I browse other teams message boards (Kansas, UNC, UK, WVU, UL, X, IU, etc.) from time to time. One similar attitude I have found is that everyone always thinks they are getting screwed, and someone (NCAA, conference, refs, committee, media, ESPN, etc.) has it out for them. It is also interesting to see that no matter the level of success, there is always some level of b*tching, even in places like Kansas. In fact those fan bases seem to even be worse than others. Not really sure what my point is, but these are just observations.

It's a lot easier to blame everyone else. Makes you feel better too.

Message boards are for venting and discussion, but mostly venting.

I for one, prefer the discussion.

One thing fans will never tell you is that their team has been lucky. If you are a fan of a team that wins a lot of close games, you are going to think your coach is great in late and close situations and that your players really execute. If calls go your way late in the game, you'll likely point out bad calls earlier in the game that went against you even though those don't have nearly effect on the outcome of a game as a late call would. However, when you lose a bunch, most generally realize that luck plays a pretty big role in close games (although the angry ones will complain a lot).

This year has been pretty epic from a UC standpoint because they have lost 5 games by 2 points, another by 4, and 2 games in overtime where the opponent hit a 60+ foot buzzer beater. UC's poor offense has certainly been to blame at times, but we have an elite defense and in close games that we lost this year, the opponent often scored incredibly efficiently in crunch time going against said defense, often making difficult shots.

It is what it is.

(03-14-2016 11:14 PM)Overrated Wrote:  One thing fans will never tell you is that their team has been lucky.

We've got valid reasons for never saying that though.

Cincinnati might be one of the most unlucky sports towns ever.

On that, I'm sure we can all agree

At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

(03-14-2016 10:16 PM)jarr Wrote:  I browse other teams message boards (Kansas, UNC, UK, WVU, UL, X, IU, etc.) from time to time. One similar attitude I have found is that everyone always thinks they are getting screwed, and someone (NCAA, conference, refs, committee, media, ESPN, etc.) has it out for them. It is also interesting to see that no matter the level of success, there is always some level of b*tching, even in places like Kansas. In fact those fan bases seem to even be worse than others. Not really sure what my point is, but these are just observations.

This is a good post. I often read on our boards that certain people think our fans are the only ones to act a certain way but truth be told we are just like other fan bases. In fact in a lot of respects other fan bases are worse.

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

(03-15-2016 06:28 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 10:16 PM)jarr Wrote:  I browse other teams message boards (Kansas, UNC, UK, WVU, UL, X, IU, etc.) from time to time. One similar attitude I have found is that everyone always thinks they are getting screwed, and someone (NCAA, conference, refs, committee, media, ESPN, etc.) has it out for them. It is also interesting to see that no matter the level of success, there is always some level of b*tching, even in places like Kansas. In fact those fan bases seem to even be worse than others. Not really sure what my point is, but these are just observations.

This is a good post. I often read on our boards that certain people think our fans are the only ones to act a certain way but truth be told we are just like other fan bases. In fact in a lot of respects other fan bases are worse.

I know you used to read the Pitt boards. That fanbase is the worst. They're probably still complaining that Shady McCoy would've scored had the fans not started throwing oranges onto the field.

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

How is something 100 miles away considered local?

(03-15-2016 07:30 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:27 PM)payday Wrote:  At least I had the Big Red Machine era.

Well, locally, within the last 4 decades, we have had:

The Big Red Machine
The 1990 Reds Miracle
Bengals 2 trips to the Super Bowl

Let's not forget the Cyclones

OSU success in FB

For Local MBB there has been quite a lot of winning on the court if you count (again, your loyalties will determine which of these schools you pull for):

UL
UK
UC
OSU
UD
XU

So the area is far from a sports wasteland as far as success is concerned.

OSU, UK and Louisville are over 100 miles away. Those schools are not local. I can tell you having lived in Columbus nobody up there considers Cincinnati area sports local (they are mostly Browns/Indians fans up there anyway).

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

A ******* men. Us millenials just haven't gotten a fair shake in this world.

(03-15-2016 08:50 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

A ******* men. Us millenials just haven't gotten a fair shake in this world.

Absolutely x 1000

I am lucky enough to have seen Oscar play in a UC uniform. I saw the UC program go to 5 consecutive final fours, winning two (and it really should have been three). Then after Jucker left, it kinda went down until Huggins came and made the program feared among college basketball. After him, it was sh!t until Mick's third or fourth season and I think that we are in good hands now.

