If LSU, La. Tech, La.-Monroe, La.-Lafayette, McNeese State, NW. La. State, Nicholls State, SE Louisiana, Southern U. and Grambling State for football and New Orleans for basketball and other sports might be shut down next season? Who can they be replaced with? C-USA would be down 1 school. SEC will be down 1 school. Sun Belt Conference would be down by 2 schools. Southland could be down by 5 schools and SWAC be down by 2 schools. If these schools are shut down for a whole year or more? There are schools that could jump for a chance as a temp spot at the levels as a higher up levels. They could be there temp, and if they do good at the top levels? They could get a waiver to be an Independent until the Louisiana schools get back to normal business.

LSU could be replaced temporally by Tulane. Tulane used to be a former founder of the SEC. Tulane could use the LSU's football schedule.

Arkansas State could fill in Tulane's spot for a year or two. Arkansas State could assume Tulane's schedule.

Lamar, Central Arkansas and Missouri State could take the schedules of Arkansas State, La-Monroe and La.-Lafayette for a bit.

C-USA could take New Mexico State in to fill the spot of La. Tech and take their schedule.

North Dakota State can be the school to be the Independent to take on New Mexico State's schedule.

West Texas A&M. Arkansas Tech, Central Oklahoma, Missouri Southern, Tarleton State, UAFS (New Orlean), and Texas A&M-Commerce could fill in the Southland schools spots. That is enough schools that could form a new FCS/D1AAA conference.

Sioux Falls could fill in for NDSU for MVFC/Summit. Drury for MVC and Central Missouri for MVFC/Summit. Central Missouri could become the 8th school of the Texas, Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma area at D1.

Tuskegee and Lincoln, Mo. could fill in for the 2 SWAC schools.

Tuskegee could move to the east of the SWAC and Lincoln stays in the west to make it 12 schools SWAC when Grambling and Southern comes back.

The idea is that some of the schools that are temp at their spots could move back to their home conference. Some could stay up as an Independent that could form a new conference like North Dakota State, Idaho, New Mexico State, Lamar, Missouri State and they could get Wichita State, South Dakota State, UTRGV, Northern Iowa, Eastern Washington, Portland State or some others to form a new FBS conference. The schools that are brought up will not have to pay fines or pay any money to move up because of what is going on in Louisiana. SBC would be in dire straights when Monroe and Lafayette could be shut down for more than a year. That would put them down to 8 football, and 10 over all. The conferences at all levels including the NCAAs want to make sure that everything needs to flow smoothly. If plans are not put in place? This coming fall will be chaotic for sports that could extend into 2017 or beyond.

Kentucky is another state we need to keep an eye out as well.

I wouldn't worry about LSU football. They aren't going anywhere.

LSU's fine. The rest may be on the chopping block for virtue of 'not being the tigers'. And even that is extremely doubtful.

Also, no way does C-USA take NMSU in place of La Tech. UTEP doesn't want them. East schools don't want them. The Sun Belt doesn't even want them.

I hear the SEC has already contacted Arkansas Tech to replace LSU.

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  If LSU, La. Tech, La.-Monroe, La.-Lafayette, McNeese State, NW. La. State, Nicholls State, SE Louisiana, Southern U. and Grambling State for football and New Orleans for basketball and other sports might be shut down next season?

The budget deal arrived at during last week's special session essentially precludes the worst-case scenarios of any of those schools being shut down next year.

All will be fielding athletic teams.

C-USA didn't temporarily replace UAB. Even under the worse case scenario of a school not sponsoring sports for a year or two their conference(s) aren't going to call up a school for a temporary basis. Replacements would only be considered for permanent losses of schools. If a conference lost two teams, there may not be any replacement anyways.

(03-15-2016 12:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I wouldn't worry about LSU football. They aren't going anywhere.

They shut all of them down before they touch lsu football. Half of them outa be shut down anyway

(03-15-2016 12:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I wouldn't worry about LSU football. They aren't going anywhere.

If the school shuts down (And it's all or none since you can't pick and choose when it comes to public schools) then the players are ineligible to play so you should worry about LSU football.

Sigh......this was never going to happen.......the sky is falling scenarios have been a part of life in this State since I was born 63 years ago......David St, you need a real hobby buddy.

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  C-USA could take New Mexico State in to fill the spot of La. Tech and take their schedule.

