping an incompetent coach for a bigger gain later.

I vote for #3. If you consider that our basketball program is ALREADY losing revenues of $3,400,000 (season ticket sales and seat licenses have decreased this much in recent years). The future gain that they must be anticipating must be HUGE!

I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Man you are showing you can't read.

Keeping Pastner is more expensive than firing him , the $10,600,000 looks bad, but losing 20 or $30 million over 4 years is a lot worse than paying your man crush $10,600,000 now, Unless you believe that Pastner has already damaged the program so much that the university cannot get those fans back

The big donor money and the university's money are two different pots of money. If the university loses money it doesn't make the donors lose money. Only hiring a new coach makes the big donors lose more money. So, come on now help the big donors out and fire up that checkbook.

Tom Bowen and the President are NOT the problem. I have 100% faith that the administration is working hard to the best of their ability to get us into the Big 12. Do not forget where this administration has taken us to in football and where we came from. From new construction on campus to hiring the right football coach, the administration has overall done an excellent job in my opinion. Of course the Josh contract is the only thing that stands out, which is unfortunate.

(03-18-2016 11:12 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  There are only so many possibilities:

1- Our AD and President are incompetents who do not understand that a) Josh can't coach and b) Keeping Josh is more expensive than paying him not to coach.

2- Our AD and President are trying to wreck the University's athletic department.

3- the is an outside force that necessitates keeping an incompetent coach for a bigger gain later.

I vote for #3. If you consider that our basketball program is ALREADY losing revenues of $3,400,000 (season ticket sales and seat licenses have decreased this much in recent years). The future gain that they must be anticipating must be HUGE!

I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Quit worrying about writing checks and have my mich ultra in the cooler on April 29

I figured you for a Mad Dog 2020 guy.

I'll take anything at this point. I need to be wasted to read your posts

(03-18-2016 11:35 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:12 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  There are only so many possibilities:

1- Our AD and President are incompetents who do not understand that a) Josh can't coach and b) Keeping Josh is more expensive than paying him not to coach.

2- Our AD and President are trying to wreck the University's athletic department.

3- the is an outside force that necessitates keeping an incompetent coach for a bigger gain later.

I vote for #3. If you consider that our basketball program is ALREADY losing revenues of $3,400,000 (season ticket sales and seat licenses have decreased this much in recent years). The future gain that they must be anticipating must be HUGE!

I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Quit worrying about writing checks and have my mich ultra in the cooler on April 29

I figured you for a Mad Dog 2020 guy.

I'll take anything at this point. I need to be wasted to read your posts

A liver is a terrible thing to waste.

(03-18-2016 12:08 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:35 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:12 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Quit worrying about writing checks and have my mich ultra in the cooler on April 29

I figured you for a Mad Dog 2020 guy.

I'll take anything at this point. I need to be wasted to read your posts

A liver is a terrible thing to waste.

You holdin? It don't have to be alcohol

(03-18-2016 12:09 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 12:08 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:35 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:12 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:07 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Quit worrying about writing checks and have my mich ultra in the cooler on April 29

I figured you for a Mad Dog 2020 guy.

I'll take anything at this point. I need to be wasted to read your posts

A liver is a terrible thing to waste.

You holdin? It don't have to be alcohol

No, sorry man, I'm not.

(03-18-2016 11:17 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  There are only so many possibilities:

1- Our AD and President are incompetents who do not understand that a) Josh can't coach and b) Keeping Josh is more expensive than paying him not to coach.

2- Our AD and President are trying to wreck the University's athletic department.

3- the is an outside force that necessitates keeping an incompetent coach for a bigger gain later.

I vote for #3. If you consider that our basketball program is ALREADY losing revenues of $3,400,000 (season ticket sales and seat licenses have decreased this much in recent years). The future gain that they must be anticipating must be HUGE!

I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Man you are showing you can't read.

Keeping Pastner is more expensive than firing him , the $10,600,000 looks bad, but losing 20 or $30 million over 4 years is a lot worse than paying your man crush $10,600,000 now, Unless you believe that Pastner has already damaged the program so much that the university cannot get those fans back

The big donor money and the university's money are two different pots of money. If the university loses money it doesn't make the donors lose money. Only hiring a new coach makes the big donors lose more money. So, come on now help the big donors out and fire up that checkbook.

Great post.

(03-18-2016 12:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:17 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 11:01 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:25 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  There are only so many possibilities:

1- Our AD and President are incompetents who do not understand that a) Josh can't coach and b) Keeping Josh is more expensive than paying him not to coach.

2- Our AD and President are trying to wreck the University's athletic department.

