(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
I have a feeling Gary Johnson is going to do very well. By very well I mean 5-10%.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
I have a feeling Gary Johnson is going to do very well. By very well I mean 5-10%.
I would vote for him if he weren't so weird. Every time he does that thing with his head he loses 100 votes.
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
The Democrat nominee is Clinton. Superdelegates alone will see to that.
The Libertarian nominee is Gary Johnson. Ventura is a wild cannon and so is McAfee, and Gary Johnson set a popular vote record last year for the LP and stayed on board to help build the party in the interim 4 years.
Your choices are set ladies and gentlemen.
I was on the AnyoneButSanders and AnyoneButTrump teams. Looks like I'll get half of what I wanted.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
I have a feeling Gary Johnson is going to do very well. By very well I mean 5-10%.
Given the appropriate stage and attention, I also believe he'd do very well.
But I still see him posting a 1% type output like 2012. Maybe 2%. No one will vote for him if no one knows about him (aside from political junkies and such). I hope you're right and I'm wrong, though.
People will continue to flock to the Big Two this cycle, if not because they love their candidate, then because they want to stop a candidate.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
In my post on the other thread I listed about 5 issues that Tump is going to kill Hillary on. I forgot to list this one, which Hillary is getting seriously hammered on by Bernie. Hillary takes money from PACS and Wall St. Trump doesnt. Trump will hammer that point to the young voters, because it has been highly effective. Its going to be hard for Hillary to backtrack and start offering free **** when she has been saying that you cant pay for Bernies plan.
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
The Democrat nominee is Clinton. Superdelegates alone will see to that.
The Libertarian nominee is Gary Johnson. Ventura is a wild cannon and so is McAfee, and Gary Johnson set a popular vote record last year for the LP and stayed on board to help build the party in the interim 4 years.
Your choices are set ladies and gentlemen.
Good post. I'm beginning to think that the Cruz folks here are as crazy and unrealistic as the Sanders zealots. He has yet to hit 20 pct of the vote in a swing state that matters in November. They keep thinking that if so-and-so gets out, we'll get his supporters, or her supporters, or his. Well guess what, everytime someone drops out, Trump goes up and Cruz goes down. Unless Rubio enthusiastically puts his support behind Cruz (and I doubt that happens because he's now hoping for a 1-term Trump presidency), Cruz will drop out sometime next month.
Kasich will become Trump's VP. Trump will win Ohio and Florida and become President.
Cruz isn't dropping out unless Trump hits 1237. Cruz has been steadily going up. Trump has been inching up. It would be interesting to see what Cruz did head to head vs. Trump, but its not clear that Kasich will let that happen. He may give Trump his 1237 by letting him win the winner take all states.
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
The Democrat nominee is Clinton. Superdelegates alone will see to that.
The Libertarian nominee is Gary Johnson. Ventura is a wild cannon and so is McAfee, and Gary Johnson set a popular vote record last year for the LP and stayed on board to help build the party in the interim 4 years.
Your choices are set ladies and gentlemen.
I was on the AnyoneButSanders and AnyoneButTrump teams. Looks like I'll get half of what I wanted.
actually, you struck out....sanders won MI and the northwestern OH region won't stop Trump....
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
Even one of the Democrats on CNN said that last night. That those who were discounting Trump were underestimating the uncertainty he brings into everything.
They all discounted Cruz's chances even though he has been beating Hillary in recent polls. They discounted Reagan as well.
The media narrative is that Cruz is some far right wacko, but I don't see it. I have my own reasons for not being enthused about him, but his speeches and debates aren't that extreme. He likes the flat tax, but he'll never get that.
(03-16-2016 08:22 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
I have a feeling Gary Johnson is going to do very well. By very well I mean 5-10%.
Given the appropriate stage and attention, I also believe he'd do very well.
But I still see him posting a 1% type output like 2012. Maybe 2%. No one will vote for him if no one knows about him (aside from political junkies and such). I hope you're right and I'm wrong, though.
People will continue to flock to the Big Two this cycle, if not because they love their candidate, then because they want to stop a candidate.
The #NeverTrump movement is extremely politically engaged and makes up a very large section of traditional republican voters. Most of them are Cruz and Rubio supporters. They will be in play for Johnson. If the GOP establishment mounts a 3rd party run, I think Johnson gets 5%. If they don't, I think Johnson gets 10%.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
The Democrat nominee is Clinton. Superdelegates alone will see to that.
