And that UC could not make the tourney. So what is it? I hear that Cronin sucks or that his players and recruiting are bad. It can't be both, either the players are great and Mick sucks or that or Mick is an over achiever. 6 consecutive NCAA bids.

How can a program make this many consecutive tourneys with a bad coach who does not recruit or develop players? Any thoughts?

There's one great way for Mick to shut people up. Make a run.

(03-13-2016 10:45 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  There's one great way for Mick to shut people up. Make a run.

Can you answer my questions?

Mick is not a bad coach. Not even close. Are there flaws? Of course there are. The American is a better basketball conference than people give it credit for. Certainly
Not a top 3 or 4 conference but it is very solid.

Mick is in his low 40's and should be UC's coach for some time.

6 in a row is not an easy accomplishment, congrats to Mick and the bearcats. This could be that year they run wild through the tourney field.

(03-13-2016 10:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  And that UC could not make the tourney. So what is it? I hear that Cronin sucks or that his players and recruiting are bad. It can't be both, either the players are great and Mick sucks or that or Mick is an over achiever. 6 consecutive NCAA bids.

How can a program make this many consecutive tourneys with a bad coach who does not recruit or develop players? Any thoughts?

The facts speak for themselves - Mick's a very good coach who recruits well and develops players. Mick & co. continues to win 20+ games/year, make the tournament and run a clean program (vs SMU and UofL).

It's just that some fans have grown accustomed to making the tournament and want more. I don't blame them - I want to see UC make it past the first weekend in the tournament, too - this may be that year. Being invited gives them a chance. At least we're not NIT-bound O$U.

(03-13-2016 10:45 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  There's one great way for Mick to shut people up. Make a run.

Nah, if people were interested in results changing their minds, this wouldn't still be a conversation.

The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

x2....so we have the same seed as last year and the only difference is cronin coaching and sanders is gone. we should have been much better than last year.

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

x3

In Cronin's tenure as head coach for UC, has UC ever been the higher seed (lower numbered seed) in the second round game?

I am surprised that Memphis did not even make the NIT.

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

x4

(03-14-2016 07:20 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

x3

In Cronin's tenure as head coach for UC, has UC ever been the higher seed (lower numbered seed) in the second round game?

What a bizarre question. Cronin sucks because our rd2 opponents didn't get upset in rd1. Some of you guys are reaching

Saw Dan Hoard on Twitter say the last time UC faced the lower seed in round two was 2001. We haven't gotten much luck with being the beneficiary of upsets. Obviously not going to happen when you're in the 7-10 range though.

(03-14-2016 08:05 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 07:20 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

x3

In Cronin's tenure as head coach for UC, has UC ever been the higher seed (lower numbered seed) in the second round game?

What a bizarre question. Cronin sucks because our rd2 opponents didn't get upset in rd1. Some of you guys are reaching

I think his point was uc spent 14 years getting 1-3 seeds regularly and we haven't gotten back to that level.

(03-14-2016 08:17 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Saw Dan Hoard on Twitter say the last time UC faced the lower seed in round two was 2001. We haven't gotten much luck with being the beneficiary of upsets. Obviously not going to happen when you're in the 7-10 range though.

Unless you're xavier

(03-14-2016 08:18 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 08:17 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Saw Dan Hoard on Twitter say the last time UC faced the lower seed in round two was 2001. We haven't gotten much luck with being the beneficiary of upsets. Obviously not going to happen when you're in the 7-10 range though.

Unless you're xavier

Tell me about it. I think Wisconsin could give XU fits, but I fully expect Wisconsin to get upset in the 1st round. Still don't know how they got a 2 seed as they seemed like more of a 3 seed to me.

(03-14-2016 07:01 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  The head coach of Cincinnati is expected to do better than just getting a NCAA bid.

Exactly. ONE Sweet 16 and ONE Conference Championship in 10 years is the part I have a problem with.

I suspect the Committee valued:

UC close loses 3 by 2 points, 3 in OT

UC had only 1 close win of 3 over USF

UC had only three games where it was badly beat XU by 10, Temple by 7 and UH by 13

So with a little luck or made shot instead of 22-10 UC could have been easily 25-7 or better.

(03-13-2016 10:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  And that UC could not make the tourney. So what is it? I hear that Cronin sucks or that his players and recruiting are bad. It can't be both, either the players are great and Mick sucks or that or Mick is an over achiever. 6 consecutive NCAA bids.

How can a program make this many consecutive tourneys with a bad coach who does not recruit or develop players? Any thoughts?

You thought Cronin sucked when you wanted him fired after the Butler game. Then again after Xavier and Iowa State.