3- the is an outside force that necessitates keeping an incompetent coach for a bigger gain later.

I vote for #3. If you consider that our basketball program is ALREADY losing revenues of $3,400,000 (season ticket sales and seat licenses have decreased this much in recent years). The future gain that they must be anticipating must be HUGE!

I hope your check to Pay off Pastner is already in the mail to the athletic department at the University.

Man you are showing you can't read.

Keeping Pastner is more expensive than firing him , the $10,600,000 looks bad, but losing 20 or $30 million over 4 years is a lot worse than paying your man crush $10,600,000 now, Unless you believe that Pastner has already damaged the program so much that the university cannot get those fans back

The big donor money and the university's money are two different pots of money. If the university loses money it doesn't make the donors lose money. Only hiring a new coach makes the big donors lose more money. So, come on now help the big donors out and fire up that checkbook.

Great post.

What if all the ambassadors but TWO want to fire him doe?

Think about it

When it comes to the health and wellbeing of the basketball program, there is nothing remotely good about Pastner remaining the head basketball coach here. Nothing.

(03-18-2016 11:13 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:56 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:43 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:40 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 10:36 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  5. 10 million dollar cost and billionaire egos

Lock thread

You don't buy the ruse that an inept, "nice guy" basketball coach is the key to a bigger picture/payoff for the University of Memphis?

BM: "let's give him one more year, I think he can turn it around, plu we can just blame Bowen if it gets worse"

BL: "I agree he's a nice guy"

MR: "you guys are nuts, I'm done"

AG: "Memphis still has a basketball team?"


BOOM

I don't know who those initials belong to, but I will say this:

I ASSume that you are saying that BL and BM support Josh. If they do, then they are assuring Rudd and Bowen that keeping Josh will benefit us in the long run a lot more than the damage that Josh has done and surely will do next year.

Josh is a loose cannon at this point, he has turned on the fanbase and school (and students) and he KNOWS that he will face zero consequences due to is insane contract.

Then it's a pure ruse.

Zero chance a basketball coach sways a power conference.

Zero.

What about an inept Athletic Dept.? You don't think the B12 has noticed that our school has crafted a contract that has hand-cuffed our bell-cow program.

This is the same AD, Athletic dept., and boosters that run our football program. Definitely cause for some concern. The sport of basketball may not impact expansion, but you better believe the overall health of an Athletic Department does.

Right now, our basketball situation is toxic, and is the most recent reflection of our Athletic Department.

Telling fans who already support the university financially, many of whom for decades, to write the check to buyout JP is ridiculous. None of us had any say in hiring JP or giving him this absurd contract. The people that agreed to the financial implications of the contract bear that responsibility.

(03-18-2016 01:17 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  Telling fans who already support the university financially, many of whom for decades, to write the check to buyout JP is ridiculous. None of us had any say in hiring JP or giving him this absurd contract. The people that agreed to the financial implications of the contract bear that responsibility.

They do bear the responsibility of paying out the contract as written (paying 4 more years of that crap). They do not have to do what you or anyone else want and fund the next coach.

Bowen and Rudd are in a tough spot...piss off a couple of people who fund huge amounts of money or piss off a lot of people who all fund much smaller amounts, but collectively probably fund more. I assume the thought is that the masses will come back whenever the Tigers start winning again. If they retain Pastner, it will be because do not think the whales will come back.

The boosters said no more money, so they are screwed. I don't think it's a matter of competence or genius.

The money was there. It wasn't about the money. IMHO.

It's the proverbial rock and a hard place for the school and boosters.

Now we have all summer and football season to simmer over this and it wont' be pretty when basketball starts.

We must be in the B12 then!

(03-18-2016 04:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  We must be in the B12 then!

I thought about that.

(03-18-2016 04:14 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  The money was there. It wasn't about the money. IMHO.

Correct.

(03-18-2016 05:01 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(03-18-2016 04:14 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  The money was there. It wasn't about the money. IMHO.

Correct.

I'm sure all that will be detailed in the press conference

(03-18-2016 03:45 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  The boosters said no more money, so they are screwed. I don't think it's a matter of competence or genius.

If we cannot raise $2,650,000 to save a GUARANTEED $3,000,000 shortfall then it really does not matter, we are screwed beyond all repair. The fact is that there is something out there making our Admin hesitate to fire a guy who is a guaranteed loser and it won't cost a dime to fire him! (compared to the money you are about to lose) ...

there has to be a mitigating factor that is bigger than the disaster that Pastner has been and will be, there is something that the President and AD are expecting will happen that will make keeping Pastner seem palatable in hind sight... I can't wait to see what it is