I wish I could say the same for Football. We stumbled along for years winning games we should not have and losing games we should not have until Rick Minter at least put us on kind of a level playing field with what we had. Dantonio is the architect of what became the excellent teams of Dantonio/Kelly, then Butch screwed up his first season, but turned it around. Tuberville has been a joke, what the Army people used to call ROAD (Retired On Active Duty). This program will not rise again until he is gone.

WBB was in good hands with Laurie Pirtle, but the administration attempted to place all blame on her for internal problems and got rid of her, bringing in losers of both genders. Not sure this will ever recover.

I have been rooting for UC since 1958 (I was 12 then) and I wish nothing but the best for them. I guess that is why I react so harshly for the drive-by shootings of our younger folks who just don't seem to know any better and expect world class teams and world beaters each and every season, and if that doesn't happen, just sh!t on the coaches and players heads.

OSU success?? Oxymoron

(03-15-2016 09:11 AM)ctipton Wrote:  I am lucky enough to have seen Oscar play in a UC uniform. I saw the UC program go to 5 consecutive final fours, winning two (and it really should have been three). Then after Jucker left, it kinda went down until Huggins came and made the program feared among college basketball. After him, it was sh!t until Mick's third or fourth season and I think that we are in good hands now.

I wish I could say the same for Football. We stumbled along for years winning games we should not have and losing games we should not have until Rick Minter at least put us on kind of a level playing field with what we had. Dantonio is the architect of what became the excellent teams of Dantonio/Kelly, then Butch screwed up his first season, but turned it around. Tuberville has been a joke, what the Army people used to call ROAD (Retired On Active Duty). This program will not rise again until he is gone.

WBB was in good hands with Laurie Pirtle, but the administration attempted to place all blame on her for internal problems and got rid of her, bringing in losers of both genders. Not sure this will ever recover.

I have been rooting for UC since 1958 (I was 12 then) and I wish nothing but the best for them. I guess that is why I react so harshly for the drive-by shootings of our younger folks who just don't seem to know any better and expect world class teams and world beaters each and every season, and if that doesn't happen, just sh!t on the coaches and players heads.

Did you even read my post? That's my point you saw Oscar Robertson. The Big Red machine. The Bengals at least going to super bowls. We have seen nothing anywhere close to that and you don't understand why we get fairly annoyed? You make up dumb crap like we want to see, "world class teams and world beaters each and every season". No one here is saying that. But yeah I'd like to see it ONCE because I never have. Is it really that difficult to understand?

I am old enough to remember the Big Red Machine, UC in the 90s, Bengals in the Super Bowl, etc.
My kids, born in 89 and 92, haven't seen anything but pain as Cincinnati fans. Heck even the Shootouts that they remember, UC lost more than they won and then there's Kenyon and this year the fumble that heard round the world. Cursed.

I just want them to have one dream season as Cincinnatians. That's not too much to ask.
I don't care if it's UC, Reds, Bengals. Just one great season to hold on to forever like I do with the Big Red Machine.

One season, when a team from the city that they know and love wins it all, and the city raises it's head high, pounds it's chest and looks down on the others as the champ.

And no if XU wins it all (God forbid) would not cut it because I don't care that they have the skyline on the floor of their gym...they will NEVER represent the city of Cincinnati. Aside from their alums...no one cares.

(03-15-2016 07:50 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:26 PM)payday Wrote:  On that, I'm sure we can all agree

This is the worst part of being a 30 year old Cincy sports fan. I have ZERO memories of watching my team win big. When I try to think of the most positive moments in my lifetime that I've actually gotten to witness, my mind immediately goes to Jay Bruce's walk to CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT, not win the World Series or even any playoff game, just to clinch the chance to go to the playoffs. For UC basketball I guess dominating Conference USA was fun but it never lasted long in the tourney. UC football's greatest accomplishments are also appearances rather than wins. And the well, the Bengals are the Bengals.

I guess the Sweet Sixteen is my best moment as a fan, which is pretty sad.

I think you're underselling just how spectacular UC making back to back BCS games and going undefeated in the regular season was. I'm not sure even a Bengals Super Bowl will feel as amazing as that UC / Pitt game in 2009. Perspective matters and UC isn't/wasn't a National Power. Bengals winning a Super Bowl would be 1 of 32 relatively equal teams. The Bearcats going from 3-8 type seasons and decades of middling football to 1 second from playing for a National Championship is just magical. Those two seasons just stand out to me. Fans of a program like OSU / Michigan just can't know what a season like that is like for a program like UC if you have been invested in that program for a long time.