The Libertarian nominee is Gary Johnson. Ventura is a wild cannon and so is McAfee, and Gary Johnson set a popular vote record last year for the LP and stayed on board to help build the party in the interim 4 years.
Your choices are set ladies and gentlemen.
Good post. I'm beginning to think that the Cruz folks here are as crazy and unrealistic as the Sanders zealots. He has yet to hit 20 pct of the vote in a swing state that matters in November. They keep thinking that if so-and-so gets out, we'll get his supporters, or her supporters, or his. Well guess what, everytime someone drops out, Trump goes up and Cruz goes down. Unless Rubio enthusiastically puts his support behind Cruz (and I doubt that happens because he's now hoping for a 1-term Trump presidency), Cruz will drop out sometime next month.
Kasich will become Trump's VP. Trump will win Ohio and Florida and become President.
Cruz isn't dropping out unless Trump hits 1237. Cruz has been steadily going up. Trump has been inching up. It would be interesting to see what Cruz did head to head vs. Trump, but its not clear that Kasich will let that happen. He may give Trump his 1237 by letting him win the winner take all states.
Cruz's last chance is to Arizona and Kasich get out. He'll win Utah resoundingly and if he wins Arizona as well, next Tuesday will negate Trump's Florida win. If Trump wins Arizona, I think he gets to 1237 after Wisconsin and the Yankees vote, especially if Kasich is still hanging around. Not sure if Kasich will draw enough in Arizona to spoil, but he certainly will in Wisconsin, which follows and in the Yankee states.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
They are hard to turn out.
That's not true.
Its easy to turn them out. No shirt, no shoes, no money, no service!
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
(03-15-2016 11:01 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The GOP will commit suicide if it ignores the Trump contingent. It is clear a shift is desired.
I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
(03-16-2016 12:12 AM)ark30inf Wrote: Trump is not the important part. The important part is the 30-40% of the Republican base who have rebelled several times against the globalist/big government elements of the Republican Party and been kicked in the nads each time. Reform Party....Tea Party....Trump voters.
Not only defeated, but castigated and called stupid and racist by their own party.
How many times do they line back up for another kick to the groin?
I don't think it is fair to put all of those in the same category.
The current "Trump vote[]" is coming from a different place. The Tea Party was not blue collared like the Trump contingent.
(03-16-2016 08:22 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: I'm not a fan of Kucinich but he said something interesting on Fox News... the Hillary campaign has to be REALLY worried right now, because he doesn't think the Sanders supporters are going to go to her side, but will jump the aisle to go for Trump.
The blue collar ones would, but not the crazy SJWs.
Millenials in general will not go to Trump. The bigger question is...can they be motivated to turn out without Bernie?
(03-15-2016 10:59 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The GOP nominee will be Trump. He already has a large enough delegate lead to absorb everybody's delegates except Kasich. And it's difficult to see Cruz/Kasich keeping Trump from getting if not 50%+1 of delegates than within a sliver of 50%. And if the GOP really wants to deny the nomination over ~25 or so delegates of difference, you'll see WWIII on the show floor.
The Democrat nominee is Clinton. Superdelegates alone will see to that.
The Libertarian nominee is Gary Johnson. Ventura is a wild cannon and so is McAfee, and Gary Johnson set a popular vote record last year for the LP and stayed on board to help build the party in the interim 4 years.
Your choices are set ladies and gentlemen.
Good post. I'm beginning to think that the Cruz folks here are as crazy and unrealistic as the Sanders zealots. He has yet to hit 20 pct of the vote in a swing state that matters in November. They keep thinking that if so-and-so gets out, we'll get his supporters, or her supporters, or his. Well guess what, everytime someone drops out, Trump goes up and Cruz goes down. Unless Rubio enthusiastically puts his support behind Cruz (and I doubt that happens because he's now hoping for a 1-term Trump presidency), Cruz will drop out sometime next month.
Kasich will become Trump's VP. Trump will win Ohio and Florida and become President.
After last night Trump is going to be the nominee. Cruz is done, has no path forward, he couldn't even win in the south much less in the Northeast and out west.
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