North Dakota State can be the school to be the Independent to take on New Mexico State's schedule.

Your entire post is a fantasy but you have holes logically anyways. New Mexico State is still a member of the Sun Belt until after the 2017 season so you'd have to temporarily replace them too. And you wouldn't have to replace an independent school as they are currently not replaced if one ever is invited to a conference.

(03-15-2016 04:48 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  C-USA could take New Mexico State in to fill the spot of La. Tech and take their schedule.

North Dakota State can be the school to be the Independent to take on New Mexico State's schedule.

Your entire post is a fantasy but you have holes logically anyways. New Mexico State is still a member of the Sun Belt until after the 2017 season so you'd have to temporarily replace them too. And you wouldn't have to replace an independent school as they are currently not replaced if one ever is invited to a conference.

That is for the 2017 season that I am talking About New Mexico State. But, for the issues right now? I think the NCAA, the power 5 and G5 schools need to rethink and re-look about who can be brought up. Lets say that Liberty, Jacksonville State, Eastern Kentucky or others have been brought up as an Independent a few years ago? They could have played in the C-USA temp for UAB. Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky could have challenged Marshall and Western Kentucky the last couple of years in football. C-USA has an image problem right now with very week teams in FAU, FIU, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA and at times Rice, UAB and UTEP.

(03-15-2016 05:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 04:48 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  C-USA could take New Mexico State in to fill the spot of La. Tech and take their schedule.

North Dakota State can be the school to be the Independent to take on New Mexico State's schedule.

Your entire post is a fantasy but you have holes logically anyways. New Mexico State is still a member of the Sun Belt until after the 2017 season so you'd have to temporarily replace them too. And you wouldn't have to replace an independent school as they are currently not replaced if one ever is invited to a conference.

That is for the 2017 season that I am talking About New Mexico State. But, for the issues right now? I think the NCAA, the power 5 and G5 schools need to rethink and re-look about who can be brought up. Lets say that Liberty, Jacksonville State, Eastern Kentucky or others have been brought up as an Independent a few years ago? They could have played in the C-USA temp for UAB. Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky could have challenged Marshall and Western Kentucky the last couple of years in football. C-USA has an image problem right now with very week teams in FAU, FIU, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA and at times Rice, UAB and UTEP.

But the Louisiana schools likely won't have budget problems after 2017. They have the problems now and if they were to shut down the schools now, it doesn't matter what is needed in 2017.

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  If LSU, La. Tech, La.-Monroe, La.-Lafayette, McNeese State, NW. La. State, Nicholls State, SE Louisiana, Southern U. and Grambling State for football and New Orleans for basketball and other sports might be shut down next season? Who can they be replaced with? C-USA would be down 1 school. SEC will be down 1 school. Sun Belt Conference would be down by 2 schools. Southland could be down by 5 schools and SWAC be down by 2 schools. If these schools are shut down for a whole year or more? There are schools that could jump for a chance as a temp spot at the levels as a higher up levels. They could be there temp, and if they do good at the top levels? They could get a waiver to be an Independent until the Louisiana schools get back to normal business.

LSU could be replaced temporally by Tulane. Tulane used to be a former founder of the SEC. Tulane could use the LSU's football schedule.

Arkansas State could fill in Tulane's spot for a year or two. Arkansas State could assume Tulane's schedule.

Lamar, Central Arkansas and Missouri State could take the schedules of Arkansas State, La-Monroe and La.-Lafayette for a bit.

C-USA could take New Mexico State in to fill the spot of La. Tech and take their schedule.

North Dakota State can be the school to be the Independent to take on New Mexico State's schedule.

West Texas A&M. Arkansas Tech, Central Oklahoma, Missouri Southern, Tarleton State, UAFS (New Orlean), and Texas A&M-Commerce could fill in the Southland schools spots. That is enough schools that could form a new FCS/D1AAA conference.

Sioux Falls could fill in for NDSU for MVFC/Summit. Drury for MVC and Central Missouri for MVFC/Summit. Central Missouri could become the 8th school of the Texas, Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma area at D1.

Tuskegee and Lincoln, Mo. could fill in for the 2 SWAC schools.

Tuskegee could move to the east of the SWAC and Lincoln stays in the west to make it 12 schools SWAC when Grambling and Southern comes back.

The idea is that some of the schools that are temp at their spots could move back to their home conference. Some could stay up as an Independent that could form a new conference like North Dakota State, Idaho, New Mexico State, Lamar, Missouri State and they could get Wichita State, South Dakota State, UTRGV, Northern Iowa, Eastern Washington, Portland State or some others to form a new FBS conference. The schools that are brought up will not have to pay fines or pay any money to move up because of what is going on in Louisiana. SBC would be in dire straights when Monroe and Lafayette could be shut down for more than a year. That would put them down to 8 football, and 10 over all. The conferences at all levels including the NCAAs want to make sure that everything needs to flow smoothly. If plans are not put in place? This coming fall will be chaotic for sports that could extend into 2017 or beyond.

Kentucky is another state we need to keep an eye out as well.

"Kentucky is another state we need to keep an eye out"!!!! Hahaha. Cheers!

(03-15-2016 11:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  If ... La. Tech, La.-Monroe, La.-Lafayette, McNeese State, NW. La. State, Nicholls State, SE Louisiana, Southern U. and Grambling State for football and New Orleans for basketball and other sports might be shut down next season? Who can they be replaced with? ... Southland could be down by 5 schools and SWAC be down by 2 schools.

My understanding is that the proposed legislation would not shut down the Louisiana universities. It would restrict travel of sports other than football and basketball. Even though I think the travel restriction legislation has a "snowball's chance in ..." of passing, things might be worked out if it did; particularly with the Southland Conference programs. The CUSA, SBC, and SWAC universities might have a little more of a challenge.

It's a slow day today, so here's one more fantasy of how the Southland and its Louisiana members might work through a solution.

1. FCS / FBS Louisiana programs could work out a "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch your's" type of arrangement for some of the out of conference games. Intra-state play could fill in a lot of the gaps.

2. The SLC could easily be set up for divisional or zone play as the conference has in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if the SLC split into divisions anyway once Abilene Christian and Incarnate Word are fully transitioned. (The Southland might need one more university to take ORU's place to make a 7/7 division split.) With Lamar 30 miles and Stephen F. Austin 52 miles from the Louisiana state line, both are close enough to easily be within the proposed 375 mile limit for the Louisiana universities. In fact, if I measured correctly, all except Abilene Christian, Incarnate Word, and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi would be within the 375 mile limit. Out of zone games and games with universities in the same predicament could help fill out the bulk of the schedule.

For out of divisional play or out of conference, McNeese State (30 miles) and Northwestern State (55 miles) are close enough to the Texas state line that most of the Texas SLC universities would be within the 375 mile limit of numerous possibilities. New Orleans, Nicholls, and Southeastern Louisiana are located near the eastern Louisiana state line which would put several universities to their east within range.

3. A fallback would be to schedule conference members as non-conference games. For example Lamar does not play Abilene Christian or Nicholls in baseball this year and last year. The three scheduled games with each other as non-conference games. (It would have been nice if they counted as conference games because the the Cardinals swept both ACU and Nicholls.

The Sun Belt would delay the execution of NMSU and Idaho if they lost Louisiana and ULM; long term they would look to Eastern Kentucky and possibly another school to get back to at least 10/12, if not 12/12.

C-USA would just stop at 13, but I could see them offering James Madison if Louisiana Tech was forced down or out forever; if the West Division poops on James Madison, I would expect Texas State, Missouri State, and Wichita State to all get a strong look. Of course it would make sense for Texas State, Arkansas State, South Alabama, and Troy to swap conferences with Charlotte, Old Dominion, Marshall, FAU, and FIU, but that will never happen.


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What would we do without LaTech, U-La-La, or ULM??? I don't think I could survive!

Ain't nobody touching LSU no how. Probably ditto with Grambling (HBCU already at FCS). But as for the rest...meh!

(04-09-2016 08:09 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  O.
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What would we do without LaTech, U-La-La, or ULM??? I don't think I could survive!

Ain't nobody touching LSU no how. Probably ditto with Grambling (HBCU already at FCS). But as for the rest...meh!

Yeah well....whatever

Is there any FCS conference that a Louisiana school participates in where adding Murray State for only football as a replacement would make sense, with the Racers moving their other sports to the Horizon League? Belmont has the option of joining in 2018 and it looks like Murray State is the most likely travel partner who would actually join.